Player Watch Player Watch: Cristian Romero

[Westmorlandspur]

The point is Ramos didn't learn, that was a part of him and still is.

the trade off is whether when he does play is he a difference maker, Ramos was and i'd argue Romero is too.

Poch was sent off 20 times. It’s in their blood.

 

[Yid-ol]

Ref didn't think it was a red
VAR didn't think it was a red
Ex ref didn't think it was a red

It wasn't a red, yet so many still going on that it should have been will stick to what the ref, var and ex ref all agreed on, on this one.

 

[Danny1]

Yes it was a bit of a naughty challenge, but I would like to know if other people think its any worse than what Joelinton did to Porro. When I sae that back I thought it was absolutely horrendous and could have caused serious injury. That was more of a red than the Romero challenge in my book.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

You are showing your bias here.

You don't include Atalanta's games for Romero to keep the red card to game ratio up but do include all comps (since 2 Reds weren't in the league) yet don't include all comps for Saliba (he was sent off in a cup game), just the games league.

VVD, at the same age, had been sent off 5 times.

Yeah, he is more aggressive than those you have named, but some of those are the "Cat" style defenders who partner more aggressive style defenders.

The stats are all from transfermarket site and all comps for all players, no bias just facts.

The Atalanta point is a fair one, I just listed the two clubs each had played over 50 matches for to try to get a similar sample size of games for each player but sure if you include the Atalanta sample instead it does help his numbers somewhat but he played less matches there, however it doesn’t too much change what we can all see as repeated behaviour he needs to learn from that is all.

Added to that we need to add quality depth to our squad at CB anyway and if we did then it wouldn’t be quite as huge of an issue if and when he does go over the line.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Poch was sent off 20 times. It’s in their blood.

Was he really?! That’s mad! As you say it’s in their blood isn’t it!

 

[philll]

Ref didn't think it was a red
VAR didn't think it was a red
Ex ref didn't think it was a red

It wasn't a red, yet so many still going on that it should have been will stick to what the ref, var and ex ref all agreed on, on this one.

Honestly I don't care. Every ex-player I've seen reacting to it said it should've been a red and there's no way it would've been overturned if it had been given on the pitch. If it had been a Newcastle player we'd be universally baying for a sending off.

He's got away with one, and under the circumstances - 3 nil up and in complete control of the match - it would've been the dumbest red ever and the suspension would've been 4 matches, not 3. If that doesn't give him the wake up call he needs to not lunge in like that then nothing will. It being "in his blood" isn't a valid excuse in this day and age, especially with VAR, he needs to sort it out. He's a wonderful defender but this can't become an ongoing fear we have when he's playing.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Honestly I don't care. Every ex-player I've seen reacting to it said it should've been a red and there's no way it would've been overturned if it had been given on the pitch. If it had been a Newcastle player we'd be universally baying for a sending off.

He's got away with one, and under the circumstances - 3 nil up and in complete control of the match - it would've been the dumbest red ever and the suspension would've been 4 matches, not 3. If that doesn't give him the wake up call he needs to not lunge in like that then nothing will.

Spot on, exactly how I feel on it mate.

 

[Yid-ol]

Honestly I don't care. Every ex-player I've seen reacting to it said it should've been a red and there's no way it would've been overturned if it had been given on the pitch. If it had been a Newcastle player we'd be universally baying for a sending off.

He's got away with one, and under the circumstances - 3 nil up and in complete control of the match - it would've been the dumbest red ever and the suspension would've been 4 matches, not 3. If that doesn't give him the wake up call he needs to not lunge in like that then nothing will. It being "in his blood" isn't a valid excuse in this day and age, especially with VAR, he needs to sort it out. He's a wonderful defender but this can't become an ongoing fear we have when he's playing.

I will still stick to refs and ex refs over ex players about the rules.

No one disagreed it's a bad challenge and stupid to do, but going with all the other challenges since Romero was sent off, a yellow fits in with all those. Even if it was a red, with all these others not getting a red there is so much the club could have used to appeal it.

So really, its a stupid tackle that he does need to stamp out of his game, everyone agrees with this.

 

[Finchyid]

watch it again he slips.

I did think he slipped but still a pointless tackle

 

[smallsnc]

Yes I'd still back him and stand by him. It's the kind of player he is. I wouldn't change him at all.

Again you are talking about scenarios which didn't happen or play out. Just imaginary what ifs. I prefer to stick to the facts and what's actually happened. He caught Wilson, and got a yellow card. VAR checked it and deemed it a yellow too. So where is this imaginary red card everyone is throwing around?

People need to let it go, we won the game, he got a yellow which was checked and considered a yellow. If it was red he would have got a red but he didn't.

I think that is was borderline yellow/red. If on the field, it had been called a red, I do not think VAR would have overturned. Romero needs to learn what to do when the play gets scrambled and the ball is bouncing away. That is when he tends to lunge in as if he is desperate instead of staying on his feet. To me, it is lazy defending. He is best when he can read the game in front of him. Sometimes it is better to trust your teammates and move to get in behind for cover instead of trying to make the heroic play. If he could learn that, IMO, he has a chance to be a truly great defender.

