Player Watch: Ivan Perisic

[djhotspur]

Bye bye. Was looking good. Wonder if he’s accepted to move on without being paid out the rest of his contract as he’s on massive money

 

[Dave1882]

I just don't see the benefit of a loan to us really
Nothing against Perisic, i thought he was really good squad player at the start of this season.
But loaning him means we've maxed out our loan quota. Realisitically Split aren't gonna cover more than 10-20k of his 200k a week.
If he wants to go and they want him and theres a chance he can play regular football once fit, pre-euros. Surely he needs to accept the pay hit and we agree to release him. Understand that by giving him the contract we're bound by it, but if he wants out, then has to be an acceptance of pay hit form him too

 

[AdamYoung]

Ali Gold did a piece yesterday that suggested we had a fair bit of wriggle room to go with loans out.

 

[Viking78]

I just don't see the benefit of a loan to us really
Nothing against Perisic, i thought he was really good squad player at the start of this season.
But loaning him means we've maxed out our loan quota. Realisitically Split aren't gonna cover more than 10-20k of his 200k a week.
If he wants to go and they want him and theres a chance he can play regular football once fit, pre-euros. Surely he needs to accept the pay hit and we agree to release him. Understand that by giving him the contract we're bound by it, but if he wants out, then has to be an acceptance of pay hit form him too

I guess it works in our favour to some degree as its one less player for physios to treat so they can focus on other players . Plus if Split pay some contribution to wages it all helps.

 

[felmani26]

Yes a real shame we didn't see Perisic flourish under Ange and would have been a real weapon of choice coming off the bench in games you feel.

Another big earner off the wage bill though as the revolution of the playing staff picks up pace.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Another big earner off the wage bill though as the revolution of the playing staff picks up pace.

Not if we let go on loan it isn't. No way Hadjuk are taking on his current wages.

 

[felmani26]

Not if we let go on loan it isn't. No way Hadjuk are taking on his current wages.

Was more an overall look heading into next season whereby he will be out of contract anyway.

Agreed, they won't be committing to nigh on £200k p/w that's for sure!

 

[vegassd]

If Hadjuk can pay even a portion then that is handy. Depending on his contract, he might be on a lower wage anyway whilst injured right? And don't most clubs use insurance company to cover wages whilst players are injured as well?

On top of that, Perisic might agree to a lower wage slice anyway if we are happy to let him head back to Croatia at this point. Or be more amenable to taking a reasonable pay off. Perisic seems like a pretty smart guy and an experienced pro, so I'm sure there are plenty of avenues to explore.

 

[he is you know!]

Was more an overall look heading into next season whereby he will be out of contract anyway.

Agreed, they won't be committing to nigh on £200k p/w that's for sure!

I may be incorrect but a long time ago when his wages were mentioned as being over £150kpw Herc said that they were nowhere near that figure.

That may have been because we gave him lump sum though instead of inflated wages.

 

[mil1lion]

If it keeps a spot open for a possible late move on a midfielder it makes sense. Also it's about the player and it sounds like he wants this move. He can already speak to clubs with 6 months left anyway and he isn't going to play for us again.

 

[joey.leone]

Like others have said, it's a shame that his spell with us has ended like this. However his contributions could prove vital come the end of the season, he was instrumental in the comeback against Sheffield United. Enjoy your homecoming Ivan.

 

[luRRka]

 

[yido-1989]

If he had stayed for I reckon he would have been a big asset for us this season. Real shame he got injured.

Yes I agree. He changed the game when he was coming on as a substitute. Especially when we found it hard to break down teams, him and Udogie linking up well down the left.

 

[JoaoPereira]

does anyone know for sure what is the maximum amount of players out on loan? read somewhere that it is 7 this season but that can't be right because that would surpass the limit: Rodon, Ndombele, Dier, Reguilon, Spence, Tanganga, Phillips, Devine.

guess the question is guided towards assessing how doable is a loan back for Nusa.

 

[carmeldevil]

does anyone know for sure what is the maximum amount of players on loan? read somewhere that it is 7 this season but that can't be right because that would surpass the limit: Rodon, Ndombele, Dier, Reguilon, Spence, Tanganga, Phillips, Devine.

guess the question is guided towards assessing how doable is a loan back for Nusa.

From Gold:


So where do Spurs sit within the loan rules that tripped them up a year ago when Matt Doherty ended up needing to have his contract cancelled at the last moment rather than the loan move to Atletico Madrid that he expected?

In 2022, FIFA approved changes to the loan rules in order to limit such moves and prevent clubs from stockpiling talented players. The changes meant that in the 2022/23 season clubs would be limited to eight international loan signings in and eight loaned out from next season.

