Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

[Strikeb4ck]

I really like this guy, great attitude as well, seen some interviews with him. Would be delighted if we signed him, though not sure what it means for Yedlin/Fredericks. Ings and Trippier have always been the standout players for Burnley when I've watched.

 

[prawnsandwich]

There is one very troubling stat about Trippier though. He misplaced 663 passes this season. That’s over 200 more than ANYONE else in the entire Premier League.
http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2015...urs-closing-in-on-signing-of-kieran-trippier/

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

There is one very troubling stat about Trippier though. He misplaced 663 passes this season. That’s over 200 more than ANYONE else in the entire Premier League.
http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2015...urs-closing-in-on-signing-of-kieran-trippier/

That is worrying. Although I'm sure our new scouting and recruitment team have done their due diligence on him. So I will have to trust them on this one.

 

[Setzthree]

another worrying stat:

Flest bolltapp (rensningar borträknade):
1113 – Kieran Trippier, Burnley
768 – Alexis Sanchez, Arsenal
745 – Ahmed Elmohamady, Hull

the amount of times the player lost the ball (clearances not included)

 

[Lenny Leonard]

another worrying stat:

Flest bolltapp (rensningar borträknade):
1113 – Kieran Trippier, Burnley
768 – Alexis Sanchez, Arsenal
745 – Ahmed Elmohamady, Hull

the amount of times the player lost the ball (clearances not included)

Glad we steered clear of Sanchez too...

 

[dondo]

There is one very troubling stat about Trippier though. He misplaced 663 passes this season. That’s over 200 more than ANYONE else in the entire Premier League.
http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2015...urs-closing-in-on-signing-of-kieran-trippier/

I would imagine that because he was hitting a lot of deep crosses into the box and playing longer balls, also the reason why he has a lot of assists

 

[1882andallthat]

Yedlin needs a loan move to a PL club to really test his mettle and see if he's up to the standards we need him to be.

Trippier would be an excellent signing. I also think he'd provide Walker with a similar kick up the arse to what Rose got when we signed Davies.

Agree, send him to Bournemouth on loan

 

[Strikeb4ck]

There is one very troubling stat about Trippier though. He misplaced 663 passes this season. That’s over 200 more than ANYONE else in the entire Premier League.
http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2015...urs-closing-in-on-signing-of-kieran-trippier/

I play fantasy football where crosses count and I know for a fact that Trippier leads the league by absolute miles in crosses attempted, I think he has over 600 on the season. Everyone of those crosses first touched by a defender will go down as a misplaced pass, and crosses aren't supposed to be overly accurate all the time anyways, so that should explain that stat...one of the problems with analytics and stuff in football.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

Yeah the most creative players always have crap pass completion rates, as they try difficult balls that often get cut out or overhit. Only takes one to get through though........

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Yeah the most creative players always have crap pass completion rates, as they try difficult balls that often get cut out or overhit. Only takes one to get through though........

Exactly this. I dont want to start a whole other debate but people SLATE Lamela for his 'idiotic' passing when it goes to nobody, then praise him when it works out like his incredible pass against Hull to assist Chadli's goal. He's trying it all the time. At least he has the bollocks to try, and not just play it safe.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

Exactly this. I dont want to start a whole other debate but people SLATE Lamela for his 'idiotic' passing when it goes to nobody, then praise him when it works out like his incredible pass against Hull to assist Chadli's goal. He's trying it all the time. At least he has the bollocks to try, and not just play it safe.

Lamela tries the difficult and downright insane. Sometimes he looks like a chump. Sometimes he scores a half-volley Robana from outside the box. I think there was more of a balance to be found with him and I think he's getting there.

 

[amardilo]

There is one very troubling stat about Trippier though. He misplaced 663 passes this season. That’s over 200 more than ANYONE else in the entire Premier League.
http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2015...urs-closing-in-on-signing-of-kieran-trippier/

Lamela tries the difficult and downright insane. Sometimes he looks like a chump. Sometimes he scores a half-volley Robana from outside the box. I think there was more of a balance to be found with him and I think he's getting there.

I am glad Lamela at least tries. But good thing for him is he is young and hopefully will eventually be able to have better judgement so we will eventually see more great passes finding fellow Spurs players and less of the wayward stuff.

But I think Trippier is slightly different as crosses probably count as passes and he does a lot of them so these might not always find a team mate and Burnley play a lot of long balls (not see a lot of Burnley but when I have I recall seeing a lot of them) so if he is instructed to do this it will also add to the amount of misplaced passes.
Spurs are not that big into long balls from the back (since Dawson has gone) and play more short passes so if he did sign for us I would expect his pass completion to improve a lot (unless he is totally useless at passing in which case I doubt we would be looking to sign him).

 

[spurs9]

I play fantasy football where crosses count and I know for a fact that Trippier leads the league by absolute miles in crosses attempted, I think he has over 600 on the season. Everyone of those crosses first touched by a defender will go down as a misplaced pass, and crosses aren't supposed to be overly accurate all the time anyways, so that should explain that stat...one of the problems with analytics and stuff in football.

According to who scored, Trippier has 91 accurate crosses and 250 inaccurate (44%), 805 accurate short passes and 304 inaccurate short passes (63%) and 217 accurate Long passes and 358 inaccurate long passes (61%).

vs

Walker - 5 accurate crosses and 31 inaccurate (16%), 568 accurate short passes and 99 inaccurate short passes (83%) and 36 accurate Long passes and 52 inaccurate long passes (69%).

