Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[frostytheyid]

Both of these statements are untrue.

Examples please

 

[wrd]

Examples please

This has been fucking done to death, this was his worst season and just fucking scroll through the games and see who got the goals and assists in big games for fuck sake people shouldn't have to keep spelling it out for people who are fucking blind.

 

[rez9000]

It’s not spiteful - it’s a lighthearted way to let people who are spamming the thread with inane, boring, unfunny, unoriginal nonsense about pronunciation know that they are spamming the thread. You’ve taken it as spiteful as you’re oversensitive. When it’s literally already been done to death before the guy has even put pen anywhere close to paper, it’s spam. Don’t think you lot understand what the spam rating denotes?

I removed them all, as I was planning to anyway - can’t deal with fully grown men fighting through tears while declaring they don’t care about ratings. I’m aware of the irony of me posting unrelated shit now, so spam me, I don’t care - but it’s annoying for people who click on a thread thinking there must have been an update (due to there being 5 extra pages) to then read through pages of people chatting bollocks about his name.

I don’t agree with your stance, chap (onions and all that) but I had to give you a funny rating for the bolded bit.

If you spam me for this, I swear to God...

 

[Tucker]

Now I want some butterscotch angel delight.

Thanks guys.

 

[Norvern Munkey]

Now I want some butterscotch angel delight.

Thanks guys.

I've whinged like a bitch about spelling etc and now I'm going completely off piste....

Try it with chopped up bits of mars bar ... it's the bomb.... errr... with me celso and n'dombele in a midfield 3 ?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I've whinged like a bitch about spelling etc and now I'm going completely off piste....

Try it with chopped up bits of mars bar ... it's the bomb.... errr... with me celso and n'dombele in a midfield 3 ?

This sounds crazily tempting.

 

[ardiles&villa]

Wow what a shower of shite this thread is.

 

[dwicker7]

In an attempt to bring this thread back from the utter shit show it's been, I've dug around on Squawka and compared a couple of players (might need spell check, but who the hell cares honestly).

Important Notes: These are just La Liga matches for LC and Premier League matches for CE. CE has played considerably more minutes comparatively speaking. All statistics are shown per 90 minutes. It also should be kept in mind that these are two very different leagues, and the quality of player surrounding these two are very different as well.

I am a biostatistician, and do not understand footballing statistics at an expert level. With that in mind, I have included as many statistics as possible (to an extent) so that anyone may analyze and draw conclusions from this data. That said, I'm going to provide a few takeaways:

1. It might be biased by their different duties within their team and respective leagues, but wow LC is better at taking on opposition with the ball at his feet and defending. If LC can carry over this kind of contribution, he would be a considerably more valuable asset in our high pressing system. I would be very interested to see a positioning heat map for the two of them after seeing this data

2. While LC's Assist/90 number is a bit discouraging, his chances created from open play, while not as high as CE, indicate that the chances he is creating might not be effectively taken. So Christian certainly seems the better chance creator, but he's also creating chances for some of the best attacking players in the world and that should be taken into consideration. (the wrong number is bolded for Chances Created from open play, my mistake but you'll live) This potential problem should be balanced by the fact that...

3. LC's goal scoring numbers, while different in style (see shots and goals outside the area), are better than CE's. Based on my limited understanding of footballing statistics, LC's noticeably superior Shot Conversion/90 is promising. The same way we should note LC's low assist number might be skewed by his teammates, we should do the same for CE's goal scoring numbers in a side with Harry Kane, Son Heung-min, and Moussa Sissoko.

4. Last thing I'll note is, with the exception of crosses, LC keeps up with CE's passing numbers quite nicely. Obviously it will be very difficult for a player of any caliber to step in and replace such an integral player to the team. But LC's productivity certainly suggests he might be capable of doing so.

I'll reiterate that this is open source data mined and analyzed by an amateur. This comparison would be supplemented well by a comparison of RB and THFC's overall team data, LC and CE's average position (see point 1), and a comparison of the quality of attacking talent of the two teams (see point 2).

If you're still reading at this point, thank you for taking the time to read my Sunday morning boredom project, and I hope you enjoyed it and learned something.

 

[Yiddo100]

View attachment 51466

In an attempt to bring this thread back from the utter shit show it's been, I've dug around on Squawka and compared a couple of players (might need spell check, but who the hell cares honestly).

