Managing Director Football: Fabio Paratici

[fishhhandaricecake]

Hope we can still bring in an AM and CB before end of this window, if so I think conte will have that quality depth of 22 players he’s asked for.

 

[spursfan77]

I am sure it was said on here that at Juve one of his problems was moving on players. I don't know the circumstances but we do have a problem getting rid of the players we don't want (like a lot of teams). He did well in January with getting rid of Dele and the late loans. I wonder if we will see a similar pattern here in 2/3 weeks time.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I am sure it was said on here that at Juve one of his problems was moving on players. I don't know the circumstances but we do have a problem getting rid of the players we don't want (like a lot of teams). He did well in January with getting rid of Dele and the late loans. I wonder if we will see a similar pattern here in 2/3 weeks time.

We’ve struggled to sell these plays for a while. The good thing this time is that we’ve made it very clear to them they aren’t in the managers plans so forcing their hand a bit. I’m confident reggi Ndombele Lo Celso and winks will all be gone by end of the window, we have offers for most of them just not at the values we want, as it gets towards end of the window those offers will likely increase, if not then we will probably take what is on the table.

 

[sam_mason]

I am sure it was said on here that at Juve one of his problems was moving on players. I don't know the circumstances but we do have a problem getting rid of the players we don't want (like a lot of teams). He did well in January with getting rid of Dele and the late loans. I wonder if we will see a similar pattern here in 2/3 weeks time.

I suppose if you are one of the teams below the absolute top tier, you have two choices, you either put everything you have into young talented players and hope it goes well ( in which case you expect a certain amount of buy low (ish)sell high, or buy low and lose everything) or you try to pick up talented players who haven't worked well at top clubs or others at your sort of level (in which case you probably have a lot of buy high, lose everything, but with with higher success rate and not much to sell on ).

Either way if you're going to do it successfully you have to be very savvy. Not really a sellers market I'd have thought.

It's very interesting that both Chelsea and Arsenal have gone for not cheap players from City, which City were happy to let go, this season. A change in tactic for both clubs (and for different reasons).

Anyway, I don't think not selling players is necessarily some thing to hold over partici to be honest.

 

[spids]

He's had a blinder

My only question, when you consider value for money, is whether Richarlison will show himself to be worth 60. Otherwise it's a stellar list

I think he’ll only score 6 or 7 goals, but will ultimately be a successful signing as we’ll cement a top 4 place and potentially win a trophy. He will not start 5 games on the bounce. He will not be the focal point of our attack. But he will allow Son and Kane to be rested at key points and help us see out games. For us, he is worth £50m as a squad player.

 

[Jamturk]

I think he’ll only score 6 or 7 goals, but will ultimately be a successful signing as we’ll cement a top 4 place and potentially win a trophy. He will not start 5 games on the bounce. He will not be the focal point of our attack. But he will allow Son and Kane to be rested at key points and help us see out games. For us, he is worth £50m as a squad player.

He doesn't need to be on the pitch to start realising his value, Just him chomping at the bit in training and on the bench will raise the current top 3's game a few extra percent.

 

[DJS]

Just hope we keep him.

Always remember how happy I was with Arnesen and then Chelsea poached him after only being with us a very short time.

Hopefully though difference now is that we have a far superior stadium and training facilities, so have the infrastructure in place for Paratici to work with.

 

[Jamturk]

Just hope we keep him.

Always remember how happy I was with Arnesen and then Chelsea poached him after only being with us a very short time.

Hopefully though difference now is that we have a far superior stadium and training facilities, so have the infrastructure in place for Paratici to work with.

I think he along with Conte feel that they can create history and leave a real legacy with us, they have great power and the challenge they face is something they are relishing.

 

[PT]

I am sure it was said on here that at Juve one of his problems was moving on players. I don't know the circumstances but we do have a problem getting rid of the players we don't want (like a lot of teams). He did well in January with getting rid of Dele and the late loans. I wonder if we will see a similar pattern here in 2/3 weeks time.

The main issue historically was clawing back what was invested in the unwanted player and then th next hurdle was the club being able to afford the salary that the player was on at Spurs. This is the N’Dombele issue with European clubs.

 

[JCRD]

The main issue historically was clawing back what was invested in the unwanted player and then th next hurdle was the club being able to afford the salary that the player was on at Spurs. This is the N’Dombele issue with European clubs.

I think the real root cause is our recruitment - bringing in players who have not shown it for us. What we are experiencing now is the legacy of bad recruitment. We aldo dont sell players we want to keep - Kane, Hugo, Dier, Son et al.

Hopefully now we have a solid squad, if we ever did want to sell someone, they would command a larger fee because there would be a bigger demand - Kulu, Romero, Bentancur, Bissouma et al. Not that we would sell them unless they really did kick up a huge fuss.

