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Managing Director Football: Fabio Paratici

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wrd

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Speaking of goalie backups I was a bit disappointed we didn't bring in that Savin. Name alone was the perfect fit.
 

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I think 7 is minimum required in the summer. As you have to assume we will move a few more on. Ideally for the conte system. We need

1 x GK back up.
2 x RWB
1 x LCB
1 x CB
1 x CM
1 x CF

You have to assume that in the summer Rodon, tanganga, Doherty, Bergwijn at a minimum will be moved on. Wouldn't be surprised to see Emerson, sanchez, 1 of winks or PEH, and sess or reggie also moved on. I think he will want more dependable options in those positions. Suppose it all depends if we get top 4. If we do. We would need 7 signings if we were hoping to compete. Players like Moura PEH Winks Sess would need to be upgraded if we really want to be at the top table
7 is such overkill. Why do we need 2 more CBs? We only need 1 RWB, Emerson would be a really strong backup.
 

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While I don't disagree I think we'll go big for Torres and that'll be all in regards to CBs. Dier's been playing great, don't see that as a big need to spend money on considering the other big roles we need to fill.
Oh yeah it would certainly be a flourish rather than a necessity but with his contract situation, it would be fantastic to have that quality in depth but not something to expect.
 

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I think 7 is minimum required in the summer. As you have to assume we will move a few more on. Ideally for the conte system. We need

1 x GK back up.
2 x RWB
1 x LCB
1 x CB
1 x CM
1 x CF

You have to assume that in the summer Rodon, tanganga, Doherty, Bergwijn at a minimum will be moved on. Wouldn't be surprised to see Emerson, sanchez, 1 of winks or PEH, and sess or reggie also moved on. I think he will want more dependable options in those positions. Suppose it all depends if we get top 4. If we do. We would need 7 signings if we were hoping to compete. Players like Moura PEH Winks Sess would need to be upgraded if we really want to be at the top table

7 as a minimum? So in your head you’re thinking it should be 8 or 9 new signings? You’re going to incredibly disappointed if don’t think we’ll sign 4 or 5 as an absolute maximum. We’re not Man City you can’t have two fantastic players in every position. You’re always going to have players that if had a blank cheque you’d upgrade but they’re players who can do a job if called upon. There’s players who are playing for us now who are perfectly fine as backup options.
 

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7 is such overkill. Why do we need 2 more CBs? We only need 1 RWB, Emerson would be a really strong backup.

Well if we are going to play 3 at the back have to assume rodon and Tanganga are both going. That leaves us with 4 CBs. We were linked with a right sided CB this window and Sanchez was linked with leaving in the summer. When I say 7 players I mean with players leaving. If we sell 2 or 3 CBs then we would need 2. As for RB the fact he bombed Emerson out the side then played Tanganga there against Chelsea suggests he has no faith in Emerson. We've all said Emersons weakness is going forward and he refused to play him there in a traditional back 4. We have been linked heavily with Djed Spence. He's not coming to be first choice. So I'd assume the thinking would be. Sign a 1st choice RWB and have a very talented youngster as Back up. We need a back up Keeper. So that's 4 signings. We need a CF that's 5. Have to assume bergwijn will leave in the summer. He'll need to be replaced. That's 6. We've just let dele gio gil ndombele all go. And signed 2 players to replace the 4 we have moved out. Without addressing 4 positions on the pitch GK, CB, RWB, CF.
 

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We had 4 big holes in the squad coming into January

Centre back
Right wing back
Attacking/creative midfield
Second striker

None of these were addressed.

instead we signed a guy to play in the only position we’ve been well stocked in this season (defensive/box to box midfield) and Kulusevski who, whilst will hopefully be an upgrade on Lucas, was not a player we were desperate for.

Big summer coming up for Paratici. And i’m nervous about him I won’t lie.
 

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I think 7 is minimum required in the summer. As you have to assume we will move a few more on. Ideally for the conte system. We need

1 x GK back up.
2 x RWB
1 x LCB
1 x CB
1 x CM
1 x CF

You have to assume that in the summer Rodon, tanganga, Doherty, Bergwijn at a minimum will be moved on. Wouldn't be surprised to see Emerson, sanchez, 1 of winks or PEH, and sess or reggie also moved on. I think he will want more dependable options in those positions. Suppose it all depends if we get top 4. If we do. We would need 7 signings if we were hoping to compete. Players like Moura PEH Winks Sess would need to be upgraded if we really want to be at the top table
Agree with this and think we will bring 5 in.

