Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Twizzle]

If these guys have already signed Fekir, then its just a waiting game to see how long they can hold out before accepting our offer. They cannot afford not to sell him.

 

[Primativ]

literally?

informal
used for emphasis while not being literally true.

"I was literally blown away by the response I got

 

[Maxtremist]

As is said every window... so many of the posters on this forum would be horrible businessmen.
'Just pay them what they want' is not a good tactic and certainly one we are in no position to just do.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Do you genuinely think this weird passive-aggressive cuckery is funny? What's going on in real life that's making you act like such a whiny fucker on here?

Mate, this is the internet, why are you taking any of this so serious? Yesterday I'm a bell for arguing, today I'm passive aggressive.

Take the day off.

 

[rossdapep]

As is said every window... so many of the posters on this forum would be horrible businessmen.
'Just pay them what they want' is not a good tactic and certainly one we are in no position to just do.

Would it be a good tactic to then release some PR saying that we have 'moved on' and are looking at Zaniolo or anyone else we've been linked to? Whilst informing GLC's agent that we actuallychaven't and just need to scare Betis.

 

[Scott Spur]

"Betis are keen to get the deal done quickly, but only at the exact price of their choosing". They are of course fully entitled to put a high price on his head, but not budging from that is not conducive to a quick deal.

The key question remains: Is he actually worth the €75m they want? In this summer's market, that puts him among the (former) Ajax starlets that have moved. Does his profile really warrant a similar fee to those paid for de Jong and de Ligt?

I’d like to think that Levy has considered this or got a suitable plan B.

If Poch insists it’s only Lo Celso (probably the case) and is not happy with the offered plan B or C, then at this point in time I’d have to say yes, back your manager.

 

[morris25]

All comes down to if they need to sell more than we need to buy. If we are the only suitor we will prevail, if not we will have to pay what they want

 

[piedpiper]

Have I missed some announcement or information regarding Jan? Given his age it seems pretty obvious to me that in November or December he will agree a one year extension and that will continue to be the case until he and the club mutually decide he's done his time with us.

I still think we've had Toby for longer than we expected and that Sánchez was/is in fact viewed as his replacement. We also know that Poche has always wanted Dier's future to lie at CB. We obviously have differing views, but I don't think there's a necessity to look outside the club for Toby's successor.

Eriksen is extremely important to how we've played while we've had him. Would it be easier to directly replace him (at something approaching £100m one would assume) or to tweak our system (like Klopp tweaked Liverpool's when Coutinho went)?

What did you mean by "we may have a chance"?

Can't disagree with your analysis...Jan hopefully will get a extension. Actually I can't see them not doing so. I do know that he too wants to retire at Ajax.

 

[Maxtremist]

Would it be a good tactic to then release some PR saying that we have 'moved on' and are looking at Zaniolo or anyone else we've been linked to? Whilst informing GLC's agent that we actuallychaven't and just need to scare Betis.

Possibly. It sounds like Betis will need some money and are gonna find it hard to have Fekir and GLC so will want to get what they can from GLC so suggesting we're looking for others might be a good tactic (potentially what the whole Dybala stuff was). But there's a variety of tactics and things that could be done and we don't know how much clubs take that seriously. I mean Betis probably know how serious we are to go for GLC so us looking at someone else might not hold up to them.

Ultimately though the suggestion of 'Just pay the money' isn't really a good one. We all want the best deal. Us and Betis. So we're negotiating. It's not just they set a fee and we say yes. We do not have the money for that.

 

[Spurrific]

Mate, this is the internet, why are you taking any of this so serious? Yesterday I'm a bell for arguing, today I'm passive aggressive.

Take the day off.

The fact I deleted that post within 5 seconds and you still saw it and replied says it all. You are on here 24/7 and it is affecting you. You've been arguing literally every day, for the most pointless things - and when there's nobody to argue with, you make a passive-aggressive comment inferring things nobody was saying so you can argue with a hypothetical viewpoint?

