Player Watch Player Watch: Ryan Sessegnon

[scat1620]

But in the league you won't get away with having an inferior squad, not now when there's virtually nothing to choose between the elite level coaches. Let's be honest, we got 4th because of United and Arsenal's incompetency.

Agree with all of your post, but especially this last bit. In the League, we have unarguably regressed for two seasons on the bounce* and despite this year's fantastic and hugely enjoyable CL run (which I will happily admit is the most fun I've ever had watching Spurs), I feel that that regression in the league has been in line with what my eyes are telling me watching us each week... that the quality we are showing on the pitch has been getting progressively worse for the last 2 seasons.

I feel that that deterioration in our performances is much more due to player recruitment and retention than it is to any mis-steps Pochettino has made in managing the squad and preparing the team on matchdays. Selling Kyle Walker in the summer of 2017 and then the disastrous lack of activity in the 3x transfer windows prior to this summer being the main lowlights. If we want to reverse this decline then even standing still in key areas of the squad during this transfer window (e.g. if we, say, sold Eriksen and only brought in Lo Celso as a replacement, rather than Lo Celso plus one additional creative midfielder) won't turn our fortunes around IMO, and we'll leave ourselves at risk of undoing much of our own hard work over recent years.

I'm still far from convinced that the club have both the will and the ability to deliver on that will in making the playing staff improvements that I think are vital this summer, and I'm hoping rather than expecting the club will surprise me for the better during the next 3 weeks. Would love them to prove me wrong.

*finished 2nd in 2016/17; then 3rd in 2017/18; and 4th in 2018/19

 

[Sweech]

It's very rare you see a complete squad if at all, but you'd certainly say their squads are more 'complete' than ours at the moment and that's why they finished so many points above us. City have pretty much done what they need to now, bar a centre half. Liverpool you can say the same of once they get a back up left back.

Ultimately last season we crumbled under the weight of multiple competitions once we suffered a couple of injuries that were made more likely because of our negligence. Our league form fell off a cliff during the Champions League run.

Anything can happen in one off cup games, even over 2 legs as we saw against City. But in the league you won't get away with having an inferior squad, not now when there's virtually nothing to choose between the elite level coaches. Let's be honest, we got 4th because of United and Arsenal's incompetency.

Absolutely I agree with just about everything you’ve said.

I just think it’s ridiculous to suggest there’s squads out there that can’t be improved on and we’re in some sort of unique position where we feel that we need more players to improve key areas.

People should know this isn’t a static sport. Variance happens on large scales for very unpredictable reasons. Everyone thinks teams like Liverpool and City will just keep on keeping on but history tells us shit happens and those teams will dip down in form and others will rise.

 

[y1dk1d]

Pure revisionism, rose was quality before poch got to spurs. You were just wrong.

There’s no way you can say Rose was “quality” in that 13-14 season. Almost everyone was poor that season and Danny was one of the worse

 

[yido_number1]

There’s no way you can say Rose was “quality” in that 13-14 season. Almost everyone was poor that season and Danny was one of the worse

Poch has massively improved him. Watching him running back half arsed and giving the ball away made him one of my most hated players. He's now arguably my favourite player at the club. Be a shame to see him go but I'd wish him well and understand it.

 

[paulcumpstone]

Sorry but rose improved most the season he was on loan at Sunderland. Was awful before he went defensively, that game time was invaluable to him to iron out his issues

 

[DJS]

I’m pretty Rose looked to be on his way out when Poch came in and we signed Davies, with many expecting him to be first choice.

Rose then improved massively.

He was first choice season before Poch having come back from Sunderland but didn’t have the greatest season with us and remember lots of people on here criticising him (shocker! ????).

 

[Fidget]

Why would we want revolution?

‘We all want to change the world’

 

[Fidget]

Ok so we sign lo celso and sessegnon. That would be what £170m spent? You must have realised we'd need to sell some? Depending on what we get we may buy more.

Ndombele and Lo Celso were not dependent upon selling.

 

[Hakkz]

Ndombele and Lo Celso were not dependent upon selling.

Supposedly.

 

[Lilbaz]

Ndombele and Lo Celso were not dependent upon selling.

And sessegnon i said.

Eriksen leaving might not have been needed. But we would have to sell some players.

 

[Yid-ol]

And sessegnon i said.

Eriksen leaving might not have been needed. But we would have to sell some players.

Trippier, Rose, Janssen & Nkoudou would give us a decent chunk of Lo Celso if not his full amount or sessegnon and some of Lo Celso... Just depends if anyone comes in for the ones not sold yet.

 

[Lilbaz]

Trippier, Rose, Janssen & Nkoudou would give us a decent chunk of Lo Celso if not his full amount or sessegnon and some of Lo Celso... Just depends if anyone comes in for the ones not sold yet.

Edwards, onomah and ccv aswell.

 

[yido_number1]

Edwards, onomah and ccv aswell.

There's definitely some money in that lot. You'd think Onomah, Edwards and CCV would be at least 8m each. Maybe more if home grown value comes through.

 

[Lilbaz]

There's definitely some money in that lot. You'd think Onomah, Edwards and CCV would be at least 8m each. Maybe more if home grown value comes through.

Ccv i think could get quite a bit. Still only 21. Done well where ever he's been on loan, hg and a full international. I'd be asking for £15m.

 

[KirstyG]

There's definitely some money in that lot. You'd think Onomah, Edwards and CCV would be at least 8m each. Maybe more if home grown value comes through.

There was some ITK about it not just being about the fee but about the wages etc so peripheral players may still have been on fairly decent contracts. Every peripheral figure out the door enables a greater ability to afford the larger salaries.

 

[Timberwolf]

There's definitely some money in that lot. You'd think Onomah, Edwards and CCV would be at least 8m each. Maybe more if home grown value comes through.

Think 8 would be pushing it. None of them have been brilliant on loan - I think we'd be looking more like 3-5 for Edwards and Onomah. No idea about CCV.

 

[Gollorius]

Think 8 would be pushing it. None of them have been brilliant on loan - I think we'd be looking more like 3-5 for Edwards and Onomah. No idea about CCV.

I'm pretty sure I read that Onomah was going to Germany for £10m just yesterday...

 

[Timberwolf]

I'm pretty sure I read that Onomah was going to Germany for £10m just yesterday...

Really?? I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Fidget]

And sessegnon i said.

Eriksen leaving might not have been needed. But we would have to sell some players.

you quoted a ‘spend’ figure. £150m.
how did you arrive at that figure without counting Lo Celso?

 

[Lilbaz]

you quoted a ‘spend’ figure. £150m.
how did you arrive at that figure without counting Lo Celso?

I did count lo celso and sess and got about £170m.