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Player Watch: Gareth Bale - Retires

EQP

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He'll take the ones from the edge of the box on the right, Bale will take the ones from the left.

If Lucas is on the field, I would much rather if took free-kicks from that side of the field as he's scored a couple for PSG and one vs Marine in the Cup and one vs Girona in a pre-season friendly. Kane's only free-kick goal was that deflected free-kick vs Villa 6-7 years ago, I love the guy but this is not his strength.





 

jay2040

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I think its a good thing that Kane is not the only one we look to now.
It must be be good for him as he has someone else on the pitch that is at his level.
That assist from Bale and the finish from Kane was textbook stuff. Loved the way Kane turned round implying its all you bro! Bale being the 3rd wheel between him and Sonny appears to be a good thing.
Just hope I have the honour and pleasure of seeing him at the Lane!
 

Shadydan

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If Lucas is on the field, I would much rather if took free-kicks from that side of the field as he's scored a couple for PSG and one vs Marine in the Cup and one vs Girona in a pre-season friendly. Kane's only free-kick goal was that deflected free-kick vs Villa 6-7 years ago, I love the guy but this is not his strength.







They're not great in all honesty, last one is decent mind you...

I don't see what the big deal with Kane taking free kicks anyway, it's not like he's taking them off a ready made free kick taker, not like we have Ward-Prowse in the team and Kane is pulling rank over him. I guess it can be annoying that it normally hits the wall but when the alternative is Eric Dier then I'd rather he take them personally.

Anyway good thing now is that Bale will see more pitch time so I think he will take the burden off Kane and take the ones on the left hand side.
 

beats1

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Trying to think about a situation in PL history in which a team was misfiring and looked out of contention only for a player to suddenly just burst into life and fire his team into CL or Europe or even away from relegation.

I can only really think of Tevez at WH, who after largely doing nothing for 4 months suddenly sprang to life and kept them up.

There is of course the times when Arsenal looked like they'd fallen away from top 4 but at our expense turned it around. But no player really stands out. Maybe Van Persie.

Any one think of any?
David Bentley :sneaky:
 

Japhet

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They're not great in all honesty, last one is decent mind you...

I don't see what the big deal with Kane taking free kicks anyway, it's not like he's taking them off a ready made free kick taker, not like we have Ward-Prowse in the team and Kane is pulling rank over him. I guess it can be annoying that it normally hits the wall but when the alternative is Eric Dier then I'd rather he take them personally.

Anyway good thing now is that Bale will see more pitch time so I think he will take the burden off Kane and take the ones on the left hand side.

What's annoying is that after years and God only knows how many attempts at shooting and failing with direct free kicks, we haven't come up with anything more inventive. It isn't compulsory to shoot from a direct free kick and the majority of the time we hand the ball straight to the opponent.
 

Saoirse

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If Lucas is on the field, I would much rather if took free-kicks from that side of the field as he's scored a couple for PSG and one vs Marine in the Cup and one vs Girona in a pre-season friendly. Kane's only free-kick goal was that deflected free-kick vs Villa 6-7 years ago, I love the guy but this is not his strength.






The Marine one wouldn't go in once in a hundred seasons against PL teams, and the Girona one is very weak organisation with the wall too. Truth is other than Bale we just don't have any good options.
 

BringBack_leGin

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There have been 11 free kicks scored this season. 4 by James Ward Prowse, the other 7 by 7 different players. That says to me that there is one ‘dependable’ free kick taker in the league.

Walls are better, footballs are more unpredictable when hit from a still starting point and, in the era of the team game ruling supreme while mavericks are fewer and further between than ever, the specialists free kick taker just isn’t that prevalent anymore.
 

Saoirse

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There have been 11 free kicks scored this season. 4 by James Ward Prowse, the other 7 by 7 different players. That says to me that there is one ‘dependable’ free kick taker in the league.

Walls are better, footballs are more unpredictable when hit from a still starting point and, in the era of the team game ruling supreme while mavericks are fewer and further between than ever, the specialists free kick taker just isn’t that prevalent anymore.
Other than Southampton, teams should really be shooting from free kicks very rarely if at all. Unless you have an exceptional taker or unusual circumstances (deep in injury time, or you spot the defense out of position and try a quick one), a pass/cross is the best option at the top level of the modern game. Although I'm sure fans would get very frustrated by it...
 

