Lennon

[jurgen1966]

Crossing

Watching him kick the ball at times is like watching a 5 year old kick a space hopper

 

[paul_1979yid]

You haven't had a good word to say about many players on this forum though. i just think your expectations of players is too high.

Its not that my expectations are too high mate. Expecting a PRO footballer to be able to cross a ball, or for a winger to beat a man is not really asking too much i dont think. Maybe i am wrong

 

[DC_Boy]

My friend your points are valid, but you are talking about 1 game, i am talking about a season and a half, is it any coincedence he is back in the u21?? Lennon has hugh talent but he is not blossoming in anyway into the player i like most was expecting, hand on heart do you think he is good enough for us to break into the top four??

Hi Juande - hand on heart I think Lennon is good enough to be part of a top 4 fininshing squad - as is about half our squad - maybe more - but we need a few more in yet to make that jump lge-wise

 

[Juande]

Hi Juande - hand on heart I think Lennon is good enough to be part of a top 4 fininshing squad - as is about half our squad - maybe more - but we need a few more in yet to make that jump lge-wise

Fine, thats your opinion and yes in the squad i agree, i just think his final ball should be getting better, and i also hope Juande can bring it out of him.

 

[worcestersauce]

I'm not sure Aaron Lennon is an instictive winger, by that I mean it isn't his natural instinct to make for the side line whether he has the ball or not, in the CC final he turned he game when switched to the left because he was comfortable when he cut in on his right foot. Plus it's easier for a defence to play a right winger when your left winger sits in the middle of the park as ours does, with a wide left mid they get stretched.

This is not a knock at Lennon just an observation, the problem with players like him is that people instinctively put them out on the wing like lanky kids get stuck as centre halfs.
No one complains about Steed even though he never goes near the side line except to make a tackle.

We've seen Lennon play very successfully in the middle behind the front two and also when he can cut in so maybe a reappraisal of his strengths is timely, maybe a run in JJ's role while he's out injured. I rate young Mr Lennon very highly and I am absolutely certain that we have not seen the best of him yet,

 

[Babylon22]

Love the way everyone is jumping on lennons back when you have players like zokora in our team. Our fans are jokes. Last week he turned the game against Chelsea this week he isnt good enough.pathetic and embarassing.the guy isnt even 21.

 

[chinaman]

It's just fatigue. Give him a couple of games off to re-charge and he'll come back with his electrifying pace.

 

[General Levy]

Love the way everyone is jumping on lennons back when you have players like zokora in our team. Our fans are jokes. Last week he turned the game against Chelsea this week he isnt good enough.pathetic and embarassing.the guy isnt even 21.

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[saintlyspur]

i dont normally slag players off after a defeat but lennon has been poor for a while now but zokora sends me my brothers and my sons fuckin mental between the six of us i dont know how my telly survived last night

 

[sihills]

I never said that lennon was a poor player, but he is so frustrating, he has the potential to be as good as he wants to be but he doesnt seem to want to be even remotely good. His biggest asset is his pace, but he very rarely uses it, as I said if he knocks the ball on the outside of the fullback and runs he gets past them, if he knocks it inside 9/10 times there will be a covering defender and I know he is good but he isnt good enough to beat 2/3 players everytime he cuts in. Im sure ramos will have pointed it out to him, but he is so frustrating to watch, I have the urge to shout at him to use his assets everytime he gets the ball (his pace) but he very rarely does. Never did I post the thread saying he was a bad player, just he is not playing aswell as he could, and it wasnt just last night all season he has tried cutting inside and very rarely does it work.

Si

 

[double0]

(1) Lennon has to learn quickly how to cross a ball basically how to strike a ball.
(2) When to put the ball in first time.
(3) When to dribble.

Lennon is still raw IMO and needs a bit more specialist coaching.