That number dropped this season to seven and from next season (2024/25) onwards it will be six. Homegrown players and those under the age of 21 will remain exempt from the regulations. Spurs only have four international loans out currently in the shape of Spence, Tanguy Ndombele, Eric Dier and Troy Parrott, but the Republic of Ireland international technically falls within UEFA's U21 list as he was born after January 1, 2002 so would likely not count this season.

The new rules also introduced a minimum duration of a loan deal - between two transfer windows - and the maximum duration of one year, bringing to an end 18-month loan deals which Spurs have utilised in the past. A club may only have a maximum of three professionals loaned out to a single club and three loaned in from a single club.

There is currently no limit on domestic loans out, other than the number of players a Premier League club can bring in on loan from other Premier League sides, which is is four but no more than one from a single Premier League club. The Football League limit is five loan players in a matchday squad so for Spurs there are no restrictions on how many players they could send out domestically to various clubs other than if that club had already too many for those limits just mentioned.

FIFA announced back in 2022 that national associations would be given three years from July 1 that year "to implement, in agreement with domestic football stakeholders, rules on a domestic loan system which are in line with the principles of integrity of competitions, youth development, and the prevention of hoarding players. The limitation on the number of loans at national level may differ from the FIFA rules as long as it is consistent with these principles".

So for now with three international loans out of players over 21 and seven domestic loans out, Spurs are within the rules and have scope for further loan moves amid a frantic January of temporary transfers.

 

[Lancaster Spur]

does anyone know for sure what is the maximum amount of players on loan? read somewhere that it is 7 this season but that can't be right because that would surpass the limit: Rodon, Ndombele, Dier, Reguilon, Spence, Tanganga, Phillips, Devine.

guess the question is guided towards assessing how doable is a loan back for Nusa.

Total is 7 out in foreign loans, domestic loans count towards a different total so we have some room for manoeuvre still.

 

[yido-1989]

I guess it works in our favour to some degree as its one less player for physios to treat so they can focus on other players . Plus if Split pay some contribution to wages it all helps.

Should be a 50/50 split

 

[JoaoPereira]

Total is 7 out in foreign loans, domestic loans count towards a different total so we have some room for manoeuvre still.

okay, we're good then. still pretty lenient, thought it would be a more aggressive change to disrupt talent gobblers.

 

[luRRka]

From Gold:


So where do Spurs sit within the loan rules that tripped them up a year ago when Matt Doherty ended up needing to have his contract cancelled at the last moment rather than the loan move to Atletico Madrid that he expected?

In 2022, FIFA approved changes to the loan rules in order to limit such moves and prevent clubs from stockpiling talented players. The changes meant that in the 2022/23 season clubs would be limited to eight international loan signings in and eight loaned out from next season.

That number dropped this season to seven and from next season (2024/25) onwards it will be six. Homegrown players and those under the age of 21 will remain exempt from the regulations. Spurs only have four international loans out currently in the shape of Spence, Tanguy Ndombele, Eric Dier and Troy Parrott, but the Republic of Ireland international technically falls within UEFA's U21 list as he was born after January 1, 2002 so would likely not count this season.

The new rules also introduced a minimum duration of a loan deal - between two transfer windows - and the maximum duration of one year, bringing to an end 18-month loan deals which Spurs have utilised in the past. A club may only have a maximum of three professionals loaned out to a single club and three loaned in from a single club.

There is currently no limit on domestic loans out, other than the number of players a Premier League club can bring in on loan from other Premier League sides, which is is four but no more than one from a single Premier League club. The Football League limit is five loan players in a matchday squad so for Spurs there are no restrictions on how many players they could send out domestically to various clubs other than if that club had already too many for those limits just mentioned.

FIFA announced back in 2022 that national associations would be given three years from July 1 that year "to implement, in agreement with domestic football stakeholders, rules on a domestic loan system which are in line with the principles of integrity of competitions, youth development, and the prevention of hoarding players. The limitation on the number of loans at national level may differ from the FIFA rules as long as it is consistent with these principles".

So for now with three international loans out of players over 21 and seven domestic loans out, Spurs are within the rules and have scope for further loan moves amid a frantic January of temporary transfers.

Worth noting, to be exempt, you have to be both under 21 AND club trained, not either/or. And obviously this is international loans only

 

[ukdy]

Great player, wish we was fit for this system as a super sub.. hope he recovers well.

Frees up a spot in the squad for someone. Further reduces the workload for our medical team. Moves on another player who would be leaving anyway, making room for fresh thinking, ideas, mindsets and players.