The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[JCRD]

What mate?
Wheres he said this?

Sorry not a secret... That's what Poch whispered to me... Now that's a secret

But

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/mauricio-pochettino-promise-tottenham-vs-liverpool-danny-rose/

I read it elsewhere too but its a pledge. I'd be intrigued by this.

 

[mpickard2087]

I don't think there's panic, just a reality check.

No I see worst case doomsday scenarios, all through one particular prism.

 

[wrd]

Not going to be concerned with this for the next month, the focus is on the final, all in on that and then we have a whole summer to misinterpret what Poch is saying.

 

[stonebrow]

It’s an end to his first chapter with Spurs not an end to a chapter in his career and his next one is elsewhere...that’s what I choose to believe anyway.

 

[Primativ]

He's said as much also in past interviews [link].

I can't see him going to the backwater French league at this stage of his career, but I can see him going to Madrid or United. Poch can easily take some time out in the summer and wait for a top job to become available. Ole will likely be sacked by Xmas at the latest if they continue their current form. United may be in the Europa league but they are a heavyweight club who will match his ambition.

Poch will absolutely back himself to turn United into PL winners again within 3 - 4 years. If we won't match his ambition, a club like United can provide him with the tools. Poch will have nothing to lose, as the Spurs job becomes redundant to him anyway if he choose to walk away.

Some of you may think I am being pessimistic, but all of this isn't wildly beyond the realms of possibility.

Two windows with no signings does indicate that there has been a huge breakdown in our transfer strategy. The most plausible situation, because we do know there has been some money to spend (Hoddles said it on BT and ITKs have said there is for ages), is that the money we have available is not enough to entice the type of players Poch wants and needs to elevate us to PL challengers. It's been more like Levy has offered him championship players or more N'koudo's etc and Poch has said no, they are not better than what I already have, hence no signings.

So either Levy is able to say, here is the money and subsequently the types of signings you want and need, and Poch stays, or we are left with the obvious alternative.

I'm going to choose to believe, maybe naively, that this will be an incredibly exciting summer for us, that we will make some significant signings,and we embark on an exciting new chapter with Poch at Spurs, because the alternative doesn't bare thinking about. Levy isn't stupid, here we have a once in a lifetime chance, to actually make history with a world class coach and manager, surely Levy won't blow it by being tightfisted...

 

[Indisguise]

And yet we keep hearing that the money was there in the summer but it was Poch who didn't want to spend.

I assume the truth is somewhere in the middle, and Poch didn't want to spend money on the players being offered to him as affordable.

I think the truth is that Levy fucks around with transfers and interferes too much. I love what he's done for the Club and have every respect for him in that regard but Pochettino has proved above and beyond that he can be trusted to manage the team.

 

[CowInAComa]

Its obvious what he is saying.

We cant play the little Tottenham punching above our weight card anymore to justify not going all in for the big prizes.
We are Champions League finalists, have the best stadium in the world, the best facilities, and a side boasting the biggest names in football.

Everything has changed. Time to level up.

 

[chinaman]

Tempted to give you a rainbow, do you know where you are?

If you want to give him a rainbow, it's obvious he's in a male bar.

 

[wrd]

I can't see him going to the backwater French league at this stage of his career, but I can see him going to Madrid or United. Poch can easily take some time out in the summer and wait for a top job to become available. Ole will likely be sacked by Xmas at the latest if they continue their current form. United may be in the Europa league but they are a heavyweight club who will match his ambition.

Poch will absolutely back himself to turn United into PL winners again within 3 - 4 years. If we won't match his ambition, a club like United can provide him with the tools. Poch will have nothing to lose, as the Spurs job becomes redundant to him anyway if he choose to walk away.

Some of you may think I am being pessimistic, but all of this isn't wildly beyond the realms of possibility.