BringBack_leGin

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Other than Southampton, teams should really be shooting from free kicks very rarely if at all. Unless you have an exceptional taker or unusual circumstances (deep in injury time, or you spot the defense out of position and try a quick one), a pass/cross is the best option at the top level of the modern game. Although I'm sure fans would get very frustrated by it...
Totally agree. Best goal I ever saw from a direct free kick? Argentina v England at World Cup 98.

 

danielneeds

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There have been 11 free kicks scored this season. 4 by James Ward Prowse, the other 7 by 7 different players. That says to me that there is one ‘dependable’ free kick taker in the league.

Walls are better, footballs are more unpredictable when hit from a still starting point and, in the era of the team game ruling supreme while mavericks are fewer and further between than ever, the specialists free kick taker just isn’t that prevalent anymore.
Surely football’s being more unpredictable should favour the taker? We know Bale is an exceptional set piece taker. It’s kinda scandalous that he was moved off them by Ronaldo at Madrid who was only slightly better at them than Kane. I would be very surprised if now that his confidence is up he doesn’t score one by the end of the season.
 

Wadec

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Bale needs to be on set pieces, the only two I can remember Kane scoring for us were deflections.

Plus if the keeper saves it and it comes back into the danger area, no player in our squad has the instincts of Kane in the box. He just knows where to be.

Do agree that being more creative on set pieces is something that will change, I can see it becoming more common next season. I am surprised Pep's teams don't do it already.
 

BringBack_leGin

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As a not yet 6 year old I’d be lying if a said I remember seeing that live, I certainly wasn’t in attendance (dad and uncle obviously were) and can’t imagine that my football hating mum would’ve sat me in front of the tele.

Besides, you know what my overriding sentiment was.

Prick. ?
Surely football’s being more unpredictable should favour the taker? We know Bale is an exceptional set piece taker. It’s kinda scandalous that he was moved off them by Ronaldo at Madrid who was only slightly better at them than Kane. I would be very surprised if now that his confidence is up he doesn’t score one by the end of the season.
I agree with the latter part of your post, but the unpredictability of the ball only favours the taker if it gets past the wall and is on target, and that in itself seems harder to achieve than it used to be for a myriad of reasons. I do think the lack of individuals is the bigger reason though. The team player who also specialists in set pieces like Beckham or Ward Prowse is rare, but the maverick who lights everything up is even rarer these days sadly.

It’s why football was better in the 90s.
 

Saoirse

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Surely football’s being more unpredictable should favour the taker? We know Bale is an exceptional set piece taker. It’s kinda scandalous that he was moved off them by Ronaldo at Madrid who was only slightly better at them than Kane. I would be very surprised if now that his confidence is up he doesn’t score one by the end of the season.
Not really, because there's only an absolutely tiny portion of the goal where the shot will go in at PL level, and you need the power, dip over the wall etc too. A free-kick has to be essentially perfect, or benefit from a defensive howler or unlucky defection, to go in.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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As a not yet 6 year old I’d be lying if a said I remember seeing that live, I certainly wasn’t in attendance (dad and uncle obviously were) and can’t imagine that my football hating mum would’ve sat me in front of the tele.

Besides, you know what my overriding sentiment was.

Prick. ?


 

DJS

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I’d have bale on all free kicks personally.

Either he shoots on his favoured side or at least Kane is then in penalty box to go for any rebounds.
 

punkisback

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I’d have bale on all free kicks personally.

Either he shoots on his favoured side or at least Kane is then in penalty box to go for any rebounds.
Agree. He scored a very Good one against arsenal in his first few games for us from the left hand side. Curled it around the wall at a low height.
 

danielneeds

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Not really, because there's only an absolutely tiny portion of the goal where the shot will go in at PL level, and you need the power, dip over the wall etc too. A free-kick has to be essentially perfect, or benefit from a defensive howler or unlucky defection, to go in.
That's true with a classical up and down curling freekick, but with Bale's knuckleball one he developed, it actually exploits the unpredictabilty of where the modern ball will go. Who can ever forget that poor Lyon keeper who was traumatised by the ball moving all over the place, he didn't know which way to dive.
 

Trix

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Bale needs to be on set pieces, the only two I can remember Kane scoring for us were deflections.

Plus if the keeper saves it and it comes back into the danger area, no player in our squad has the instincts of Kane in the box. He just knows where to be.

Do agree that being more creative on set pieces is something that will change, I can see it becoming more common next season. I am surprised Pep's teams don't do it already.
No reason they can't mix it up especially from more central positions. Not knowing which way it's likely to go makes it harder to defend and set up for.
 
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