Marcus Edwards leaving rumour?

[beats1]

@IGSpur - you said he had already signed the contract, right?

He signed scholar forms according to reports but that doesn't mean much to be honest

 

[Shea]

Edwards isn't leaving. He's just a kid and will change his social media statuses/bios frequently without thinking too much of it.

In isolation probably not

When added to rumours about barca, Chelsea and man u all wanting him and an apparent previous comment about being done with spurs (open to interpretation) there's enough smoke to check for fire

It may well be and hopefully is nothing but I can understand any spurs fan who is monitoring the situation and hoping pro signs are cemented ASAP for one of our most promising youth products

Would be a real shame to see him more on and develop in to a star elsewhere

What encourages me about him is he's not standing out I'm his age group due to his physical advantages and being advanced in his physical development compared to his peers like bostock as when faced against men with equal or better strength and pace a youth player needs to have more in terms of technique and guile (mental edge) to still be a star like they were in youth ranks

Hopefully the rapid progression of kane, Mason and bentaleb this year with many others in or around the squad will convince him he's already at the best place for his development long term

 

[Lilbaz]

In isolation probably not

When added to rumours about barca, Chelsea and man u all wanting him and an apparent previous comment about being done with spurs (open to interpretation) there's enough smoke to check for fire

It may well be and hopefully is nothing but I can understand any spurs fan who is monitoring the situation and hoping pro signs are cemented ASAP for one of our most promising youth products

Would be a real shame to see him more on and develop in to a star elsewhere

Not leaving according to the goat.

 

[Shea]

My original post was ITK, he's definitely not leaving.

In the know because you know him personally or have information regarding the situation or because you're in the know about the social media habbits of kids?

(not meaning to sound rude just wanting to clarify what you meant)

 

[Kalim]

My original post was ITK, he's definitely not leaving.

Hope your right as if he continues his development and keeps his head together we have a star in the making.

 

[Col_M]

Isn't this the guy Barcelona sighted as being a top talent recently?

Unfortunately the way things are today, even the kids have agents and play the same games. Either he has been tapped up and had his head turned, or he is angling for a contract. That would be my guess, however seeing as I know nothing about the subject, that is all it is a guess.

It pisses me off that Spurs stuck the number 10 on his shirt advertising that he's the playmaker. Make him a number 2 and no one would have noticed him and we'd keep him under the radar. Simples innit?

Now make ALL of our Deadwood #10 and watch them fly out of the door like CupCakes at an Obesity Annoymous meeting.

 

[Col_M]

Edwards isn't leaving. He's just a kid and will change his social media statuses/bios frequently without thinking too much of it.

It worries me that you know so much about young boys online behviour

 

[HotspurFC1950]

cant win them all

 

[npearl4spurs]

It worries me that you know so much about young boys online behviour

not as worrying as if young boys know all about his online behavior

 

[tommo84]

He can't sign a pro deal yet (not until he's 17?) but will have been offered a scholarship deal this summer.

The ITK info is positive but he is at the exact stage in his development when the likes of Chelsea in particular have made a habit of taking the best talent from other clubs. So we are vulnerable to losing him.

 

[Nicholasw23]

Leave us for Chelsea or Man City who don't have our reputation for bringing youth through....surely he and his family must look at the next 3-4 years as being crucial in his development and elect to stay with us

 

[IGSpur]

@IGSpur - you said he had already signed the contract, right?

Been away this weekend. Yes I've been told he is in the academy next year but as beats1 said it's not a secure contract so we try to get our good ones to sign pro contracts at 17, think he's 17 in December. FWIW we believe there is a gentleman's agreement between the top clubs in England not to pinch players, however as I said a few days ago the interest from Barca is genuine so who knows.

It's a step in the right direction that he is in the academy, from what I gather about him he needs the Ade treatment and I personally and shown he's special. If we can squeeze him in some u21 minutes next season it will definitely help as it seems like he feels he is moving slower than his contemporaries who he is better than and doesn't want to fall behind. We treat him well he may sign at 17.

If he did ever leave it would be sad but we have plenty more coming through, we have Onomah at the moment so let's get him through first and show we can give youngsters a chance. Onomah has been rated as highly as Edwards throughout the club so if he sees Onomah's development or chances blocked that could influence him too

 

[Krafty]

I remember when Bostock was getting linked with Barca, we pinched him and it didn't work out, so goes to show that at that young age potential is great but it doesn't mean much if its not fulfilled.

I'd like Edwards (and any other talented kid) to stay at the club, but equally we can't bend over backwards for one player because its the thin end of the wedge.

I'm sure we can offer an heavily incentivised contract, low basic wage but if he makes the steps forward that he can then he gets rewarded, and rewarded better than his international colleagues.

This is where Poch and his interest in the younger players can help us, and also why we need him to stay for the long term as we can use him to convince young players to stay around as they will know he will still be there when they get closer to the first team and they will get games.

Also, perversely, our recent sales of the likes of Berbatov, Modric and Bale might help because players will think that we wont keep them from progressing beyond us if we don't make the top step (as long as we are suitably compensated)

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Been away this weekend. Yes I've been told he is in the academy next year but as beats1 said it's not a secure contract so we try to get our good ones to sign pro contracts at 17, think he's 17 in December. FWIW we believe there is a gentleman's agreement between the top clubs in England not to pinch players, however as I said a few days ago the interest from Barca is genuine so who knows.

