Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

[Col_M]

Any idea what the psychological play with the suit was and the theory behind it?

I asked myself the same thing. Has to be something behind it.

 

[PLTuck]

Quoting before it's moved!!

Goddamn my ADHD addled brain and multiple SC tabs open

 

[Col_M]

I was wondering, has there been any comments from Rangers fans about Ange? Do they hate him, or can they see beyond the rivalry?

 

[Col_M]

This might already have been shared, but sharing it anyway. Before you read it, Explain to me what this feeling is where I feel emotionally proud and close to bursting into tears. Is there a name for it?

Anyway, here is the article from the Metro (7 June) written by a Celtic Fan/Journalist:

Ange Postecoglou will have Premier League and Spurs snobs eating their words​

We Never Stop.

That’s the Ange Postecoglou mantra – and Celtic even released a DVD of the same name after he produced a domestic double in his debut first season, which he followed up with a treble, and a team that never stopped scoring, netting 114 league goals in 38 games.

But do you know what else never stops? The ill-informed, sneering and delusional contempt voiced about anyone who succeeds in Scottish football and then makes the move south of the border.

Whether it’s the ‘footy banter’ accounts or the supposedly serious pundits on TV and radio, it seems whenever someone from the SPFL goes to the Premier League, they are subjected to the same dismissive treatment.

Even when it comes to appraising a special talent. And I can tell you from watching his teams first-hand, that’s exactly what Ange Postecoglou is. He transformed Celtic.

He will soon have all of the angry Spurs fans, arrogant Premier League pundits or ignorant YouTube mouthpieces who are currently scoffing at his appointment, eating their words.

A cursory scroll of social media is all that is needed to show the snobbery from the English media and Premier League fans that I find nauseating to the point of infuriating.

It’s precisely the kind of reason why I, and many other Scottish football fans, love seeing the English national team lose in major tournaments.

It’s also been tiresome seeing a debate about whether Tottenham are ‘bigger’ than Celtic.

I can end that debate – they are not and never will be.

Postecoglou’s new role might mean a bigger salary and a bigger platform but not a bigger club, not by any stretch of the imagination.

I’ve been a Celtic fan since the 90s, when we had the financial might to at least compete with Premier League clubs for signings and seeing the response to Tottenham’s announcement reminded me of hearing pundits and fans declare, in the same derisive vein, that ‘Henrik Larsson couldn’t do it outside Scotland.’

Just ask Arsenal fans, who will remember Thierry Henry saying Larsson was the ‘difference maker’ after the Swede turned the 2006 Champions League Final on its head with two assists from the bench for Barcelona – or the entire Manchester United dressing room who gave him a standing ovation after his final game for the club.

Both of those performances came when he was a veteran, winding down his career – imagine what he could’ve done at his peak.

Ange Postecoglou, at 57, is also a veteran but I would argue he is currently at his peak, despite his journey to the top being something of a slow burn.

The reason for that is he has had to prove himself by delivering success on three continents (how many managers can say that?) to even get a sniff at a Premier League job.

Throughout his career, he has proven people wrong. I have no doubt he will do so once again.

When he joined Celtic in 2021 to little fanfare, an Australian media commentator tweeted that despite his lack of name value, Postecoglou was going to ‘rock the world’ of Celtic fans. He did exactly that. And then some.

He was embraced as a part of the Celtic family – and I’m certain he won’t get that treatment from Spurs fans, they’re just not in the same stratosphere as the Celtic faithful – despite his own admission that his appointment was thought of by many as a joke.

He came in with Celtic in crisis, after the chronic mismanagement of a controversial, underperforming coach in Neil Lennon and unpopular CEO in Peter Lawwell.

Sound familiar, Spurs fans?

A team that was on its knees, and a squad that was dysfunctional and in bits, was quickly turned into an all-consuming monster that destroyed all in its path.

His vibrant, energetic, joyful brand of fitba (to use the proper Scottish parlance) entertained me far more than Brendan Rodgers’ more sideways-based approach ever did, regardless of its success.