 

[WiganSpur]

Romero's rashness is why we need to prioritise a RCB option over a left one imo. I guess also given that Davies as a LCB is a better option than Dier or Emerson as a RCB.

 

[marion52]

I thought it was similar to Cash’s on Bentancur?
Thought he was lucky not to get a red, but he has that reckless streak!

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

His foot only slipped out from under him because he was putting all of his weight on that blokes ankle

 

[muppetman]

I could have sworn he did some two footed lunge in the first half that he got away with, but not seen it mentioned anywhere so must have imagined it.

For what it's worth, I think he's still quite young in CB terms and will hopefully get the balance right. He's a really talented footballer as well as a defender and I don't think we could easily replace him.

 

[McFlash]

Yes it was a bit of a naughty challenge, but I would like to know if other people think its any worse than what Joelinton did to Porro. When I sae that back I thought it was absolutely horrendous and could have caused serious injury. That was more of a red than the Romero challenge in my book.

Yup, I thought that was a fucking dangerous "challenge" but nobody seemed to pick up on it.
That would have been a sending off in a rugby game because Porro could have landed on his head/neck and really hurt himself.
It was a disgusting challenge.

 

[Yid-ol]

I think that is was borderline yellow/red. If on the field, it had been called a red, I do not think VAR would have overturned. Romero needs to learn what to do when the play gets scrambled and the ball is bouncing away. That is when he tends to lunge in as if he is desperate instead of staying on his feet. To me, it is lazy defending. He is best when he can read the game in front of him. Sometimes it is better to trust your teammates and move to get in behind for cover instead of trying to make the heroic play. If he could learn that, IMO, he has a chance to be a truly great defender.

But the red card he got, he stayed in his feet, got the ball and cleared it but his follow through landed on the guys leg.

The one last night he stayed on his feet, caught the guy on the ankle and then lost balance only when the Newcastle player moved his foot.

I agree with what you say, but the 2 things that he's being criticized over, he did stay in his feet.

 

[mil1lion]

All those backing Romero's action today, will probably cry and moan, when you realise he is on 4 yellows and we could be back to Emerson Davies partnership within next 3 games.

So the same situation as Bissouma when we had to go back to Hojbjerg. It's just that Romero has the reputation so gets heavier criticism for it. I don't think anyone is backing his actions though. They just don't think it was a red card offence.

 

[carpediem1906]

I have a totally diff pov on this
The issue is not with Romero, the issue is with squad depth. Most of you berating him is because you couldn’t bear another 4 matches of Royal Davies, if it’s Vdv + Laporte (for eg), people would be much less concerned

and the thing abt Romero (and S Americans generally) is that they won’t let you forget if you have been a dick or rough on one of their teammates, in the current match or from years ago, they’d come for you.

for too long we have lived with the “soft” tag, and I quite relish the current vibe that opponents / pundits fear us. Old school in the sense of having a Roy Keane or Vieira on the pitch for us.

You’d get the red cards n suspensions now and then, but the psychological effect (won before even stepping on the pitch) is priceless.

So no, never sell Romero. Instead, buy another CB. Build what Ange wants, and watch us dominate teams and start winning honours!!

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Hate the negative comments around this guy, he is absoloute class, the way some of you are talking he is the second coming of Ben Thatcher.

He is a beast and a hell of a footballer I believe he is the second best CB I've seen at the club since 1990 only behind Ledley (and I loved Toby).

He's not snidey and this season has not been a liability, the red against Chelsea he was clearly trying to block the ball and just missed timed it. Deserved a red but it was a bit unlucky, I'd even argue the one against Wilson wasn't that bad and a bit of a slip. Even so, he's out there giving it all and he's actually calmed down this season. He's recieved a few cards but there's not been anything as bad as Son against Gomes (example).

He's strong in a tackle, but so are the majority of world class defenders. You build your team around this guy. Future captain, and he's going to be an absoloute legend.

 

[Gbspurs]

Hate the negative comments around this guy, he is absoloute class, the way some of you are talking he is the second coming of Ben Thatcher.

He is a beast and a hell of a footballer I believe he is the second best CB I've seen at the club since 1990 only behind Ledley (and I loved Toby).

He's not snidey and this season has not been a liability, the red against Chelsea he was clearly trying to block the ball and just missed timed it. Deserved a red but it was a bit unlucky, I'd even argue the one against Wilson wasn't that bad and a bit of a slip. Even so, he's out there giving it all and he's actually calmed down this season. He's recieved a few cards but there's not been anything as bad as Son against Gomes (example).

He's strong in a tackle, but so are the majority of world class defenders. You build your team around this guy. Future captain, and he's going to be an absoloute legend.

We've just had a 5 game winless streak mainly due to personnel being missing and we finally are starting to get people back and look more solid but we were a whisker away from losing him for another 4 games and facing another awful period.

He is an excellent defender, no-one disputes that, but to find ourselves in that situation would have be catastrophic. He should have never left his fate down to VAR interpretation, he got lucky and in turn so did we.

As a club with aspirations of challenging at the top of the table, can we have our hopes hanging on a defender who could miss so much of the season?

I think we need to bring someone in to challenge him as I think it will bring the best out in him but worse case at least it will insure us against the red cards.