Dier - 9 accurate crosses and 31 inaccurate (29%), 509 accurate short passes and 117 inaccurate short passes (78%) and 37 accurate Long passes and 44 inaccurate long passes (84%).

Edit: Just to add to this, Baines is the full back with the 2nd highest amount of crosses at 47 (almost half of the amount) with a 35% accuracy. Also wanted to add Clyne's stats in as he seems to be a favorite among some.

Clyne - 17 accurate crosses and 95 inaccurate (18%), 1078 accurate short passes and 195 inaccurate short passes (82%) and 73 accurate Long passes and 122 inaccurate long passes (60%).

 

[Strikeb4ck]

According to who scored, Trippier has 91 accurate crosses and 250 inaccurate (44%), 805 accurate short passes and 304 inaccurate short passes (63%) and 217 accurate Long passes and 358 inaccurate long passes (61%).

vs

Walker - 5 accurate crosses and 31 inaccurate (16%), 568 accurate short passes and 99 inaccurate short passes (83%) and 36 accurate Long passes and 52 inaccurate long passes (69%).

Dier - 9 accurate crosses and 31 inaccurate (29%), 509 accurate short passes and 117 inaccurate short passes (78%) and 37 accurate Long passes and 44 inaccurate long passes (84%).

Edit: Just to add to this, Baines is the full back with the 2nd highest amount of crosses at 47 (almost half of the amount) with a 35% accuracy. Also wanted to add Clyne's stats in as he seems to be a favorite among some.

Clyne - 17 accurate crosses and 95 inaccurate (18%), 1078 accurate short passes and 195 inaccurate short passes (82%) and 73 accurate Long passes and 122 inaccurate long passes (60%).

Again though, bit of a stupid stat, and just another example of how football is unique as far as sports and analytics are concerned.

Say he plays in a super threatening cross low on the ground and Vokes and Ings both slide in to tap it in, both barely miss the ball. That goes down as an inaccurate cross.
If he plays in a hopeful ball that slowly lofts its way to the back post and Barnes can only head it softly across goal or at the keeper (aka the play is dead and there was never much going to come from it), that goes down as a successful cross.

You'd much rather want the first.

 

[spurs9]

Again though, bit of a stupid stat, and just another example of how football is unique as far as sports and analytics are concerned.

Say he plays in a super threatening cross low on the ground and Vokes and Ings both slide in to tap it in, both barely miss the ball. That goes down as an inaccurate cross.
If he plays in a hopeful ball that slowly lofts its way to the back post and Barnes can only head it softly across goal or at the keeper (aka the play is dead and there was never much going to come from it), that goes down as a successful cross.

You'd much rather want the first.

His crossing isn't the problem though (look at the stats, they are good), it's his 63% success rate for short passes. I know that these stats also aren't perfect, as there are circumstances it can't account for, but he is unlikely to be closed down quicker or given less space playing for Burnley than he would playing for us.

BTW, I'm not against this him as a signing (not for it either), I can see the positives, I'm just worried about the potential negatives displayed in those stats.

 

[Strikeb4ck]

His crossing isn't the problem though (look at the stats, they are good), it's his 63% success rate for short passes. I know that these stats also aren't perfect, as there are circumstances it can't account for, but he is unlikely to be closed down quicker or given less space playing for Burnley than he would playing for us.

BTW, I'm not against this him as a signing (not for it either), I can see the positives, I'm just worried about the potential negatives displayed in those stats.

I can see where you're coming from, I just personally don't believe much in stats for players...things like xG for teams as a whole I buy into, but every single pass a player hits is circumstantial and that can't be accounted for in stats.

 

[yankspurs]

I play fantasy football where crosses count and I know for a fact that Trippier leads the league by absolute miles in crosses attempted, I think he has over 600 on the season. Everyone of those crosses first touched by a defender will go down as a misplaced pass, and crosses aren't supposed to be overly accurate all the time anyways, so that should explain that stat...one of the problems with analytics and stuff in football.

Guy won me $100 once in draftkings on like a 25 point game. Proceeded to blow that all on the NFL contests the following day though...Bottom line is Trippier would definitely add to the attack. And is a good defender. Walker would have to tremendously up his game to keep his spot if Trippier signs.

 

[rawhide]

According to who scored, Trippier has 91 accurate crosses and 250 inaccurate (44%), 805 accurate short passes and 304 inaccurate short passes (63%) and 217 accurate Long passes and 358 inaccurate long passes (61%).

His crossing isn't the problem though (look at the stats, they are good), it's his 63% success rate for short passes. I know that these stats also aren't perfect, as there are circumstances it can't account for, but he is unlikely to be closed down quicker or given less space playing for Burnley than he would playing for us.

BTW, I'm not against this him as a signing (not for it either), I can see the positives, I'm just worried about the potential negatives displayed in those stats.

Trippiers percentages are wrong. They should be 27%, 73% and 38% based on those figures.

 

[jobdone]

His crossing isn't the problem though (look at the stats, they are good), it's his 63% success rate for short passes.
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To be fair, that's a thing you can work on pretty easily. His willingness to throw in a ball, and decent accuracy with it are exciting parts. You can work on a negative like poor short passes.

 

[teok]

Apparently he takes loads of throw ins:

"Throw-ins certainly rank among the least interesting stats, so we'll have to win you around with this one but let's give it a go. It's common for any full-back to get through plenty in a season but one man that will need to rest those shoulders far more than any other is Burnley's Kieran Trippier. The right-back took a whopping 565 throw-ins last over the course of the season, which was 133 more than any other player. To give that some context, the gap between Joel Ward in second place and Erik Pieters in 15th was also 133."