A key element in building that team and style was due to recruiting gems from, primarily, Japan where he had worked previously, and that could be exactly what Spurs need after the club has shown little imagination in the transfer market in recent years.

If Harry Kane departs, they may have the ideal man to help contribute to a better rebuild than they managed after the Gareth Bale sale.

For Celtic fans, although we’re gutted at his departure, he leaves with our best wishes. He made us believe again, that our club can succeed in Europe playing a forward-thinking brand of football.

I saw the evidence first hand at five of our six Champions League games this past season and only fine margins in games denied us a much better return in his first foray.

I genuinely think that under Postecoglou we would have competed for a last 16 berth in next season’s Champions League, playing a brand of progressive and attractive football.

It’s sad we won’t get to see that move forward on the biggest stage happen now, but that would probably have been the ceiling given the disparity in resources financially between Celtic and teams like Spurs.

And that’s the crux of why this move happened.

The Premier League’s excesses of cash have distorted football grossly and Spurs, enjoying that TV money, which helped pay for their space age stadium, have been beneficiaries of elevating themselves to being within touching distance of the very top tier of clubs in the world.


All of that despite winning *checks notes* two trophies in 32 years and the domestic title a mere twice. History, prestige, brand identity, support, none of these matter as long as you have money to challenge at the top table – and that’s why Celtic will always lose talent to teams like Spurs despite being a far bigger club.

Far too many of those supposedly ‘informed’ types claiming the Australian will flop are hyper-focused on what’s happening up at the top end of the game.

So to all those writing the new Tottenham boss off in lieu of actually engaging with what he has managed to achieve in his career, I urge you to step out of the Premier League bubble and actually pay attention to someone’s story and track record before writing them off.

Scottish football exports from Virgil van Dijk – probably the best defender in the world before being derailed by injuries – to a little known manager called Sir Alex Ferguson have all been doubted when moving down south before ramming that success down detractors’ throats.

So I fully expect Ange to ‘rock the world’ of those querying his chances – although the influence of Daniel Levy will be a huge factor.

And that, at least, is one thing Spurs fans and I can agree on.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Meh - everything I read about Ange's move to Scotland was that the Scottish fans were every bit derisory about Ange coming from Japan.

Its hard to take their whining seriously now,

 

[muppetman]

This might already have been shared, but sharing it anyway. Before you read it, Explain to me what this feeling is where I feel emotionally proud and close to bursting into tears. Is there a name for it?

Anyway, here is the article from the Metro (7 June) written by a Celtic Fan/Journalist:

Ange Postecoglou will have Premier League and Spurs snobs eating their words​

We Never Stop.

That’s the Ange Postecoglou mantra – and Celtic even released a DVD of the same name after he produced a domestic double in his debut first season, which he followed up with a treble, and a team that never stopped scoring, netting 114 league goals in 38 games.

But do you know what else never stops? The ill-informed, sneering and delusional contempt voiced about anyone who succeeds in Scottish football and then makes the move south of the border.

Whether it’s the ‘footy banter’ accounts or the supposedly serious pundits on TV and radio, it seems whenever someone from the SPFL goes to the Premier League, they are subjected to the same dismissive treatment.

Even when it comes to appraising a special talent. And I can tell you from watching his teams first-hand, that’s exactly what Ange Postecoglou is. He transformed Celtic.

He will soon have all of the angry Spurs fans, arrogant Premier League pundits or ignorant YouTube mouthpieces who are currently scoffing at his appointment, eating their words.

A cursory scroll of social media is all that is needed to show the snobbery from the English media and Premier League fans that I find nauseating to the point of infuriating.

It’s precisely the kind of reason why I, and many other Scottish football fans, love seeing the English national team lose in major tournaments.

It’s also been tiresome seeing a debate about whether Tottenham are ‘bigger’ than Celtic.

I can end that debate – they are not and never will be.

Postecoglou’s new role might mean a bigger salary and a bigger platform but not a bigger club, not by any stretch of the imagination.