 

[don1]

some people are unreal

 

[C0YS]

I acctually like lennon going inside, I know becouse Im a full back, but If I was playing against lennon the one thing I would not do is let him inside. Their is no way (and not just me but many fullbacks in the PL too) that I can tackle him, so I would want to get him down the wing where hes practiclly useless, for his distrebution is poor, and hopefully block his cross. But theirs no way I'll show him the inside.

Lennons biggest asset is his close control, of the ball, he always keeps the ball glued to his feet (if you dont belive me look at his vids), well comparetivly to most wingers, and turnes so quikly and effectivlley, he can beat 3 or 4 class defenders by simply turning thro' them.

Also Lennon likes the ball to be played to his feet, because basically hes a light weight (I have a freind who playes in a very similar way to Lennon who gets enjoyed when people play the ball for him to run onto) he gets shoved off the ball easily and thefore, dosnt always get to these balls. I think Lennon actually plays very well to his strenths, cuts inside and then passes it!!. the questio is, is LEnnon playing to his strenths good for spurs?

 

[Black]

Lennon frustrates me sooooo much. He has no idea how to play to his strengths. He has great pace and can dribble well, I wouldn't say he has all that much flair but his ball control is very good, as was demonstrated on that recent Nike ad. His delivery is not so good(so why the hell does he take corners?).

The ball Taarabt played last night which Lennon left was exactly right. Lennon should be looking for those runs because no left back in the world is going to beat him to that ball. That way he doesn't have to worry about taking it round the left back, and he's free to charge into the box.

Instead he always seems to stand still and want the ball played into feet. :bang:

Please note, I rate Lennon and do not want to see him sold, I am just saying how I think he could improve his game.

You see the bold bits thats is Lennon's problem. He cant cross yet he takes corners why :shrug:

He wants the ball into feet but yet he cant go pass players regularly.

Is like he has no brain his positioning is as bad and Defoe's was, he seems to just stand of the right talking to the linesmen. Even when he aint had a touch of the ball for like 20min he don't seems to think let me drift in side a bit so i can give the other players an option.

Ever since he got injured its like he lost the confidence he had to get at players.

Still pisses me of that he still cant cross he cant even whip a simple ball in for a header FFS this is basic for a winger. Berbatov can header but yet i cant remember him putting in a cross and him scoring by header and they way thing are going it wont be happening any time soon. Lennon is starting to seem like Bent pace and nothing else.

Taarabt needs to give Lennon a bit of competition on that wing, hes having things for too easy with no end product

 

[nightgoat]

Give Taarabt a run instead of Lennon. At least he can create and doesn't bottle challenges

:rofl:

I'm not sure whether suggesting Taarabt should start ahead of Lennon or that Taarabt actually creates anything for us is funnier...

 

[guiltyparty]

You people are unbelievable.Anyone remember lennon's last match? tearing chelsea apart?Skinning Beletti?Carling Cup?..HE changed the game?..PATHETIC FICKLE FANS. Almost as bad as newcastle fans.

See, this is how these arguments always go, people clouding the issue by going on the defensive and ignoring the actual argument. There is a lot of grey area.

Yes, him taking the game by the scruff of the neck DID help change the game against Chelsea, but he was anonymous for about 90 per cent of it too and I also had to remind myself he was playing. One group chooses to remember one thing, the other remembers the other, yet both are right.

For my part, before I come across more neutral than Switzerland, Lennon has the potential to be our most talented, most influential player behind Berbatov. THAT'S why people get so frustrated, THAT'S why people seem to be so down on him, because he's pissing it away by just being fairly good. It's the same reason Jenas has so many supposed 'bashers'.

If they were just pretty decent, fairly average players (say like Tainio or Malbranque) they would get raves for their 'endeavour' because they were playing at or above their potential. But Jenas and Lennon in particular are two players that really could be world class, and a certain expectation comes with that.

The simple fact is, despite adding a certain degree of tracking back to his game, he hasn't progressed as an attacking force since his wonder season. He relies on his pace and a couple of basic moves that a lot of defenders have worked out. His crossing is still, on the whole, pretty poor and his shooting is almost non-existent.

