Let's all admire Brighton
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wrd
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The way they sign players, I'm sure the next logical step is they attempt to buy a league
Nayim60yards
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I admire them but they haven't left us in their wake just yet. If Brighton go one win, one draw and two losses and we win both of ours we finish above them. Given their opponents those results are not impossible: (Newcastle and Villa away, Southampton and Man City at home)
However......if anything I am more confident in them posting those results than I am us beating both Brentford and Leeds!
However......if anything I am more confident in them posting those results than I am us beating both Brentford and Leeds!
Rocksuperstar
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Was only a few years ago we were held up as a financial model to aspire to but astute financial management isn't trophies and I hate to be curmudgeonly but, after seeing how our fans appear to be desperate gamblers, and how sound financial management means dick without tin.
Give it a couple of years, a few unfortunate managerial appointments or signings, doesn't matter how well run the club is, fans will gripe.
Give it a couple of years, a few unfortunate managerial appointments or signings, doesn't matter how well run the club is, fans will gripe.
Yeah. Brighton are doing very well at the moment and are being rightly praised for that. But they might be enjoying a purple patch period like numerous clubs have before them.
Anyone following football long enough will remember how teams like Southampton and Swansea were widely celebrated for how they were run and the style of football they played. Before them, Bolton had a few seasons challenging the top six. Middlesbrough were another. Leicester, until this season were being held by many as the model we should replicate.
De Zerbi has done a great job at Brighton this season, building on very firm foundations. But the real question is can they sustain what they have achieved this season?
muppetman
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I think Brighton have done really well. As others have said, so have other teams for a period of time.
However, one of the hardest jobs in football is to enter the very top tier without being financially doped. Will Brighton be able to overcome their small fanbase, small stadium and lack of global exposure to really break into the Top 4 (or 6 depending on how many we are counting now)?
That step up when selling clubs start to want top dollar for their players and only want to buy your cast-offs for a pittance, make maintaining the success of Brighton (and before them Saints, Swansea etc) really tough. They have to get everything 100% correct as the margin of error is so small - see SCBC now.
We are the only team I can think of who have managed to make/maintain that jump without being financially doped. Everton, Villa and West Ham haven't been able to do so yet and I'm not sure they will be - maybe Villa could if they can build the team, the infrastructure and the worldwide fanbase. The new stadium, the London base (with all the "tourists" it brings) and perhaps being the only Hotspur have all helped but even with that we've struggled to really compete at the very top.
I think there is a limit to what Brighton can achieve but I guess time will tell.
However, one of the hardest jobs in football is to enter the very top tier without being financially doped. Will Brighton be able to overcome their small fanbase, small stadium and lack of global exposure to really break into the Top 4 (or 6 depending on how many we are counting now)?
That step up when selling clubs start to want top dollar for their players and only want to buy your cast-offs for a pittance, make maintaining the success of Brighton (and before them Saints, Swansea etc) really tough. They have to get everything 100% correct as the margin of error is so small - see SCBC now.
We are the only team I can think of who have managed to make/maintain that jump without being financially doped. Everton, Villa and West Ham haven't been able to do so yet and I'm not sure they will be - maybe Villa could if they can build the team, the infrastructure and the worldwide fanbase. The new stadium, the London base (with all the "tourists" it brings) and perhaps being the only Hotspur have all helped but even with that we've struggled to really compete at the very top.
I think there is a limit to what Brighton can achieve but I guess time will tell.
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Tucker
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There’s definitely going to be a ceiling to what they can achieve imo. It’s all good and well taking punts on cheap players from abroad but that can only take you so far. It’s low risk for decent reward right now. They’re going to start seeing those better players picked off by bigger teams, we took Bissouma from them last year and he was immediately replaced by Caicedo. How many times can they realistically do that? Mac Allister seems to be the next to go, Caicedo too maybe.
They’re a well run club punching well above their weight, but I don’t think it’s sustainable.
Frozen_Waffles
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I think at this point we should rename the website Brighton Community, change the Bissouma thread to Ex player watch and just never talk about Spurs again, I think that would be for the best.
If we can convince Harry to sign for them us at the end of his contract as well it would help with the transition.
So.... that Lewis Dunk eh?
If we can convince Harry to sign for
So.... that Lewis Dunk eh?
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Yeah, yeah, I agree that Brighton have been impressive this year and that this is the culmination of all the work they've put in over many years. But every time that a 'lesser' club has a decent season following a period of sustained improvement, then all we get on here is 'we should copy what they do, we should buy the players they do, we should have a culture just like theirs'. Leicester. Southampton. Swansea. West Ham. Well, not West Ham, we do have some standards. But you know what I mean. All flavour of the month. All now fucked and then some. Which reminds me. The 'Everton going for top four' thread, anyone?