I’ve been a Celtic fan since the 90s, when we had the financial might to at least compete with Premier League clubs for signings and seeing the response to Tottenham’s announcement reminded me of hearing pundits and fans declare, in the same derisive vein, that ‘Henrik Larsson couldn’t do it outside Scotland.’

Just ask Arsenal fans, who will remember Thierry Henry saying Larsson was the ‘difference maker’ after the Swede turned the 2006 Champions League Final on its head with two assists from the bench for Barcelona – or the entire Manchester United dressing room who gave him a standing ovation after his final game for the club.

Both of those performances came when he was a veteran, winding down his career – imagine what he could’ve done at his peak.

Ange Postecoglou, at 57, is also a veteran but I would argue he is currently at his peak, despite his journey to the top being something of a slow burn.

The reason for that is he has had to prove himself by delivering success on three continents (how many managers can say that?) to even get a sniff at a Premier League job.

Throughout his career, he has proven people wrong. I have no doubt he will do so once again.

When he joined Celtic in 2021 to little fanfare, an Australian media commentator tweeted that despite his lack of name value, Postecoglou was going to ‘rock the world’ of Celtic fans. He did exactly that. And then some.

He was embraced as a part of the Celtic family – and I’m certain he won’t get that treatment from Spurs fans, they’re just not in the same stratosphere as the Celtic faithful – despite his own admission that his appointment was thought of by many as a joke.

He came in with Celtic in crisis, after the chronic mismanagement of a controversial, underperforming coach in Neil Lennon and unpopular CEO in Peter Lawwell.

Sound familiar, Spurs fans?

A team that was on its knees, and a squad that was dysfunctional and in bits, was quickly turned into an all-consuming monster that destroyed all in its path.

His vibrant, energetic, joyful brand of fitba (to use the proper Scottish parlance) entertained me far more than Brendan Rodgers’ more sideways-based approach ever did, regardless of its success.


A key element in building that team and style was due to recruiting gems from, primarily, Japan where he had worked previously, and that could be exactly what Spurs need after the club has shown little imagination in the transfer market in recent years.

If Harry Kane departs, they may have the ideal man to help contribute to a better rebuild than they managed after the Gareth Bale sale.

For Celtic fans, although we’re gutted at his departure, he leaves with our best wishes. He made us believe again, that our club can succeed in Europe playing a forward-thinking brand of football.

I saw the evidence first hand at five of our six Champions League games this past season and only fine margins in games denied us a much better return in his first foray.

I genuinely think that under Postecoglou we would have competed for a last 16 berth in next season’s Champions League, playing a brand of progressive and attractive football.

It’s sad we won’t get to see that move forward on the biggest stage happen now, but that would probably have been the ceiling given the disparity in resources financially between Celtic and teams like Spurs.

And that’s the crux of why this move happened.

The Premier League’s excesses of cash have distorted football grossly and Spurs, enjoying that TV money, which helped pay for their space age stadium, have been beneficiaries of elevating themselves to being within touching distance of the very top tier of clubs in the world.


All of that despite winning *checks notes* two trophies in 32 years and the domestic title a mere twice. History, prestige, brand identity, support, none of these matter as long as you have money to challenge at the top table – and that’s why Celtic will always lose talent to teams like Spurs despite being a far bigger club.

Far too many of those supposedly ‘informed’ types claiming the Australian will flop are hyper-focused on what’s happening up at the top end of the game.

So to all those writing the new Tottenham boss off in lieu of actually engaging with what he has managed to achieve in his career, I urge you to step out of the Premier League bubble and actually pay attention to someone’s story and track record before writing them off.

Scottish football exports from Virgil van Dijk – probably the best defender in the world before being derailed by injuries – to a little known manager called Sir Alex Ferguson have all been doubted when moving down south before ramming that success down detractors’ throats.

So I fully expect Ange to ‘rock the world’ of those querying his chances – although the influence of Daniel Levy will be a huge factor.

And that, at least, is one thing Spurs fans and I can agree on.

Not so much a chip on the shoulder as a large boulder. . .

 

[Deathrod]

I asked myself the same thing. Has to be something behind it.

