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Match Prediction

  • Spurs to win convincingly

    Votes: 49 25.9%
  • Spurs to win unconvincingly

    Votes: 52 27.5%
  • Spurs to lose

    Votes: 21 11.1%
  • Score Draw - Sheffield coming from behind

    Votes: 61 32.3%
  • Score Draw - Spurs coming from behind

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Goal-less Draw

    Votes: 3 1.6%

  • Total voters
    189

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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I started work on the buses in the summer of 1976 just after getting married so I didn't get to many matches in the old Div 2 years due to shift work, by end of the 78 season I was working for my old man and hardly missed any game from 78 to the early nineties.
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teok

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Aug 11, 2011
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Ndombele so much better deeper. Controls games and drives at defenders instead of having his back to goal more.

I came to say this. This is his position.

When he has a bit of time on the ball he can do his thing. I will never get tired of watching him.
 

Archibald&Crooks

Aegina Expat
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Feb 1, 2005
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Wasn't, Keith Robbins busses, was it?
haha, I went to loads of games on Keith's buses
I started work on the buses in the summer of 1976 just after getting married so I didn't get to many matches in the old Div 2 years due to shift work, by end of the 78 season I was working for my old man and hardly missed any game from 78 to the early nineties.
You weren't a clippy on the No73 (to Victoria) out of the bus garage next to Tottenham Town Hall were you? She was a right scrubber :D
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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haha, I went to loads of games on Keith's buses

You weren't a clippy* on the No73 (to Victoria) out of the bus garage next to Tottenham Town Hall were you? She was a right scrubber :D

I was lived with my parents in Blackboy Lane, Tottenham N15 from1972-1976 and I worked up the City - One time I had a sesh and got on a 171 bus from Islington and stayed awake all the way until St. Anne's Road near the old Ever Ready battery place... one stop before I got off - of course =- next thing I knew I woke up on the top deck of a bus which was rocking from side to side going through the bus wash at Tottenham Bus Garage - when I ran down the stairs the cleaners were laughing their tits off at me. I had the last laugh - I was able to calm myself by walking the couple of miles back home in the middle of the night. Everyone has the 'Nam experience.


*Doreen was her name.
 

14/04/91

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Jan 13, 2006
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From which we learn that "formations" are really not very important. Every match, we get pages and pages of garbage, ahead of the match, going on and on about the formation. Nominally "defensive" players are not defensive if they are briefed to play in an attacking role, which we all know good, fast fullbacks can do.

This was never set up as a defensive five-at-the-back strategy. The intention, right from the kick off, was to pin the Sheffield wide players back, so they couldn't get any sustained attacking momentum going. It worked well until we were 2-0 up, at which point some of our mentality issues showed for about 20 minutes.

The formation and, more importantly, the instructions given to the players enabled us to play a vigorous, skilful attacking game whenever we had the ball, which was often for about two thirds of the match.

Judging managerial intent based on formations, in modern football, is bollocks. Players move. They play fluid, changing, multi-functional roles, under orders to alter their roles depending on whether or not we have the ball.

But the next time Mourinho selects three defenders and two wing-backs, we'll have the same chorus of wailing and moaning about "defensive formations" all over again.

100% correct post overall and in particular the sentence in bold. Pretty much minutes 46-61 we gradually lost the plot, culminating in conceding the goal. We got deeper as a unit, especially the wing-backs which gave Sheff U more space out wide - hey presto, cross, header, goal. Head, brickwall, bang.

At this point I was slightly worried, even taking into account Sheff U's quite shocking lack of quality, but we managed to get back on the front-foot helped by restoring a two-goal cushion.
Unbelievable quality from Ndombele but see what happens when midfielders get in the box? Sissoko did it against Brentford too and it's not happening enough for my liking.

All in all, a good performance and whilst this 'formation' was chosen with specific opponents in mind, I'd like to see it again as it suits a number of our players.
 

pedrodelawasp

Morton season ticket holder, Spurs fan from afar
Jan 14, 2019
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From which we learn that "formations" are really not very important. Every match, we get pages and pages of garbage, ahead of the match, going on and on about the formation. Nominally "defensive" players are not defensive if they are briefed to play in an attacking role, which we all know good, fast fullbacks can do.

This was never set up as a defensive five-at-the-back strategy. The intention, right from the kick off, was to pin the Sheffield wide players back, so they couldn't get any sustained attacking momentum going. It worked well until we were 2-0 up, at which point some of our mentality issues showed for about 20 minutes.

The formation and, more importantly, the instructions given to the players enabled us to play a vigorous, skilful attacking game whenever we had the ball, which was often for about two thirds of the match.

Judging managerial intent based on formations, in modern football, is bollocks. Players move. They play fluid, changing, multi-functional roles, under orders to alter their roles depending on whether or not we have the ball.

But the next time Mourinho selects three defenders and two wing-backs, we'll have the same chorus of wailing and moaning about "defensive formations" all over again.

I’m a big fan of playing the way we did.

The ’back 3’ allows Reguilon and Serge to bomb forward to their heart’s content without leaving the space behind them too exposed. I think it works particularly well when the defenders either side of the central one are able to operate as something of a hybrid full-back and centre back. I think that’s probably the role Davies is best suited to. Rodon could grow in to that equivalent on the right. If we were to go looking to sign a player to fit that sort of role my wish list would festure the likes of Kehrer, Militao and Mukiele.
 
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