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Player Watch: Erik Lamela

Matthew

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Aug 29, 2012
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So long coco, good luck!
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walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
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Your assertion that he isn’t average is incorrect, that is what makes it so. We could play this game all day long. I get it, you love Lamela. I like him, he tried hard and gave his all and respect for that. He was not a shit signing, he isn’t and hasn’t been a great signing either. He has been pretty middle of the road his whole Spurs career. Good luck to him in the future.
No mate, you miss the point entirely. I dont "love" him at all. I have no axe to grind. He's a millionaire footballer, he doesn't need my love.

My argument is purely with a) your assertion that he is average because he wasn't great in many games b) that your opinion that he was average is not backed up by any meaningful or measurable facts.

Therefore unless you can present anything more than just your opinion, you are demonstrably incorrect in both counts.
 

Timberwolf

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Jan 17, 2008
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No mate, you miss the point entirely. I dont "love" him at all. I have no axe to grind. He's a millionaire footballer, he doesn't need my love.

My argument is purely with a) your assertion that he is average because he wasn't great in many games b) that your opinion that he was average is not backed up by any meaningful or measurable facts.

Therefore unless you can present anything more than just your opinion, you are demonstrably incorrect in both counts.
It's a forum mate - he's allowed to have an opinion on a player. Lamela has always been divisive so it's hardly like he's calling Kane or Son average.

Anyway, all the best Coco you beautiful mad eyed bastard!
 

sundanceyid10

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Aug 22, 2013
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No mate, you miss the point entirely. I dont "love" him at all. I have no axe to grind. He's a millionaire footballer, he doesn't need my love.

My argument is purely with a) your assertion that he is average because he wasn't great in many games b) that your opinion that he was average is not backed up by any meaningful or measurable facts.

Therefore unless you can present anything more than just your opinion, you are demonstrably incorrect in both counts.
Don't agree. He may not have had many great games.....

Those are ‘your’ words in an earlier post, so I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make, it’s rather laughable that you then say someone else is demonstrably wrong. You are arguing with yourself.
 
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walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
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It's a forum mate - he's allowed to have an opinion on a player. Lamela has always been divisive so it's hardly like he's calling Kane or Son average.

Anyway, all the best Coco you beautiful mad eyed bastard!
Again, another missing the point.

Did I question his right to have an opinion? Or did I question his opinion?

As you say, it's a forum. It's for discussing people's opinions.
 

HildoSpur

Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.
Oct 1, 2005
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Good luck Erik - a player I always loved and gave everything in the shirt. So much talent but unfortunately made of glass.
 

walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
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Don't agree. He may not have had many great games.....

Those are ‘your’ words in an earlier post, so I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make, it’s rather laughable that you then say someone else is demonstrably wrong.
Does not having many great games make him average? The very definition of average is never having any terrible or great games, just average one's. For me, he was rarely terrible, rarely great but very often good or at the very least as good as the rest of the team. Given that as a team we have performed above average or good in a large number of games in the last 6 years, it stands to reason that lamela must have at least been good on the whole.


If you were to say that he was never quite the player we hoped for. I would totally agree. But calling him average is both unfair and inaccurate in my opinion.


That is the point.
 

chrissivad

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May 20, 2005
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Does not having many great games make him average? The very definition of average is never having any terrible or great games, just average one's. For me, he was rarely terrible, rarely great but very often good or at the very least as good as the rest of the team. Given that as a team we have performed above average or good in a large number of games in the last 6 years, it stands to reason that lamela must have at least been good on the whole.


If you were to say that he was never quite the player we hoped for. I would totally agree. But calling him average is both unfair and inaccurate in my opinion.


That is the point.

I don't think it does.
You can still have the odd great or poor game and still be an average player.

You can have a poor game, and still be a great player.
 

sundanceyid10

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Aug 22, 2013
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Does not having many great games make him average? The very definition of average is never having any terrible or great games, just average one's. For me, he was rarely terrible, rarely great but very often good or at the very least as good as the rest of the team. Given that as a team we have performed above average or good in a large number of games in the last 6 years, it stands to reason that lamela must have at least been good on the whole.


If you were to say that he was never quite the player we hoped for. I would totally agree. But calling him average is both unfair and inaccurate in my opinion.


That is the point.
You have shifted to it being your opinion at least rather than a fact, which you are obviously entitled too. I’m season ticket holder have watched him (well I would say a lot but he hasn’t played a lot) he has for large parts been injured and a substitute. I admire his passion, his love of Spurs and his odd and I mean odd and occasional moments of skill. Unfortunately far outweighed by headless chicken tackling, wanting to much time on the ball, failure to pass very often when better options are available. He was a significant investment, he has been pretty average in his time at Spurs, I don’t think the pace of the premier league ever suited him (that’s not his fault) he is a better player when he has more time on the ball than he gets in this league. Good luck to him in his next adventure.

Am I going to look back on him as trying to do his best, yes. Am I going to look back and think there is yet another very expensive Spurs signing who has turned out to be pretty average, yes.
 
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sparx100

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Jan 8, 2007
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Will miss him for his passion and commitment. I have to say he never pulled up trees but is one of my favourite players at the club. Hope he does well going forward. Good luck you crazy eyed fucker.
 

walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
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I don't think it does.
You can still have the odd great or poor game and still be an average player.

You can have a poor game, and still be a great player.
Yes, was a poor choice of words. Perhaps I should have said had very few poor or great games, which is what I said originally.

For me Ben Davies is average. Sissoko is average. Winks was average, now he's below average.

I think lamela performed at a consistently higher level than any of those players.
 
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