It's you that needs to take a day off, it honestly can't be good for your blood pressure.

 

[nikojev]

It's like when we tried to buy Zaha. We're the only interested party but we can't get them to lower their absurdly high asking price, despite them being a smaller club than us in every sense.

I guess the main difference is that palace didn't want to sell Zaha, but betis seemed resigned to losing glc right from the start.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Literally looks like this one is going down to the wire which is really frustrating. Deadline day it is.

Agree.....but so long as it happens..

Even if we signed him last week, i would be very surprised if Poch started him the first few games, he rarely throws players straight in .

 

[spursfan77]

They need to reduce their asking price then. Ta da!

 

[weststandyid]

informal
used for emphasis while not being literally true.

"I was literally blown away by the response I got

no (unless you ended up receiving oral sex, or were actually physically displaced from the breeze caused by 'the 'response').

 

[CrouchPotato]

It's like when we tried to buy Zaha. We're the only interested party but we can't get them to lower their absurdly high asking price, despite them being a smaller club than us in every sense.

I guess the main difference is that palace didn't want to sell Zaha, but betis seemed resigned to losing glc right from the start.

Prem clubs make a ridiculous amount of money now. The clubs at the bottom of the prem make more than Betis. Prem clubs don’t need to sell their best assets anymore for funds.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

The fact I deleted that post within 5 seconds and you still saw it and replied says it all. You are on here 24/7 and it is affecting you. You've been arguing literally every day, for the most pointless things - and when there's nobody to argue with, you make a passive-aggressive comment inferring things nobody was saying so you can argue with a hypothetical viewpoint?

It's you that needs to take a day off, it honestly can't be good for your blood pressure.

Ok buddy, if you say so

 

[Japhet]

I'd say they'd be lucky to get what we have supposedly offered (per BBC), circa £50m. I believe ITK (herc maybe) even placed the total value at £60m. He certainly isn't as sought after as Ndombele. He is a good age and one of the best performers in Spain last year, but so was (the slightly older) Sarabia and he went to PSG for under £20m.

I am surprised the deal didn't go straight through after Fekir signed. I'm pretty sure they took the buy option with the expectation to flip him. Even at £50m they cover the Fekir fee with the profit. They obviously think they can out-poker Levy. Saying they want a quick deal is a joke really.

The frustration comes with the situation. Push comes to shove I'd want Levy to just bite the bullet rather than leave us short/disappoint Poch, but at the same time that is playing into Betis' hands, and I don't want them mugging us off. I hope they just get together and thrash out a compromise soon.

I don't think Poch's comments (or at least the way they've been interpreted) have really helped Levy on this one. He seems to be urging Levy to pay up now, which will encourage Betis to carry on with the stand off. It would have been much more helpful if he'd said 'we have options' which may have made Betis rethink their stance.

 

[McFlash]

Mate, this is the internet, why are you taking any of this so serious? Yesterday I'm a bell for arguing, today I'm passive aggressive.

Take the day off.

Your mood does seem to swing more than Bale's 9 iron!

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Your mood does seem to swing more than Bale's 9 iron!

Amazing what you can conjure sat behind a screen tbf. Never realized how many folks care though, so thank you

 

[WiganSpur]

"Betis are keen to get the deal done quickly, but only at the exact price of their choosing". They are of course fully entitled to put a high price on his head, but not budging from that is not conducive to a quick deal.

The key question remains: Is he actually worth the €75m they want? In this summer's market, that puts him among the (former) Ajax starlets that have moved. Does his profile really warrant a similar fee to those paid for de Jong and de Ligt?

The disadvantage we have is our window closing before the rest of Europe. That leads me to think we will have to increase our bid a little bit. If we are say £20m apart then they may just feel there becomes less risk in taking their chances and trying to sell him to another European club. There would surely be interest from somebody for say £45m worst case scenario.