In contes first season at Juve he signed 10 players… summer will be a huge overhaul as conte will want us to be very competitive asap.
 

wrd

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We had 4 big holes in the squad coming into January

Centre back
Right wing back
Attacking/creative midfield
Second striker

None of these were addressed.

instead we signed a guy to play in the only position we’ve been well stocked in this season (defensive/box to box midfield) and Kulusevski who, whilst will hopefully be an upgrade on Lucas, was not a player we were desperate for.

Big summer coming up for Paratici. And i’m nervous about him I won’t lie.

I don't see how we can look at the 4 players that Conte no longer wanted and then say a hole was an attacking/creative midfield player because quite clearly that isn't what he's looking for from midfield. It seemed agreed that whilst they wanted an LCB that that would be shelved until the summer. Then we wanted a RWB, a midfielder and a forward, we did 2/3 of those things. Kuluveski has himself said he is more of a 10 and he played as a 2nd striker for Juventus initially and on the wing at Parma, he seems to fit what Conte was looking for in the short term from a forward. Midfield it's quite clear what type of midfielder Conte values and we've signed another one.

RWB is the disappointment but if the noises we're hearing about Lamptey are correct, wouldn't you rather wait in the summer to get him rather than sign one for the sake of it and then be in the situation we've been in with that position since Walker left where we keep signing new ones who aren't up to the standard? Personally I think we're going to get creative and I can see Moura ending up at RWB as he has the attributes and with Kulusveski coming in and Bergwijn hopefully being reborn maybe we can figure something out there because Moura has similar traits to what Traore does anyway.
 

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We had 4 big holes in the squad coming into January

Centre back
Right wing back
Attacking/creative midfield
Second striker

None of these were addressed.

instead we signed a guy to play in the only position we’ve been well stocked in this season (defensive/box to box midfield) and Kulusevski who, whilst will hopefully be an upgrade on Lucas, was not a player we were desperate for.

Big summer coming up for Paratici. And i’m nervous about him I won’t lie.
Completely fair analysis tbh and let’s see how we look after next summer although I think we did try for RWB but didn’t get our intended targets.

I think Kulusevski adds much needed creativity and depth to the front line which was a bit hole and Bentancur is an upgrade on the 3 midfielders that went out, he’s better and more suited to contes system.

I don’t agree CB was a priority tbh, once Romero is back, a back 3 of Romero, Dier, Davies should do for now with Sanchez as decent cover to step in. Tanganga and Rodon are poor but shouldn’t be needed much as we are only in one competition aside from the PL.

RWB agree that was a massive massive priority but I think we did try but couldn’t get a target worth getting so will wait for summer to get who we want.

Attacking creative midfield : you say none of the 4 areas were addressed but i think Kulusveski fits this bill. If you mean a creative CM then we’ll conte doesn’t really use those in his system.

Second Striker I 100% agree we lack this and I was hoping we’d get Morata, however I think the plan for now is that Bergwijn, Son and Lucas will all cover for Kane and again as we are only in PL and FA cup we should be ok depth wise. If we were in Europe as well still then I’d say we were pretty fucked with Kane and no actual proper back up striker still.

So I agree with some of your points but I think there is a plan behind it and we’ve seen that many other top6 teams have struggled to really sign anyone of note aside from Liverpool signing Diaz so all in all I think we’ve done quite well and I’m sure conte would’ve been involved in all the different scenarios which were developing.
 

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I don't see how we can look at the 4 players that Conte no longer wanted and then say a hole was an attacking/creative midfield player because quite clearly that isn't what he's looking for from midfield. It seemed agreed that whilst they wanted an LCB that that would be shelved until the summer. Then we wanted a RWB, a midfielder and a forward, we did 2/3 of those things. Kuluveski has himself said he is more of a 10 and he played as a 2nd striker for Juventus initially and on the wing at Parma, he seems to fit what Conte was looking for in the short term from a forward. Midfield it's quite clear what type of midfielder Conte values and we've signed another one.

RWB is the disappointment but if the noises we're hearing about Lamptey are correct, wouldn't you rather wait in the summer to get him rather than sign one for the sake of it and then be in the situation we've been in with that position since Walker left where we keep signing new ones who aren't up to the standard? Personally I think we're going to get creative and I can see Moura ending up at RWB as he has the attributes and with Kulusveski coming in and Bergwijn hopefully being reborn maybe we can figure something out there because Moura has similar traits to what Traore does anyway.
Exactly this!
 

