Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

[Japhet]

The difference between Trippier and the other players mentioned who play shit passes is that if Trippier plays a bad pass because of his position there's going to be an opportunity for the attacking team to isolate our cb's who will be on the backfoot. I think at times he lacks the awareness of potential danger (United in F.A cup semi final, playing a pass to Dembele who was being pressed and had nobody to pass to) but also he has a few times now played the pass across the middle nonchalantly without getting his head up for example last night and against Wolves. He needs to take more care of the ball and be more aware of what danger is around him.

It's the timing of the poor pass that's so devastating. When we are comfortably in possession the whole team gets on the front foot. Davies, Toby and Vertonghen were all moving forwards when Trippier gave the ball away and as a result were all caught on the wrong foot and had little chance of getting back. Pogba's pass was an absolute gem, but the lax pass from Trippier was, not for the first time, unforgivable under the circumstances. I've seen way too much of him in a back 4 to want to see any more. Back 3 or nothing for me.

 

[yankspurs]

How many times did that happen to other players? Sissoko does it all the time. I think because of who he is, because he's SC's current fashionable scapegoat and because people are looking for it, every tiny thing is highlighted and pounced upon in the usual way with whichever poor sod who's turn it is to be the **** of choice. Evidence of shitness can be found in every player if people really want to.

He's reached Sissoko levels of derision and ridicule. And look how that turned out. So I'm pretty confident that once again, a lot of people who couldn't tell a footballer from a shitstick and are going well over the top with the criticism (I'm not suggesting that's you). I'm not saying he's perfect, excellent or we couldn't get better or indeed there aren't sometimes reasons to criticise it's the nature of it that doesn't sit well with me.

It's like a pack of starving animals have just been thrown a sausage. If something can even vaguely be seen as an error, it will be. Hugo is another for whom the standards are perfection or else. I guess he's scapegoat in waiting. We'll always have one I suppose

So apologies for quoting your post, it was the bobbling away bit that caught my eye, pretty much every player gives the ball away. Dembele for example, routinely (OK not routinely but I've seen it a few times) plays a square ball to the feet of an opposing player yet he's not a scapegoat so he gets away with it. There's a can of worms opened, right there

Well Sissoko didnt ship away goal after goal and didnt single handedly cost us games repeatedly. But yep, Trippier’s the new scapegoat

Sorry A&C, he’s just shit. Plain and simple.

 

[Shanks]

Well Sissoko didnt ship away goal after goal and didnt single handedly cost us games repeatedly. But yep, Trippier’s the new scapegoat

Sorry A&C, he’s just shit. Plain and simple.

He didn’t single handedly cost us the game.

It’s a team game, he made a bad pass that led to the goal, which is unfortunate. A bad pass in an otherwise reasonable performance.

Where are we talking about Kane and Alli’s finishing, which whilst a great goalkeeping performance the majority of saves made were right down the middle that most keepers should save.
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[Archibald&Crooks]

Well Sissoko didnt ship away goal after goal and didnt single handedly cost us games repeatedly. But yep, Trippier’s the new scapegoat

Sorry A&C, he’s just shit. Plain and simple.

haha

I rest my case

 

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

i don't know why everything has to always be so black and white and why we feel we need to have a player in the team to 'dislike'

Can't we look at things objectively?

Trippier imho is better in a back 5
He has a great cross on him and is decent at set pieces.
Struggles at times with the defensive side of his game and can be targeted when playing in a back four.
Errors will always be highlighted as he plays further up the pitch and any mistake he makes leaves us vulnerable to the counter attack.

Serge has a great engine on him, is better when he has had a run of games
better defensively than Trippier although can be rash when it comes to tackling
Stronger than either trips of KWP
More likely to surge into the box than trips and try to take players on but his crossing lacks composure and that can be frustrating when wasting good opportunities.

KWP
Plays with a smile on his face and I love the sheer joy he has playing for Spurs. Would love him to become our first choice right back in the future.
Has a good engine on him. He has a decent footballing brain and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Could see him developing as TA has at Pool when given a run in the team.
Some inexperience with positioning and likely to make a few mistakes as he develops.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

i don't know why everything has to always be so black and white and why we feel we need to have a player in the team to 'dislike'

Can't we look at things objectively?