Important Notes: These are just La Liga matches for LC and Premier League matches for CE. CE has played considerably more minutes comparatively speaking. All statistics are shown per 90 minutes. It also should be kept in mind that these are two very different leagues, and the quality of player surrounding these two are very different as well.

I am a biostatistician, and do not understand footballing statistics at an expert level. With that in mind, I have included as many statistics as possible (to an extent) so that anyone may analyze and draw conclusions from this data. That said, I'm going to provide a few takeaways:

1. It might be biased by their different duties within their team and respective leagues, but wow LC is better at taking on opposition with the ball at his feet and defending. If LC can carry over this kind of contribution, he would be a considerably more valuable asset in our high pressing system. I would be very interested to see a positioning heat map for the two of them after seeing this data

2. While LC's Assist/90 number is a bit discouraging, his chances created from open play, while not as high as CE, indicate that the chances he is creating might not be effectively taken. So Christian certainly seems the better chance creator, but he's also creating chances for some of the best attacking players in the world and that should be taken into consideration. (the wrong number is bolded for Chances Created from open play, my mistake but you'll live) This potential problem should be balanced by the fact that...

3. LC's goal scoring numbers, while different in style (see shots and goals outside the area), are better than CE's. Based on my limited understanding of footballing statistics, LC's noticeably superior Shot Conversion/90 is promising. The same way we should note LC's low assist number might be skewed by his teammates, we should do the same for CE's goal scoring numbers in a side with Harry Kane, Son Heung-min, and Moussa Sissoko.

4. Last thing I'll note is, with the exception of crosses, LC keeps up with CE's passing numbers quite nicely. Obviously it will be very difficult for a player of any caliber to step in and replace such an integral player to the team. But LC's productivity certainly suggests he might be capable of doing so.

I'll reiterate that this is open source data mined and analyzed by an amateur. This comparison would be supplemented well by a comparison of RB and THFC's overall team data, LC and CE's average position (see point 1), and a comparison of the quality of attacking talent of the two teams (see point 2).

If you're still reading at this point, thank you for taking the time to read my Sunday morning boredom project, and I hope you enjoyed it and learned something.

Don’t suppose you have the stats for Lo Celso and Eriksen do you?

 

[Sandro30]

Don’t suppose you have the stats for Lo Celso and Eriksen do you?

I think that was the joke... ?

 

[Lighty64]

I've whinged like a bitch about spelling etc and now I'm going completely off piste....

Try it with chopped up bits of mars bar ... it's the bomb.... errr... with me celso and n'dombele in a midfield 3 ?

you need to try harder not N'dombele it's NDombele, not every French player has a ' in it

 

[Lighty64]

View attachment 51466

In an attempt to bring this thread back from the utter shit show it's been, I've dug around on Squawka and compared a couple of players (might need spell check, but who the hell cares honestly).

Important Notes: These are just La Liga matches for LC and Premier League matches for CE. CE has played considerably more minutes comparatively speaking. All statistics are shown per 90 minutes. It also should be kept in mind that these are two very different leagues, and the quality of player surrounding these two are very different as well.

I am a biostatistician, and do not understand footballing statistics at an expert level. With that in mind, I have included as many statistics as possible (to an extent) so that anyone may analyze and draw conclusions from this data. That said, I'm going to provide a few takeaways:

1. It might be biased by their different duties within their team and respective leagues, but wow LC is better at taking on opposition with the ball at his feet and defending. If LC can carry over this kind of contribution, he would be a considerably more valuable asset in our high pressing system. I would be very interested to see a positioning heat map for the two of them after seeing this data

2. While LC's Assist/90 number is a bit discouraging, his chances created from open play, while not as high as CE, indicate that the chances he is creating might not be effectively taken. So Christian certainly seems the better chance creator, but he's also creating chances for some of the best attacking players in the world and that should be taken into consideration. (the wrong number is bolded for Chances Created from open play, my mistake but you'll live) This potential problem should be balanced by the fact that...

3. LC's goal scoring numbers, while different in style (see shots and goals outside the area), are better than CE's. Based on my limited understanding of footballing statistics, LC's noticeably superior Shot Conversion/90 is promising. The same way we should note LC's low assist number might be skewed by his teammates, we should do the same for CE's goal scoring numbers in a side with Harry Kane, Son Heung-min, and Moussa Sissoko.