Maybe it’s just a respectful thing for a category A game?

 

[Col_M]

Maybe it’s just a respectful thing for a category A game?

don’t think he wore a suit v United.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

This might already have been shared, but sharing it anyway. Before you read it, Explain to me what this feeling is where I feel emotionally proud and close to bursting into tears. Is there a name for it?

Anyway, here is the article from the Metro (7 June) written by a Celtic Fan/Journalist:

Ange Postecoglou will have Premier League and Spurs snobs eating their words​

We Never Stop.

That’s the Ange Postecoglou mantra – and Celtic even released a DVD of the same name after he produced a domestic double in his debut first season, which he followed up with a treble, and a team that never stopped scoring, netting 114 league goals in 38 games.

But do you know what else never stops? The ill-informed, sneering and delusional contempt voiced about anyone who succeeds in Scottish football and then makes the move south of the border.

Whether it’s the ‘footy banter’ accounts or the supposedly serious pundits on TV and radio, it seems whenever someone from the SPFL goes to the Premier League, they are subjected to the same dismissive treatment.

Even when it comes to appraising a special talent. And I can tell you from watching his teams first-hand, that’s exactly what Ange Postecoglou is. He transformed Celtic.

He will soon have all of the angry Spurs fans, arrogant Premier League pundits or ignorant YouTube mouthpieces who are currently scoffing at his appointment, eating their words.

A cursory scroll of social media is all that is needed to show the snobbery from the English media and Premier League fans that I find nauseating to the point of infuriating.

It’s precisely the kind of reason why I, and many other Scottish football fans, love seeing the English national team lose in major tournaments.

It’s also been tiresome seeing a debate about whether Tottenham are ‘bigger’ than Celtic.

I can end that debate – they are not and never will be.

Postecoglou’s new role might mean a bigger salary and a bigger platform but not a bigger club, not by any stretch of the imagination.

I’ve been a Celtic fan since the 90s, when we had the financial might to at least compete with Premier League clubs for signings and seeing the response to Tottenham’s announcement reminded me of hearing pundits and fans declare, in the same derisive vein, that ‘Henrik Larsson couldn’t do it outside Scotland.’

Just ask Arsenal fans, who will remember Thierry Henry saying Larsson was the ‘difference maker’ after the Swede turned the 2006 Champions League Final on its head with two assists from the bench for Barcelona – or the entire Manchester United dressing room who gave him a standing ovation after his final game for the club.

Both of those performances came when he was a veteran, winding down his career – imagine what he could’ve done at his peak.

Ange Postecoglou, at 57, is also a veteran but I would argue he is currently at his peak, despite his journey to the top being something of a slow burn.

The reason for that is he has had to prove himself by delivering success on three continents (how many managers can say that?) to even get a sniff at a Premier League job.

Throughout his career, he has proven people wrong. I have no doubt he will do so once again.

When he joined Celtic in 2021 to little fanfare, an Australian media commentator tweeted that despite his lack of name value, Postecoglou was going to ‘rock the world’ of Celtic fans. He did exactly that. And then some.

He was embraced as a part of the Celtic family – and I’m certain he won’t get that treatment from Spurs fans, they’re just not in the same stratosphere as the Celtic faithful – despite his own admission that his appointment was thought of by many as a joke.

He came in with Celtic in crisis, after the chronic mismanagement of a controversial, underperforming coach in Neil Lennon and unpopular CEO in Peter Lawwell.

Sound familiar, Spurs fans?

A team that was on its knees, and a squad that was dysfunctional and in bits, was quickly turned into an all-consuming monster that destroyed all in its path.

His vibrant, energetic, joyful brand of fitba (to use the proper Scottish parlance) entertained me far more than Brendan Rodgers’ more sideways-based approach ever did, regardless of its success.


A key element in building that team and style was due to recruiting gems from, primarily, Japan where he had worked previously, and that could be exactly what Spurs need after the club has shown little imagination in the transfer market in recent years.