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In regards to midfield he's making do with what he has rather than this being his prefered types. Check his previous teams.
 

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We had 4 big holes in the squad coming into January

Centre back
Right wing back
Attacking/creative midfield
Second striker

None of these were addressed.

instead we signed a guy to play in the only position we’ve been well stocked in this season (defensive/box to box midfield) and Kulusevski who, whilst will hopefully be an upgrade on Lucas, was not a player we were desperate for.

Big summer coming up for Paratici. And i’m nervous about him I won’t lie.

It’s amazing some people are giving him a free pass on failing to get even one of those positions sorted. Sure set things up for the summer but we also live in the present. We need another striker for example, Kane gets injured or tired we are in a real bind. Those of us who go to games and pay for our season tickets want results today, we don’t want to have to wait yet another season to achieve something. Top 4 is perfectly achievable and I just want the manager given more of a chance to get it. If we get injuries to son and Kane we won’t get top four it is that simple. It’s really really basic.
 

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I’d argue there is a lack of understanding of the reality from a lot on here and a lot of moaning for moanings sake or being negative without any real justification.

I think its partly due to mistakes levy has made in the past and people not forgiving or forgetting that which is fair enough, it’s also partly due to how we’ve fallen the last 2-3 years and also partly due to pandemic and lots of people being stuck at home and having gone through hard times so are hyper focused on Spurs.

Whatever the reason, sensible constructive criticism or opinions are fine but a ton of people on here are for sure seeing the negative spin in absolutely everything, there is also an absolute ton of impatience even though our manager has repeatedly said it’ll take a good few windows to sort us out.

20 days into this window many were absolutely losing their shit that we’d not signed anyone and claimed we had no back-ups or alternatives lined up and would end up with 0 signings but yet again their panicking was pointless and wrong.

Same thing happening in match threads, like against Leicester when conte picked the 3-5-2 with a ‘top defensive and shit line-up where Kane would be starved and we’d not create a chance’ we then go on to have near 30 shots and win an exciting game. So fine they can have their opinions but it’s tiring reading the same posters just being negative and moaning about everything and anything, it’s not balanced or rational.

Let’s take Paratici signing two good players from Juve, some are moaning that he doesn’t do his own scouting and that they’re juves casts offs and not very good etc (likely never having seen either of them play) BUT if we didn’t sign those two players and they say went to Arsenal, you can bet your bottom dollar that those same posters would be slagging Paratici off for not signing them and letting them go to a rival. THAT is the type of thing which is so annoying as it’s just a negative mindset and glass half empty approach to every single detail, it’s not healthy, it’s annoying and it’s boring.

Your basic premise is flawed. You already have assumed that people are ",moaning" about players from Juve "having likely never seen them play". How on Earth would you know who has seen them play or not? You've simply put your own bias in it to augment your own jaundiced view.

Just let people have their own views...even if they were different from yours.
 

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I don't see how we can look at the 4 players that Conte no longer wanted and then say a hole was an attacking/creative midfield player because quite clearly that isn't what he's looking for from midfield. It seemed agreed that whilst they wanted an LCB that that would be shelved until the summer. Then we wanted a RWB, a midfielder and a forward, we did 2/3 of those things. Kuluveski has himself said he is more of a 10 and he played as a 2nd striker for Juventus initially and on the wing at Parma, he seems to fit what Conte was looking for in the short term from a forward. Midfield it's quite clear what type of midfielder Conte values and we've signed another one.

RWB is the disappointment but if the noises we're hearing about Lamptey are correct, wouldn't you rather wait in the summer to get him rather than sign one for the sake of it and then be in the situation we've been in with that position since Walker left where we keep signing new ones who aren't up to the standard? Personally I think we're going to get creative and I can see Moura ending up at RWB as he has the attributes and with Kulusveski coming in and Bergwijn hopefully being reborn maybe we can figure something out there because Moura has similar traits to what Traore does anyway.
Where’s this then? ??
 

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Some clued up Man United journo's said our interest is more concrete and there was a bit of talk on here but it's just noise atm.
I agree I would prefer to wait for him, if we can get him.
 

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Some clued up Man United journo's said our interest is more concrete and there was a bit of talk on here but it's just noise atm.
I think Romano has mentioned it as well on streams/interviews and said more for the Summer as a target. I think Lamptey & Pau Torres is who we'll target to finish out the back 5.
 
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