So, in that vein, I'd like to bring a bit of balance to this thread. Not to punch down on Brighton - they are above us after all - but just to provide a salve for those of you feeling slightly nauseous after all the compliments. And why would I do this, you might ask? My last point will make it clear.
So then:
1. No club worth its salt has a local derby with a club 46 miles away.
2. They call it the M23 Derby. Have some fucking self-respect.
3. Their mascot is called 'Gully' the Seagull. Really? Imagination obviously not a strong point on the South coast.
4. It's got ginger hair. I mean, why? Why would you give a seagull ginger hair? FFS.
5. It's also got the cold, dead eyes of a serial killer. Slightly unnerving, I must say.
6. They've never won a major trophy. No league. No cup. Nada. FA Charity Shield in 1910 and that's your lot. That means they're objectively worse than West Ham. I mean, honestly. You'd just give up, wouldn't you?
7. And Smith must score. And he hasn't scored. That's it. That is the history of the Brighton. Two seconds of failure.
8. The guy who saved the club was called Dick Knight. Make your own jokes up.
9. Brighton are only in the League at all by a quirk of fate. They finished joint bottom of League Two on the same points as Hereford, but with a worse goal difference. However, back then, league positions were decided by goals scored, so they stayed up.
10. And, finally, they hate us. Really, really hate us. In April 1978, we travelled to Brighton and, according to one report, stole sixteen cars, burned one out, and stopped the game twice by invading the pitch, the second time in an attempt to get it abandoned. A month later, Southampton and Spurs played out a tame, and almost certainly contrived, 0-0 draw on the last day of the season to ensure we both got promoted to the top flight. Brighton won on that day, but missed out to us on goal difference. They weren't happy. Shame.
And so there you have it. I'm not a Brighton hater in the same way I hate Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Wolves, but, when acknowledging the excellence of their season and their set-up, let's not go over the top. All these things are finite and they'll hit a bump in the road soon enough. At which point we'll all be wondering why we had a thread entitled 'let's all admire Brighton' (except we won't as they won't be relevant to us any more).
So, in that vein, I'd like to bring a bit of balance to this thread. Not to punch down on Brighton - they are above us after all - but just to provide a salve for those of you feeling slightly nauseous after all the compliments. And why would I do this, you might ask? My last point will make it clear.
So then:
1. No club worth its salt has a local derby with a club 46 miles away.
2. They call it the M23 Derby. Have some fucking self-respect.
3. Their mascot is called 'Gully' the Seagull. Really? Imagination obviously not a strong point on the South coast.
4. It's got ginger hair. I mean, why? Why would you give a seagull ginger hair? FFS.
5. It's also got the cold, dead eyes of a serial killer. Slightly unnerving, I must say.
6. They've never won a major trophy. No league. No cup. Nada. FA Charity Shield in 1910 and that's your lot. That means they're objectively worse than West Ham. I mean, honestly. You'd just give up, wouldn't you?
7. And Smith must score. And he hasn't scored. That's it. That is the history of the Brighton. Two seconds of failure.
8. The guy who saved the club was called Dick Knight. Make your own jokes up.
9. Brighton are only in the League at all by a quirk of fate. They finished joint bottom of League Two on the same points as Hereford, but with a worse goal difference. However, back then, league positions were decided by goals scored, so they stayed up.
10. And, finally, they hate us. Really, really hate us. In April 1978, we travelled to Brighton and, according to one report, stole sixteen cars, burned one out, and stopped the game twice by invading the pitch, the second time in an attempt to get it abandoned. A month later, Southampton and Spurs played out a tame, and almost certainly contrived, 0-0 draw on the last day of the season to ensure we both got promoted to the top flight. Brighton won on that day, but missed out to us on goal difference. They weren't happy. Shame.
And so there you have it. I'm not a Brighton hater in the same way I hate Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and Wolves, but, when acknowledging the excellence of their season and their set-up, let's not go over the top. All these things are finite and they'll hit a bump in the road soon enough. At which point we'll all be wondering why we had a thread entitled 'let's all admire Brighton' (except we won't as they won't be relevant to us any more).
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Marty
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My initial hunch is: First mistake
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Supposedly net spend over last ten years. Spurs not much more than Brighton, yet we've consistently been much better, until this season of course.
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His facial hair fucks me off as well, and has got progressively worse over the years.I have an inherent dislike of De Zerbi.
Any middle-aged man with heavily gelled, spiky hair is a wrongun for me!
All he’s missing is the stupid pencil-thin chin strap beard to complete the triumvirate of ****.