Trippier imho is better in a back 5
He has a great cross on him and is decent at set pieces.
Struggles at times with the defensive side of his game and can be targeted when playing in a back four.
Errors will always be highlighted as he plays further up the pitch and any mistake he makes leaves us vulnerable to the counter attack.

Serge has a great engine on him, is better when he has had a run of games
better defensively than Trippier although can be rash when it comes to tackling
Stronger than either trips of KWP
More likely to surge into the box than trips and try to take players on but his crossing lacks composure and that can be frustrating when wasting good opportunities.

KWP
Plays with a smile on his face and I love the sheer joy he has playing for Spurs. Would love him to become our first choice right back in the future.
Has a good engine on him. He has a decent footballing brain and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Could see him developing as TA has at Pool when given a run in the team.
Some inexperience with positioning and likely to make a few mistakes as he develops.

Really good summary...

Explains why I hate Trippier

Just kidding, thanks for trying to bring some balance to SC, don't expect it to last long !

 

[Nebby]

i don't know why everything has to always be so black and white and why we feel we need to have a player in the team to 'dislike'

Can't we look at things objectively?

Trippier imho is better in a back 5
He has a great cross on him and is decent at set pieces.
Struggles at times with the defensive side of his game and can be targeted when playing in a back four.
Errors will always be highlighted as he plays further up the pitch and any mistake he makes leaves us vulnerable to the counter attack.

Serge has a great engine on him, is better when he has had a run of games
better defensively than Trippier although can be rash when it comes to tackling
Stronger than either trips of KWP
More likely to surge into the box than trips and try to take players on but his crossing lacks composure and that can be frustrating when wasting good opportunities.

KWP
Plays with a smile on his face and I love the sheer joy he has playing for Spurs. Would love him to become our first choice right back in the future.
Has a good engine on him. He has a decent footballing brain and is comfortable with the ball at his feet. Could see him developing as TA has at Pool when given a run in the team.
Some inexperience with positioning and likely to make a few mistakes as he develops.

"Plays with a smile on his face and I love the sheer joy he has playing for Spurs." isn't really being objective.

 

[spoon]

Back 3 or 4, it does not matter, in big games he has problems with his concentration. And yesterday it cost us a goal again.

 

[dontcallme]

"Plays with a smile on his face and I love the sheer joy he has playing for Spurs." isn't really being objective.

Why?

I love seeing Son play because he does so with so much joy.

 

[Tucker]

How many times did that happen to other players? Sissoko does it all the time. I think because of who he is, because he's SC's current fashionable scapegoat and because people are looking for it, every tiny thing is highlighted and pounced upon in the usual way with whichever poor sod who's turn it is to be the **** of choice. Evidence of shitness can be found in every player if people really want to.

He's reached Sissoko levels of derision and ridicule. And look how that turned out. So I'm pretty confident that once again, a lot of people who couldn't tell a footballer from a shitstick and are going well over the top with the criticism (I'm not suggesting that's you). I'm not saying he's perfect, excellent or we couldn't get better or indeed there aren't sometimes reasons to criticise it's the nature of it that doesn't sit well with me.

It's like a pack of starving animals have just been thrown a sausage. If something can even vaguely be seen as an error, it will be. Hugo is another for whom the standards are perfection or else. I guess he's scapegoat in waiting. We'll always have one I suppose

So apologies for quoting your post, it was the bobbling away bit that caught my eye, pretty much every player gives the ball away. Dembele for example, routinely (OK not routinely but I've seen it a few times) plays a square ball to the feet of an opposing player yet he's not a scapegoat so he gets away with it. There's a can of worms opened, right there

Spot on, giving away sloppy balls that lead to goals or scoring opportunities seems to be a problem for the whole team. It’s a symptom of playing a high line, if we give a silly ball away we’ll more often than not have a scramble to stop the other team from scoring. Dembele has done this for us loads of times, as has Dier, and even Eriksen.

Trippier’s pass yesterday was inexcusable, but he’s by far not the only one in the team that does this on a regular basis.