It's a step in the right direction that he is in the academy, from what I gather about him he needs the Ade treatment and I personally and shown he's special. If we can squeeze him in some u21 minutes next season it will definitely help as it seems like he feels he is moving slower than his contemporaries who he is better than and doesn't want to fall behind. We treat him well he may sign at 17.

If he did ever leave it would be sad but we have plenty more coming through, we have Onomah at the moment so let's get him through first and show we can give youngsters a chance. Onomah has been rated as highly as Edwards throughout the club so if he sees Onomah's development or chances blocked that could influence him too

Good.

 

[Shea]

I remember when Bostock was getting linked with Barca, we pinched him and it didn't work out, so goes to show that at that young age potential is great but it doesn't mean much if its not fulfilled.

I'd like Edwards (and any other talented kid) to stay at the club, but equally we can't bend over backwards for one player because its the thin end of the wedge.

I'm sure we can offer an heavily incentivised contract, low basic wage but if he makes the steps forward that he can then he gets rewarded, and rewarded better than his international colleagues.

This is where Poch and his interest in the younger players can help us, and also why we need him to stay for the long term as we can use him to convince young players to stay around as they will know he will still be there when they get closer to the first team and they will get games.

Also, perversely, our recent sales of the likes of Berbatov, Modric and Bale might help because players will think that we wont keep them from progressing beyond us if we don't make the top step (as long as we are suitably compensated)

Bostock seems to me like a kid who physically grew in to a man at a young age which gave him a lot of physical advantages over the kids of his own age and made him stand out (as a man playing against boys)

It also meant he never had to fight or compete to be able to play

I think this became a disadvantage when he stepped up the levels and became to play against men, top level athlete men at that and he no longer had those natural physical advantages and had never learned to use his physicality against people as strong or stronger than him because he'd never had to growing up (like never having to fight to win a header because you're a foot taller than the rest)

Edwards doesn't seem to have those attributed, he seems quite small and reliant on his skill - which I believe will stand him in good stead and set him apart from the likes of Bostock

Of course no youngster is guaranteed to make it, the success rate is very low and its so competitive what with the amount of incoming transfers at EPL clubs. I don't think Bostock's example should be applied to him though (for the reasons I mentioned), he looks a very skilled and talented player and if he's smart he will see that currently Spurs is a good place to be for a youngster aspiring to play EPL first team football, the allure of Barca must be tempting but I think it would be a bad decision for him to change so many variables in his life and more to Spain when he needs to develop (stay in his comfort zone and follow the path of so many other youngsters at Spurs who are now in or around first team top flight football)

 

[nightgoat]

Leave us for Chelsea or Man City who don't have our reputation for bringing youth through....surely he and his family must look at the next 3-4 years as being crucial in his development and elect to stay with us

Didn't someone on here say that Man City had offered him and his family a load of money but his parents basically told them to bugger off?

 

[Blake Griffin]

i think he'll be looking for assurances that the club won't hold him back if he continues to progress.

 

[Shea]

Didn't someone on here say that Man City had offered him and his family a load of money but his parents basically told them to bugger off?

Well that would go against the "gentleman's agreement" but I really wouldn't think City or Chelsea would care about that if they particularly wanted a player

For any youngster though the trade off between short term financial gain and stunting your long term career progression by joining someone like Chelsea or City at this stage must be seen as a gamble not worth making

So many talented young English players have gone to those two in recent years and more or less fallen off the map, little to no chance of making it to their first teams and although its not a given I'd suggest many of them would have had more successful careers and become better players had they not taken the money so quickly and instead focused on developing with their clubs and becoming the best players they can

Jack Rodwell a perfect example

I think it would also be a mistake for him to go Barca, even though they have an excellent reputation for developing youth. He'd have to adapt to a new environment, new language and culture, leave his friends and family behind. Established pros have found that hard to do let alone a 16 year old kid

I think changing so many variables is a mistake for any promising kid if they're already in a place that is good for their development, better to stay where they are and continue doing what is working. Develop in to the best player they can and go on to have the most successful career in the long term rather than short term reward at the cost of their long term development

Of course every case is potentially different but for my money that's the best thing as a blue print for a young players development

 

[nightgoat]

Well that would go against the "gentleman's agreement" but I really wouldn't think City or Chelsea would care about that if they particularly wanted a player

For any youngster though the trade off between short term financial gain and stunting your long term career progression by joining someone like Chelsea or City at this stage must be seen as a gamble not worth making

So many talented young English players have gone to those two in recent years and more or less fallen off the map, little to no chance of making it to their first teams and although its not a given I'd suggest many of them would have had more successful careers and become better players had they not taken the money so quickly and instead focused on developing with their clubs and becoming the best players they can

Jack Rodwell a perfect example

I think it would also be a mistake for him to go Barca, even though they have an excellent reputation for developing youth. He'd have to adapt to a new environment, new language and culture, leave his friends and family behind. Established pros have found that hard to do let alone a 16 year old kid

I think changing so many variables is a mistake for any promising kid if they're already in a place that is good for their development, better to stay where they are and continue doing what is working. Develop in to the best player they can and go on to have the most successful career in the long term rather than short term reward at the cost of their long term development

Of course every case is potentially different but for my money that's the best thing as a blue print for a young players development

I think the only young English player who has gone to Chelsea or City in the last decade or so and actually been a success has been Joe Hart. Pretty much every other player has been an overwhelming failure.

 

[Shea]

I think the only young English player who has gone to Chelsea or City in the last decade or so and actually been a success has been Joe Hart. Pretty much every other player has been an overwhelming failure.

Wasn't hart brought to city long before the billionaire oil take over? If so I wouldn't even include him