If Harry Kane departs, they may have the ideal man to help contribute to a better rebuild than they managed after the Gareth Bale sale.

For Celtic fans, although we’re gutted at his departure, he leaves with our best wishes. He made us believe again, that our club can succeed in Europe playing a forward-thinking brand of football.

I saw the evidence first hand at five of our six Champions League games this past season and only fine margins in games denied us a much better return in his first foray.

I genuinely think that under Postecoglou we would have competed for a last 16 berth in next season’s Champions League, playing a brand of progressive and attractive football.

It’s sad we won’t get to see that move forward on the biggest stage happen now, but that would probably have been the ceiling given the disparity in resources financially between Celtic and teams like Spurs.

And that’s the crux of why this move happened.

The Premier League’s excesses of cash have distorted football grossly and Spurs, enjoying that TV money, which helped pay for their space age stadium, have been beneficiaries of elevating themselves to being within touching distance of the very top tier of clubs in the world.


All of that despite winning *checks notes* two trophies in 32 years and the domestic title a mere twice. History, prestige, brand identity, support, none of these matter as long as you have money to challenge at the top table – and that’s why Celtic will always lose talent to teams like Spurs despite being a far bigger club.

Far too many of those supposedly ‘informed’ types claiming the Australian will flop are hyper-focused on what’s happening up at the top end of the game.

So to all those writing the new Tottenham boss off in lieu of actually engaging with what he has managed to achieve in his career, I urge you to step out of the Premier League bubble and actually pay attention to someone’s story and track record before writing them off.

Scottish football exports from Virgil van Dijk – probably the best defender in the world before being derailed by injuries – to a little known manager called Sir Alex Ferguson have all been doubted when moving down south before ramming that success down detractors’ throats.

So I fully expect Ange to ‘rock the world’ of those querying his chances – although the influence of Daniel Levy will be a huge factor.

And that, at least, is one thing Spurs fans and I can agree on.

The bitterness in that article put me off of all of the positive stuff in that piece.

easy to rack up 100s of trophies when you are only competing with one other team.

i like Celtic but the bloke who wrote that is a Berk.

 

[carmeldevil]

The bitterness in that article put me off of all of the positive stuff in that piece.

easy to rack up 100s of trophies when you are only competing with one other team.

i like Celtic but the bloke who wrote that is a Berk.

Fuck that guy.

 

[muppetman]

i like Celtic but the bloke who wrote that is a Berk.

Underused word - well done that man.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Underused word - well done that man.

It's not an everyday throw around but for some particularly special herberts it's the word of choice.

 

[PLTuck]

It's not an everyday throw around but for some particularly special herberts it's the word of choice.

You are on a roll mate. That's another I haven't heard in years. It was a favourite of my old nan!

 

[Deathrod]

don’t think he wore a suit v United.

Then I am devoid of idea’s…

 

[Yid-ol]

Then I am devoid of idea’s…

Maybe for only important games then?!

 

[Col_M]

Maybe for only important games then?!

looks like he wore them when Celtic played Rangers.

 

[theShiznit]

Don't they last for like 5 hours, before the party starts?! Seems like a punishment.

The Adam Sandler film is 1 hr 43 so... no?

 

[Snarfalicious]

What I'd give for All or Nothing : Spurs Series 2 this year...

 

[Japhet]

I was wondering, has there been any comments from Rangers fans about Ange? Do they hate him, or can they see beyond the rivalry?

I have a mate who's a Rangers fan (true), and they were just delighted when we got Ange. He said they all laughed when Celtic hired him but he immediately set about tearing up the SPL and rebuilding Celtic in no time at all. They're all pissing themselves laughing that Rodgers is back there now.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

I have a mate who's a Rangers fan (true), and they were just delighted when we got Ange. He said they all laughed when Celtic hired him but he immediately set about tearing up the SPL and rebuilding Celtic in no time at all. They're all pissing themselves laughing that Rodgers is back there now.

I was playing golf with a couple of Rangers season tickets holders yesterday, when I told them who I supported they were delighted. Ange had them seriously worried about Celtic doing the treble every year.