Two windows with no signings does indicate that there has been a huge breakdown in our transfer strategy. The most plausible situation, because we do know there has been some money to spend (Hoddles said it on BT and ITKs have said there is for ages), is that the money we have available is not enough to entice the type of players Poch wants and needs to elevate us to PL challengers. It's been more like Levy has offered him championship players or more N'koudo's etc and Poch has said no, they are not better than what I already have, hence no signings.

So either Levy is able to say, here is the money and subsequently the types of signings you want and need, and Poch stays, or we are left with the obvious alternative.

I'm going to choose to believe, maybe naively, that this will be an incredibly exciting summer for us, that we will make some significant signings,and we embark on an exciting new chapter with Poch at Spurs, because the alternative doesn't bare thinking about. Levy isn't stupid, here we have a once in a lifetime chance, to actually make history with a world class coach and manager, surely Levy won't blow it by being tightfisted...

There is literally no evidence to suggest that to be the case, you're just coming to a conclusion to fit your argument.

however there is evidence that we were targeting the likes of De Ligt and De Jong and their heads were turned by Barca because De Jong came out and said as much. Im sure Poch is a reasonable man and will understand there is a hierachy in football and even the likes of United have to get in line. Id be more optimistic that we have moves up the food chain given our new stadium and run to the final.

 

[ardiles]

That's nice but seems contrary to everything he's actually said.

Yes it does seem contrary. But I think he has said those stuff because I think it’s more with him being pissed off with the press and just wants to play around with them now.

In his recent post match interview, he was happy and joking with everyone but then
suddenly walked off when someone queried him about Kane’s availability. It was very unlike the Poch that we know.

For all we know, after the interviews, he and his crew were enjoying their wine with Levy and laughing at the journos.

There have been ITK over here as well as rumours (here and elsewhere) that Levy had made funds available to him in the past but that he refused to buy certain players. And in the case of FDJ, the player himself admitted that we had approached him but rejected us as he had wanted another season at Ajax.

If he really wanted to leave, he could have spoken about it publicly after the final was over and not now, when it could affect the players minds. He’d most definitely want to win the CL to add a feather to his cap, so why should he sabotage it now.

I still believe that he will be here next season (and beyond) , despite what’s been going on recently.

 

[Lilbaz]

I think the truth is that Levy fucks around with transfers and interferes too much. I love what he's done for the Club and have every respect for him in that regard but Pochettino has proved above and beyond that he can be trusted to manage the team.

Levy holds the belief that prices of players are in a bubble at the moment and will come down. He might be right. Premier league transfer spending was down massively last summer. The domestic tv rights have flatlined.
But it doesn't help us. We need to improve the squad. We have little money available while still paying for the stadium but we need to find some somewhere, whether that a share issue, naming rights or a bung from big joe.

 

[U.S. Spurs Fan]

I really do think he feels like he's hit the ceiling with Spurs and unless he receives substantial guarantees from Levy on changing the club's philosophy to compete with Liverpool in terms of financial outlay then he will leave.

I also think Tuchel will leave PSG this summer and if Pochettino is not happy with what Levy has to say, will ask to join PSG.

I will be absolutely gutted if this happens as I really think any replacement will be a step backwards (unless we are incredibly lucky) but cannot begrudge a guy who on a shoestring has worked footballing miracles and given us the best 5 years of consistent footballing magic I've witnessed as a Spurs fan.

Well said. Seriously, if they aren't going to spend and back him, what more can he accomplish here? He may win the Champions League. He would have taken Spurs to the top of the mountain. Anything else from here would be a big letdown, and while I think fans would understand if we remained pretty much where we have been without spending, I don't think Poch could accept it.

It will be a gigantic mistake on Levy's behalf if he doesn't make things happen this summer for Poch as I can't see anyone else doing what Poch has done here.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

The confirmation bias is strong in here.

It is literally like people chose not to read.

 

[bomberH]

Things have changed. Our ticket prices are now one of the most expensive in the league. With that comes higher expectations. We’re raking in money from CL and we’ve doubled our capacity. That money has to go on transfers and wages if we want to go that extra mile.