4. Last thing I'll note is, with the exception of crosses, LC keeps up with CE's passing numbers quite nicely. Obviously it will be very difficult for a player of any caliber to step in and replace such an integral player to the team. But LC's productivity certainly suggests he might be capable of doing so.

I'll reiterate that this is open source data mined and analyzed by an amateur. This comparison would be supplemented well by a comparison of RB and THFC's overall team data, LC and CE's average position (see point 1), and a comparison of the quality of attacking talent of the two teams (see point 2).

If you're still reading at this point, thank you for taking the time to read my Sunday morning boredom project, and I hope you enjoyed it and learned something.

those stats must be before the Everton game, as Eriksen converted to make it 2-2

 

[Yiddo100]

you need to try harder not N'dombele it's NDombele, not every French player has a ' in it

Only the shit ones we buy

 

[Lighty64]

Only the shit ones we buy

not on the youtube clips, they both looked very tidy and tricky. looks like they struggle to impress in training. N'jie did a pretty good job v Man C when he came on, and was never seen again

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

you need to try harder not N'dombele it's NDombele, not every French player has a ' in it

For absolute clarity, it's actually Ndombele.

 

[dondo]

Very optimistic IMO. Skipp is not the player Winks is and is unlikely to become as good.

That’s very unfair on skipp. He may not ever get to the level of winks but winks never played for us until he was 20 iirc, skipp has played a handful of games and been involved in the squad at the age of 18 and will improve a lot in the next 2 years imo

 

[Lighty64]

For absolute clarity, it's actually Ndombele.

I actually typed that but the d was changed, I then changed it back hit the enter and it went through with a D without seeing it. I know this if you look at my signature

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

I actually typed that but the d was changed, I then changed it back hit the enter and it went through with a D without seeing it. I know this if you look at my signature

Welcome to my world my friend. ??

 

[Klinsmannesque]

View attachment 51466

In an attempt to bring this thread back from the utter shit show it's been, I've dug around on Squawka and compared a couple of players (might need spell check, but who the hell cares honestly).

Important Notes: These are just La Liga matches for LC and Premier League matches for CE. CE has played considerably more minutes comparatively speaking. All statistics are shown per 90 minutes. It also should be kept in mind that these are two very different leagues, and the quality of player surrounding these two are very different as well.

I am a biostatistician, and do not understand footballing statistics at an expert level. With that in mind, I have included as many statistics as possible (to an extent) so that anyone may analyze and draw conclusions from this data. That said, I'm going to provide a few takeaways:

1. It might be biased by their different duties within their team and respective leagues, but wow LC is better at taking on opposition with the ball at his feet and defending. If LC can carry over this kind of contribution, he would be a considerably more valuable asset in our high pressing system. I would be very interested to see a positioning heat map for the two of them after seeing this data

2. While LC's Assist/90 number is a bit discouraging, his chances created from open play, while not as high as CE, indicate that the chances he is creating might not be effectively taken. So Christian certainly seems the better chance creator, but he's also creating chances for some of the best attacking players in the world and that should be taken into consideration. (the wrong number is bolded for Chances Created from open play, my mistake but you'll live) This potential problem should be balanced by the fact that...

3. LC's goal scoring numbers, while different in style (see shots and goals outside the area), are better than CE's. Based on my limited understanding of footballing statistics, LC's noticeably superior Shot Conversion/90 is promising. The same way we should note LC's low assist number might be skewed by his teammates, we should do the same for CE's goal scoring numbers in a side with Harry Kane, Son Heung-min, and Moussa Sissoko.

4. Last thing I'll note is, with the exception of crosses, LC keeps up with CE's passing numbers quite nicely. Obviously it will be very difficult for a player of any caliber to step in and replace such an integral player to the team. But LC's productivity certainly suggests he might be capable of doing so.

I'll reiterate that this is open source data mined and analyzed by an amateur. This comparison would be supplemented well by a comparison of RB and THFC's overall team data, LC and CE's average position (see point 1), and a comparison of the quality of attacking talent of the two teams (see point 2).

If you're still reading at this point, thank you for taking the time to read my Sunday morning boredom project, and I hope you enjoyed it and learned something.

Courtesy of PES 2001.

Thanks for the effort though

 

[dwicker7]

Courtesy of PES 2001.

Thanks for the effort though

Yea Squawka’s stats were a little behind and their website wouldn’t cooperate so I had to move it all to excel. I’m hoping for my next iteration to have full season statistics and look a little cleaner.