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H-SF

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Just received an update....

Club still confident the deal can be salvaged. Porro pushing to come and is not happy.

????????
Porro might not be happy but is he actually doing anything tangible to push the deal through. He probably has to release a public statement and refuse to play/train for Sporting in order for them to stop being difficult. I doubt we’re gonna buckle and just pay the extra they now want.
 

Yid-ol

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Jan 16, 2006
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yup haha.

Jan 1 - DL - 45m euros? Lets wait them out and get a better deal
Jan 30 - Pays 48m euros

:ROFLMAO:

45 million in one probably means no other signings this window (including the loan deal) 48 spread over 5 years means more options to buy this window.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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45 million in one probably means no other signings this window (including the loan deal) 48 spread over 5 years means more options to buy this window.
What other deals?

we had one loan deal fall in our lap when the player did not want Everton.
 

tommyt

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Levy Time
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DiVaio

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yup haha.

Jan 1 - DL - 45m euros? Lets wait them out and get a better deal
Jan 30 - Pays 48m euros

:ROFLMAO:
I mean yeah, it's much better deal

With taxes in case for Porro that would be close to 60m that must be paid in one installment
 

Trotter

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1. If we were able/willing to pay the release clause it would have been done by now.
2. It could be Sporting trying to out-Levy, Levy.
3. Will wait for some ITK, but Ornstein wouldn’t publish this without substance.
4. Fuck
Just being willing to pay the release clause does not mean they have to sell, even if player wants to leave.
Still have to agree the payment terms of the release clause with the club.

if we want to pay it in 4 stage payments for example (not unusual at all in transfers) and they want it all now that could be sticking point, and really is their only leverage Sporting would have.
 

Mediocrates

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We could have activated the release clause on day 1 according to all reports BUT that would have involved paying all of the money upfront which virtually no club ever does so we have been trying for workarounds where they still got a good fee and we get out player.

We finally had seemingly come to an agreement on a suitable workaround which was going to get Sporting the same (or probably slightly more) than the release clause but not involve us directly paying in one go this month (thus the talks of structuring the deal etc...). Sporting have at the last minute changed that though.

So in a way, what you say is true... but it misses out on a lot of context of how transfers work and how this deal has been going. Doesn't excuse us of all the blame (there's likely a whole lot more we could have done) but we have gone about it in a way that up until the last minute was seemingly working.
I understand that with regards to amortising fees. However, getting to a point of brinkmanship whereby the card you thought you had as a reference point has expired, with no time for a plan b, is fucking useless from the club.

Had we offered 45 million staggered in January the 1st, there’s a good chance that offer gets accepted I’d have thought. It gives sporting the entire month to replace the player, it’s showing respect to the value of the player, it’s not above market rate. This is with the reference of a release clause. I can’t fathom how we didn’t know that had an expiry date. It beggars belief. They are right to squeeze more out of Spurs. It’s shambolic.
 

13VanDerBale13

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Safe to say anyone expecting further signings (along with this), can dampen their expectations now ?

If only all transfers were as simple as DJ ?
 

Wig

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So to be clear, we could have activated a release clause of €45 million on January 1. Now, if this does indeed go through, it will be for more than that amount due to our not knowing it expired 12 days before the transfer window shuts? Meanwhile the player has missed a month of playing in the single biggest problem position at spurs. If true, that is absolutely pathetic. Again.
You pay the release clause and you need to stump up all the money up front in one go. From what I understand from reading the various reports throughout January, the terms Spurs want are to pay an agreed amount in instalments. That can either be through a direct agreement with Sporting "We'll pay you a couple million more if you let us pay in instalments" or with 3rd party financing.

It's massively frustrating all this farting around till the deadline, but if there are fixed budgets we have available then whether we have to pay all the cash now or spread out the payments will have a critical impact on what cash we have left to do other deals (Zaniolo for example).
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Just being willing to pay the release clause does not mean they have to sell, even if player wants to leave.
Still have to agree the payment terms of the release clause with the club.

if we want to pay it in 4 stage payments for example (not unusual at all in transfers) and they want it all now that could be sticking point, and really is their only leverage Sporting would have.
“Willing to pay the release clause” means exactly that. If you are looking for an installment plan, you are not “willing to pay the release clause.”
 

panoma

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No one even knows if Levy is negotiating on this but please carrying on your rage for the sake of it.
Rage? At best maybe slightly annoyed.

The post I was responding to was about Levy's general way of doing business, not blaming him for this particular deal.

Please carrying on riding that high horse.
 
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Yid-ol

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Always the other club isnt it.

How about we get to the table a little earlier. Like December....

Can you tell me when we did start? Too many guess work and assuming on what's happening in transfers.

We didn't want to pay the 45 million in one go so been looking to come to some agreement. They seem to keep increasing the price, even after it's reportedly agreed.
 
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