I really don't think anyone believes he isn't good or thinks we should get rid, he offers too much of a threat and a different avenue of play (ie speed) compared to other players we have. But by the same token, anyone completely satisfied with where he is at the moment is guilty of having the lowest expectations ever.

 

[waresy]

crazy!

Lennon is still a very young player who has loads of potential to improve further. Against PSV the Team was a bit clueless, not helped by endless hoofs forward from the back. Lennon works best with neat interchanges around the box as he has a superb touch and change of pace.
Yeah he needs to work some more on his crossing.

Someone mentioned about him dispapearing from the England set up, he has missed large spells throughinjury since the world cup and the recent friendlies he was in the u21 squad to add experience in a qualifier. He was one of the better players on show that evening.

 

[guiltyparty]

Someone mentioned about him dispapearing from the England set up, he has missed large spells throughinjury since the world cup and the recent friendlies he was in the u21 squad to add experience in a qualifier. He was one of the better players on show that evening.

That was me. Fair enough, but he's been fit for a while and I think he'll find himself well down the pecking order.

And so he should perform well for the U21 - this is the guy who was going to be Beckham's permanent replacement not so long ago, yeah?

Look, I'm not hating on the guy, but his over-hype to begin with has affected everyone. If you're satisfied with his current performances, fine. I'm not. Think as a player, as I've said, he's one of the most talented we've got. But if he's only going to play as he is at the moment, I'd like us to get him some competition as he's not supplying nearly enough.

 

[waresy]

Fair enough, but he's been fit for a while and I think he'll find himself well down the pecking order.

And so he should perform well for the U21 - this is the guy who was going to be Beckham's permanent replacement not so long ago, yeah?

Look, I'm not hating on the guy, but his over-hype to begin with has affected everyone. If you're satisfied with his current performances, fine. I'm not. Think as a player, as I've said, he's one of the most talented we've got. But if he's only going to play as he is at the moment, I'd like us to get him some competition as he's not supplying nearly enough.

Defo, other players are ahead in the order for certain; just suggesting that he is still in the plans/mind of the national side.

I dont think that he has been the world beater that we'd all want but its not half as bad as some people have made out.

Was looking for some assist stats but gave up, think they may be interesting

 

[Juande]

See, this is how these arguments always go, people clouding the issue by going on the defensive and ignoring the actual argument. There is a lot of grey area.

Yes, him taking the game by the scruff of the neck DID help change the game against Chelsea, but he was anonymous for about 90 per cent of it too and I also had to remind myself he was playing. One group chooses to remember one thing, the other remembers the other, yet both are right.

For my part, before I come across more neutral than Switzerland, Lennon has the potential to be our most talented, most influential player behind Berbatov. THAT'S why people get so frustrated, THAT'S why people seem to be so down on him, because he's pissing it away by just being fairly good. It's the same reason Jenas has so many supposed 'bashers'.

If they were just pretty decent, fairly average players (say like Tainio or Malbranque) they would get raves for their 'endeavour' because they were playing at or above their potential. But Jenas and Lennon in particular are two players that really could be world class, and a certain expectation comes with that.

The simple fact is, despite adding a certain degree of tracking back to his game, he hasn't progressed as an attacking force since his wonder season. He relies on his pace and a couple of basic moves that a lot of defenders have worked out. His crossing is still, on the whole, pretty poor and his shooting is almost non-existent.

I really don't think anyone believes he isn't good or thinks we should get rid, he offers too much of a threat and a different avenue of play (ie speed) compared to other players we have. But by the same token, anyone completely satisfied with where he is at the moment is guilty of having the lowest expectations ever.

A well thought out reply, wha most of us have been trying to say but perhaps let out emotions get the better of us.
Nobody wants to see lennon go, but for me since BMJ said he was as good as Christian Ronaldo he has not been the same IMO