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Mousa Dembele gets six-game ban for violent conduct

guate

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I'm not condoning Dembele's action at all, however the F.A. must use some logic in all this and should be taking into consideration a) his previous record, b) asking themselves why Chelski players are so often involved in these situations? c) Clattenburg's poor handling of the game allowing Chelski players to constantly get away with niggles and tugs right from the very start, d) not said a word regarding the tunnel situation while reports state that Fabregas was doing his very best to continue inciting Spurs players and staff.
 

wooderz

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I wonder if our game against Chelsea next season is during his ban, would be coincidence eh!
 

Khilari

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It's a new precedent from the PL. How can so many players get very light punishment ( Torres, Costa, Shawcross, Suarez etc) for being regularly dirty players (not so much Torres as his was only really bad against Verts ) and get very little.
It's not as if Dembele is a serial offender like these others.
I just think it's really OTT for a one-off.
Just my opinion.
I think you're right to a certain extent that this is perhaps harsher - but I think retrospective punishment is a relatively new thing and therefore precedent maybe only stands a guide to previous offences. Torres for instance I think not being adequately punished was incentive for the FA to bring in stronger rules for retrospective punishment - and now Dembele suffers as a result.

As long as it remains consistent going forwards, I don't mind. Stuff like this needs to be stamped out of the game.
 

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"On 21 April 2013, during the Premier League tussle between Liverpool and Chelsea at Anfield, Luis Suárez bit Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanović on his right arm.

On 24 April, the FA handed Suárez a 10 match ban, after a three-man independent committee agreed that the standard three match ban was insufficient."

Six match ban for eye gouging is not excessive IMO.
 

UncleBuck

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I think you're right to a certain extent that this is perhaps harsher - but I think retrospective punishment is a relatively new thing and therefore precedent maybe only stands a guide to previous offences. Torres for instance I think not being adequately punished was incentive for the FA to bring in stronger rules for retrospective punishment - and now Dembele suffers as a result.

As long as it remains consistent going forwards, I don't mind. Stuff like this needs to be stamped out of the game.
Totally agree, the FA need to actually work with the broadcasters so that there is consistency.
If clubs can see action is being taken across the board including action against what is perceived to be bias towards bigger clubs then I for one haven't got a problem with it.
Maybe there needs to be a committee that meets on a Tuesday that has a representative from each club and anything that is deemed contentious can be voted on, if there is a majority vote then charges can be recommended to the FA.
 

Ionman34

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What a load of bollocks. No marks to his face (apart from the pock marked acne legacy) and he never once raised his hand to nurse the "injury."

The FA sicken me, their agenda is there for those with the eyes to see...


Just a shame Costa still has 2 of them ;)
 

Ironskullll

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"On 21 April 2013, during the Premier League tussle between Liverpool and Chelsea at Anfield, Luis Suárez bit Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanović on his right arm.

On 24 April, the FA handed Suárez a 10 match ban, after a three-man independent committee agreed that the standard three match ban was insufficient."

Six match ban for eye gouging is not excessive IMO.
It ought to be 20 matches for an eye gouge. That wasn't an eye gouge though. It wasn't a gouge of any description. It wasn't even a scratch. It was an aggressive and provocative gesture that deserved punishment. It should have been three matches and I'm flabbergasted at this 6 match ban. If they really thought it was an eye gouge surely it would have been much more. I really and truly don't see the logic here and I don't think that justice has been done.
 

thelak

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FA have clearly bundled the bans Dier, Walker etc would have got if they had been sent off into a combined ban for Dembele
 

spursbhoy67

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This is one of these situations where you take it on the chin and thank yourself lucky it is not more.

If we are honest, we could have had 4-5 players sent off last Monday. That we get away with one player serving a multi-game ban as opposed to Rose, Lamela, Dier, Walker, and Dembele all missing the next three games is a let off.

Call me old fashioned, but the game was brought into disrepute at Stamford Bridge and we played our part in its downfall.

There is a part of me that feels proud of the way the players stood up to Chelsea.

There is also a part of me that is disappointed that the result and performance at the Bridge will now come to define our season for neutrals as opposed to how we played at Stoke, at home to Man United, at Man City, at Palace, etc.
 

lazarus

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Enough of this 'eye gouging' crap!

He pushed Costa in the cheek, that's it.

Sky Goons call it 'eye gouging' and the FA feels it has to act......

Bullshit.
 

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Enough of this 'eye gouging' crap!

He pushed Costa in the cheek, that's it.


Sky Goons call it 'eye gouging' and the FA feels it has to act......

Bullshit.

 

Chris_D

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I'd like to see it reduced but can't say he doesn't deserve to be punished. I suppose at least he avoided the ten game ban that was initially mentioned.
 

lazarus

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Are you kindly posting a video to support my point? Or are you trying to make a counter argument?

I'm sorry; I find it difficult to understand the point being made by strangers posting video clips of game footage in reply to my posts...

Do try to be helpful and make a point.

Thanks
 

Geyzer Soze

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Are you kindly posting a video to support my point? Or are you trying to make a counter argument?

I'm sorry; I find it difficult to understand the point being made by strangers posting video clips of game footage in reply to my posts...

Do try to be helpful and make a point.

Thanks
Perhaps he's pointing out that MD went for his right eye, yet Costa grabs @ his left one to get noticed?
 

Geyzer Soze

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Ludicrous anyway. Costa should get a 10 game ban for putting his ugly face in Moose's way
 
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guiltyparty

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Gouging explicitly means removing something. The fascination with this term is bizarre, as it makes out footballing handbags to be so much more severe - which suits the media. Words have power and shift opinion - a six game ban for a real gouge would not be enough, but at worst Dembele raked his eye. Although as Costa had no visible injury or ill effect at all, it can't have been particularly strong

gouge
ɡaʊdʒ,ɡuːdʒ/
noun
noun: gouge; plural noun: gouges
  1. 1.
    a chisel with a concave blade, used in carpentry, sculpture, and surgery.
  2. 2.
    an indentation or groove made by gouging.
verb
verb: gouge; 3rd person present: gouges; past tense: gouged; past participle: gouged; gerund or present participle: gouging

make (a groove, hole, or indentation) with or as if with a gouge.
  1. "the channel had been gouged out by the ebbing water"
    synonyms:scoop out, burrow (out), hollow out, excavate;
    cut (out), hack (out), chisel (out), dig (out), scrape (out), claw (out), scratch (out);
    literarydelve
    "a tunnel had been gouged out of the mountain"
    • make a rough hole or indentation in (a surface), especially so as to mar or disfigure it.
      "he had wielded the blade inexpertly, gouging the grass in several places"
    • cut or force something out roughly or brutally.
      "one of the young man's eyes had been gouged out"
    • AUSTRALIAN
      dig for minerals, especially opal.
      "he was gouging for ore"
 
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