Will Levy do it to the extent it needs to be done? I don’t think so and I’m a Levy fan. The only way I see it is if he sells up to billionaires - it’s the only way I can see us competing with the likes of City regularly. It’s shit to say but it’s all about the money.

As long as Levy promises, say, £150M on transfers and wages then Poch will stay. If we have another window like the last 2, then I can see it being his last season next season, maybe even this season. Poch is making it clear now it’s all about the money.

 

[Lilbaz]

Well said. Seriously, if they aren't going to spend and back him, what more can he accomplish here? He may win the Champions League. He would have taken Spurs to the top of the mountain. Anything else from here would be a big letdown, and while I think fans would understand if we remained pretty much where we have been without spending, I don't think Poch could accept it.

It will be a gigantic mistake on Levy's behalf if he doesn't make things happen this summer for Poch as I can't see anyone else doing what Poch has done here.

Verts, eriksen and toby will all be in the last year of their contracts. With little money replacing them will be extremely difficult.

Thing is though poch has 4 years left on his contract. Anyone that wants him will have to pay us a lot.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Its obvious what he is saying.

We cant play the little Tottenham punching above our weight card anymore to justify not going all in for the big prizes.
We are Champions League finalists, have the best stadium in the world, the best facilities, and a side boasting the biggest names in football.

Everything has changed. Time to level up.

Agree, no more let's just be happy competing for 4th

But if levy does agree to this change in mentality and we act like a "big club" then poch must also remember then that a trophy less season would be a failure, won't be able to use the little Tottenham card himself In Future .

 

[Primativ]

There is literally no evidence to suggest that to be the case, you're just coming to a conclusion to fit your argument.

however there is evidence that we were targeting the likes of De Ligt and De Jong and their heads were turned by Barca because De Jong came out and said as much. Im sure Poch is a reasonable man and will understand there is a hierachy in football and even the likes of United have to get in line. Id be more optimistic that we have moves up the food chain given our new stadium and run to the final.

There is heaps of evidence. Firstly is that we haven't signed any top players to improve our first 11, and we haven't strengthened the squad to enable us to challenge for the title. Further evidence is we have our manager making very clear public statements about a need to do "it differently than we have before", to close a chapter and open another chapter, vague quotes about 'may or may not be leaving the club'. It is clear as day what he is talking about, he isn't talking in riddles, he isn't saying these things for the sake of it. You are choosing to cite flimsy material like 'we targetted De Jong but didn't sign him" as evidence for your conclusion to fit your argument that Poch IS being backed sufficiently to match his ambition.

I doubt I am alone in thinking that actually, Poch is not being backed sufficiently by Levy to match his ambition, because clearly that hasn't happened yet. If it happens in the summer, fantastic, we are all happy, but to say Poch has been backed by Levy is just delusional in my humble opinion, based on everything Poch is saying publicly, and by the fact that we haven't signed a player since Moura. If all was rosy behind the scenes, Poch would not be saying the things he publicly is, both today and over the last few months.

To make it even clearer for you, Poch is basically telling Levy and the fans in the press conferences, I want to stay and deliver this club PL titles but I need the tools. If I won't get the tools, I will love you and leave you. I can't do anymore if things stay as they are.

 

[stonebrow]

JJ, Herc or Trix will hopefully bring us some calming news soon enough or we could just forget about the what if’s and look for to something that’s certain...our Champions League final!

 

[Indisguise]

If Poch is happy and everything is as rosy as some people on here are deluded enough to believe then he wouldn't be talking about leaving.

 

[Krule]

Message to Daniel :

Whoever Poch says he needs then buy them. No last minute bargain buys this time....let's have the new arrivals in early for full pre season training so they're bedded in nicely for the first game. Let's do all our business quickly and show the rest of the league our intentions for making a serious title challenge....with a squad full of talent and depth.

COYS !!