 

[dontcallme]

I am sure it was said on here that at Juve one of his problems was moving on players. I don't know the circumstances but we do have a problem getting rid of the players we don't want (like a lot of teams). He did well in January with getting rid of Dele and the late loans. I wonder if we will see a similar pattern here in 2/3 weeks time.

I could be wrong as I am only reading the situation from the outside. But my view is the big difference with us doing deals for outgoing players have changed in that Paratici appears very active in looking for clubs for them.

Before him it felt like it was clear our surplus players were available but we were sitting around waiting for offers, that never came.

It seems to me that Paratici is in contact with clubs trying to agree deals to get them off the books. If we can't get offers then he looks for the best that we can get, often a loan.

Before Paratici we never paid off a players contract like we did with Aurier or agreed a deal as strangely structured as Alli going to Everton.

Forget Redknapp, Paratici is the wheeler dealer.

 

[Trix]

Great post bang on mate

Well if you think because he only started on the first of June, that he had no input prior to that I guess it is.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Well if you think because he only started on the first of June, that he had no input prior to that I guess it is.

Fact remains he wasn’t working for us until that point so the majority of the managerial hunt farce blame shouldn’t be apportioned to him.

That being said if Gattuso was one of his first choices that’s not good and if he genuinely believed Nuno was a good idea and not just a best of the last girls on the dancefloor then that is also concerning judgement.

However he rectified it with getting Conte in who he works brilliantly with in partnership with so let’s enjoy that and focus on the positives right now.

 

[MightySpurs]

You can blame him for ultimately bringing in Nuno but the manager search was a farce long before he started working for us.

Maybe all this was (half way) intended by Paratrici.
If we had gone with a bigger name, we would been “stuck” or forced to give him time….
He knew very well that Conte was still available- and probably had that in mind when trying Nuno.
Also made it easier for Conte to come in with absolutely no pressure in the middle of the season.

 

[Aphex]

Maybe all this was (half way) intended by Paratrici.
If we had gone with a bigger name, we would been “stuck” or forced to give him time….
He knew very well that Conte was still available- and probably had that in mind when trying Nuno.
Also made it easier for Conte to come in with absolutely no pressure in the middle of the season.

There just isn’t that many top managers out there. We obviously tried for Conte and he turned us down in the summer, so the other options after that were the likes of Poch,
Ten Hag, Gattuso, Fonseca and Nuno.

You look at United and they had to go for Ten Hag as there aren’t any available elite managers, they are all punts.

So yeah I do accept the manager search was a farce but also, without Conte I think every manager would have been way off his level and underwhelming. Nuno was a bad pick but I doubt the likes of ETH or Gattuso would have been any better.

We are so lucky to have Conte now. There are only a few coaches in the world at that level and all the others are at elite clubs already.

 

[Tucker]

I could be wrong as I am only reading the situation from the outside. But my view is the big difference with us doing deals for outgoing players have changed in that Paratici appears very active in looking for clubs for them.

Before him it felt like it was clear our surplus players were available but we were sitting around waiting for offers, that never came.

It seems to me that Paratici is in contact with clubs trying to agree deals to get them off the books. If we can't get offers then he looks for the best that we can get, often a loan.

Before Paratici we never paid off a players contract like we did with Aurier or agreed a deal as strangely structured as Alli going to Everton.

Forget Redknapp, Paratici is the wheeler dealer.

I think this is highlighted by the clubs our players are linked to. Tanganga is linked with a whole host of Italian clubs. We’ve hear about potential deals for Lo Celso at Fiorentina, Winks at Sampdoria, and Ndombele at Napoli. Fabio is clearly shopping them around to his contacts.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Very early days but looking like we possibly dodged a bullet with the one many many of us wanted in Ten Haag.

 

[greavesy461]

Very early days but looking like we possibly dodged a bullet with the one many many of us wanted in Ten Haag.

Very early days as you say but he doesn’t seem to have a natural instinct for what is required in PL. He will need to learn fast but hopefully for us not too fast. Things can change quickly in football as we well know!

 

[Roberts84]

Very early days but looking like we possibly dodged a bullet with the one many many of us wanted in Ten Haag.

Possibly but don’t underestimate the mess Utd are in. They’ve spent shed loads on transfer fees and high wages in over recent years on players that don’t fit the coaches system. The players also seem to rule the roost. All managers will struggle at Utd at the moment

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I’ve said before I’m really glad we hired Fabio, he’ll have brought a lot of good habits from his experience of building Juventus into a winning machine and I think he’s the best DofF we’ve had who has finally been given pretty much full authority on the football decision and strategy etc, however also don’t underestimate how much of our positive trajectory is because of Conte.

Conte and Paratici together are the dream team, Conte and Paratici at Juve worked so we’ll Conte and other managers at Juve have been hit and miss.

Long may this match made in heaven work for our beautiful football club. Sprinkle some Italian style and passion to our great clubs class and history and we could be onto something special here ?? ⚽️ ?.