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Rocksuperstar

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Just seen Harland might be facing a charge from the FA over his reaction and social media post afterwards. I know the ref made a mistake, but players have been booked for dissent for much less than his (and other City player reactions) reaction. Mainly Maddison when he got booked for putting his hands on his head in disbelief in the Sheffield game!

On the radio last night and again this morning, pointing out that Haaland made a mistake earlier in the game, that players probably make a lot more mistakes in 90 minutes than any ref, but the refs don't give them shit for it.
 

Fitchspur

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On the radio last night and again this morning, pointing out that Haaland made a mistake earlier in the game, that players probably make a lot more mistakes in 90 minutes than any ref, but the refs don't give them shit for it.
Yup. Why were the other players not crowding round and screaming at Haaland for missing an open goal? That reaction was purely because they knew they'd fucked it themselves but now they have the excuse that its the refs fault, not theirs (not that its a guarantee that Grealish scores, but people seem to forget this..).
 

Trix

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Yup. Why were the other players not crowding round and screaming at Haaland for missing an open goal? That reaction was purely because they knew they'd fucked it themselves but now they have the excuse that its the refs fault, not theirs (not that its a guarantee that Grealish scores, but people seem to forget this..).
Trust me that won't be how Pep looks at it and I'm sure he'll be letting his players know that come training this morning.
 

Styopa

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On the radio last night and again this morning, pointing out that Haaland made a mistake earlier in the game, that players probably make a lot more mistakes in 90 minutes than any ref, but the refs don't give them shit for it.

The referees are also played substantially less than the players which in most walks of life means we should expect less from them.

In general the amount of attention paid to refereeing mistakes is totally disproportionate to their overall impact. It’s not like the table is grossly impacted by mistakes by officials. At the end of the season Man C will probably win the league because they have the best players whilst the likes of Sheffield United will be relegated because they have among the worst squad of players in the league.
 

muppetman

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The referees are also played substantially less than the players which in most walks of life means we should expect less from them.

In general the amount of attention paid to refereeing mistakes is totally disproportionate to their overall impact. It’s not like the table is grossly impacted by mistakes by officials. At the end of the season Man C will probably win the league because they have the best players whilst the likes of Sheffield United will be relegated because they have among the worst squad of players in the league.
The pressure on officials to be perfect is just a total waste of everyone's time as it's clearly not possible. Quite often even pundits and fans can't agree on what the "correct" decision was, so what chance one person in the middle, running about for 90 mins.

I watched the FA Cup game between Eastligh and Reading, a game played without VAR and it was a breath of fresh air. I think a couple of borderline decisions were possibly not entirely correct, but a decision was made and the game just flowed. No need for microscopic analysis on every single decision after either.

Much better for all concerned in my opinion. Bin VAR and accept that sometimes mistakes are made - it's a game after all, not a science.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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I watched the FA Cup game between Eastligh and Reading, a game played without VAR and it was a breath of fresh air. I think a couple of borderline decisions were possibly not entirely correct, but a decision was made and the game just flowed. No need for microscopic analysis on every single decision after either.

I think that his is a great point - and people sometimes forget - football was never meant to be an exact science. Its always had a bit of subjectivity. The "missed" calls happened, and were talked about, but then we all moved on.
 

14/04/91

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In Haaland & City’s defence, that ‘mistake’ by the ref was utterly shocking. It was totally inexplicable; he’d quite rightly allowed play to go on but then blew.

Arteta and Arsenal were embarrassing in comparison (against Newcastle) but things like this deserve criticism in my opinion, there’s no excuse for what he did
 

Tucker

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I hope they release the audio of the incident. Did he actually play on? Or did he signal a foul and not blow the whistle?

Play on is usually signalled by two arms raised waiving play on. A foul is signalled by a single raised arm pointing in the direction of the team that is given the foul.

Hooper doesn’t raise both arms. He raised a single arm and then when Haaland kicked a moving ball he blew the whistle.

That’s how I saw it anyway.
 

Styopa

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The pressure on officials to be perfect is just a total waste of everyone's time as it's clearly not possible. Quite often even pundits and fans can't agree on what the "correct" decision was, so what chance one person in the middle, running about for 90 mins.

I watched the FA Cup game between Eastligh and Reading, a game played without VAR and it was a breath of fresh air. I think a couple of borderline decisions were possibly not entirely correct, but a decision was made and the game just flowed. No need for microscopic analysis on every single decision after either.

Much better for all concerned in my opinion. Bin VAR and accept that sometimes mistakes are made - it's a game after all, not a science.

I complete agree. And ironically var has increased scrutiny on referees and their decisions because we all now analyse the var calls or why var wasn’t used. It’s just added a new layer of scrutiny rather than solving anything.

I think we need to be honest and say the main issue is that every single premier league match is watched by millions of people on tv or the internet with tens or hundreds of different camera angles and speeds for every single incident. And people arguing about millimetres and toes being offside or whatever. It’s no wonder these controversies come up every week.
 

taidgh

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I hope they release the audio of the incident. Did he actually play on? Or did he signal a foul and not blow the whistle?

Play on is usually signalled by two arms raised waiving play on. A foul is signalled by a single raised arm pointing in the direction of the team that is given the foul.

Hooper doesn’t raise both arms. He raised a single arm and then when Haaland kicked a moving ball he blew the whistle.

That’s how I saw it anyway.
Referees can signal advantage with one or two arms. But I agree, you'd have to hear the audio to see if he said it.
 

easley91

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The pressure on officials to be perfect is just a total waste of everyone's time as it's clearly not possible. Quite often even pundits and fans can't agree on what the "correct" decision was, so what chance one person in the middle, running about for 90 mins.

I watched the FA Cup game between Eastligh and Reading, a game played without VAR and it was a breath of fresh air. I think a couple of borderline decisions were possibly not entirely correct, but a decision was made and the game just flowed. No need for microscopic analysis on every single decision after either.

Much better for all concerned in my opinion. Bin VAR and accept that sometimes mistakes are made - it's a game after all, not a science.
I don't think this was on VAR, though was it? Ref blew for a foul, then seemingly played advantage and brought it back with Grealish in a good position (looked onside too). Granted I haven't really seen it since last night, so I need to go back and rewatch it.
 

nailsy

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In Haaland & City’s defence, that ‘mistake’ by the ref was utterly shocking. It was totally inexplicable; he’d quite rightly allowed play to go on but then blew.

Arteta and Arsenal were embarrassing in comparison (against Newcastle) but things like this deserve criticism in my opinion, there’s no excuse for what he did

Didn't Haaland handle the ball as he went down?
 

mano-obe

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Referee didn't play advantage. Refs are instructed to use both arms to signal advantage. He had one arm pointing for a free kick in the correct direction but strangely delayed it. No advantage played or gestured at all
 

mano-obe

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I hope they release the audio of the incident. Did he actually play on? Or did he signal a foul and not blow the whistle?

Play on is usually signalled by two arms raised waiving play on. A foul is signalled by a single raised arm pointing in the direction of the team that is given the foul.

Hooper doesn’t raise both arms. He raised a single arm and then when Haaland kicked a moving ball he blew the whistle.

That’s how I saw it anyway.

Sorry mate I wrote more or less the same thing about two arms raised. I read it after I wrote but a great point. Definitely not an advantage played
 
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