 

[Lou3000]

I actually think Trippier is a fine defender one-on-one when we're deep and in our shape. He's really exposed when he's playing up front and our center backs are playing a high line because he just doesn't have the pace to get back or track runners.

But let's forgive him of his defensive shortcomings, and address Trippier's perceived "strength." On his day, playing his best, he has an absolutely wicked cross. But a cross is such a pitifully low-percentage chance, and it's not like our other option in Aurier CAN'T cross. Given our attacking options, would your first choice be to throw away possession at a chance for Kane to get on the end of it or would you rather let Eriksen, Dele, Son, and Kane play possession football and create chances? I know which one I'd rather watch.

Did you cringe every time Winks fired a shot into the top tier at Wembley yesterday? How is that any different than another feckless cross sent into the United box?

So when he makes mistakes, it isn't that I'm jumping on him to scapegoat him, it's that even when he's performing at his best, it's just not good enough. It's not the way I want to see Spurs play. We might as well sign Fellaini if we're going to send 10-15 cross into the box.

 

[dtxspurs]

haha

I rest my case

Is he shit? No probably not.

But he's not good enough to start games in a back 4 against top 6 opposition and high level champions league opponents.

His mistakes have cost us points against Liverpool, City & ManU this year. How differently would we be feeling about our season/team if we had tied Liverpool, City & beat and tied ManU.. Trippier directly caused a goal in each of those games where we lost by 1.

I honestly don't see how this can be argued.

 

[Paolo10]

Let's apportion all the blame on one player that suits you the best to make your shitty point.

Don't think Poch sees it that way thankfully.

 

[dtxspurs]

Let's apportion all the blame on one player that suits you the best to make your shitty point.

Don't think Poch sees it that way thankfully.

Please help me understand how Trippier didn't directly cause the goal in each of those games... that ended up losing us the games.

 

[Paolo10]

3 own goals was it?

 

[thelak]

Back 3 or 4, it does not matter, in big games he has problems with his concentration. And yesterday it cost us a goal again.

He has regular lapses of concentration - in big games the opposition are of a higher standard and just more likely to punish us

In a back 3 there is likely someone to cover for him and he can play to his strengths and get further up the pitch

Ultimately Tripps for all his attacking qualities has never been good enough and isn’t enough of an athlete to be a starting rb for a genuinely elite team but has always been perfect for what we originally bought him for - as a regularly playing but generally no 2 rb

 

[dontcallme]

Trippier has some massive strengths and is nowhere near as bad as many are making out here.

What frustrates me is mistakes like the pass against Utd are something you expect by a younger player or at least under a lot of pressure. Just a needless pass to make.

 

[ClintEastwould]

Trippier has some massive strengths and is nowhere near as bad as many are making out here.

What frustrates me is mistakes like the pass against Utd are something you expect by a younger player or at least under a lot of pressure. Just a needless pass to make.

I can forgive him just being kinda shit at defending in general but he’s somehow seeped in absolute mind numbing mistakes this season that he never did before. It’s hard not to come to the conclusion that the hypes gone to his head. He was a very good but not great player until the World Cup where he suddenly was set upon a Beckham esque pedestal.

 

[Spurs72]

Trippier is a good RB this is true and is a better RWB when we play 5 back Because to me in a 5 he gets up the pitch and his crosses come into play.

But lets be honest, Trippier is not blessed with Pace and he always, always is primed to make a mistake, This is not a bash Trips post, I just think if we aspire to be a great Club, then we can't have a so so RB as our 1st Choice RB.

 

[Lou3000]

Trippier is a good RB this is true and is a better RWB when we play 5 back Because to me in a 5 he gets up the pitch and his crosses come into play.

But lets be honest, Trippier is not blessed with Pace and he always, always is primed to make a mistake, This is not a bash Trips post, I just think if we aspire to be a great Club, then we can't have a so so RB as our 1st Choice RB.

This is what's so surprising to me. Gareth Southgate gets it, but Poch doesn't. Obviously, Poch thinks that Trippier can be an RB in a back 4 because one of our CMs drops to help (rather than having a 3rd CB to cover), but that CM is supposed to move up in attack and leaves us shockingly unprepared for the counter attack.