Lamela

[Graysonti]

£30m of talent.

Cannot get off our bench in not 1, but 2 league games where we scored a whopping 0 goals.

It beggars belief it really does. It's something i'm really struggling to understand.

180 mins, no goals, no Lamela. WHY?

Down to manager

 

[James_THFC]

It was the perfect opportunity to play lamela today. By the time our next game comes along, his performance against sherriff will be a distant memory and his confidence levels back to square one.

This, for me, is the most infuriating aspect of today's game.

 

[Pican]

After his performance against Sheriff there's no excuse for not involving him in today's game, just awful management.

 

[Shea]

Down to manager

He seems very stubborn and unwilling to change things when they're not working

Definition of insanity they say to keep repeating the same actions and expect different outcomes

I got a bad feeling AVB will continue to make the same mistakes and we'll end up starting over again

 

[markiespurs]

After his performance against Sheriff there's no excuse for not involving him in today's game, just awful management.

Couldn't agree more with this post, it is simply awful management by AVB.

By not picking Lamela to start today, AVB must have wrecked whatever confidence Lamela had gained from his performance on Friday

 

[Main Man]

In all seriousness, not picking up on you in particular mate and it was just one performance. I just hope you and others can at least appreciate now why many were willing to give the lad time and patience before labelling him as a complete write-off.

EDIT: And to be fair to you:

All I have said (up until last week) was that Lamela has done nothing to justify starting for us.

To some extent, I still think that despite his promising performance against the Moldovans (whom we must remember are shocking).

But when AVB was making that third substitute on Sunday, he was the only option for me.

I would happily see him play every game now, but I would like to see him operate on the left. I have constantly read that he plays best from the right, but I have had enough of opposite footed wingers for a lifetime.

I can't think of any player that has made a successful career playing on the opposite flank?

I am sure you guys can think of one, but I can't?

Ginola, Pires and Ljungberg I suppose could operate on either wing, but they were all capable using both feet. None of our attackers are. Not a single one.

 

[Spurger King]

I can't think of any player that has made a successful career playing on the opposite flank?

Ronaldo's had a moderately successful career on the left.

 

[jezz]

All I have said (up until last week) was that Lamela has done nothing to justify starting for us.

To some extent, I still think that despite his promising performance against the Moldovans (whom we must remember are shocking).

But when AVB was making that third substitute on Sunday, he was the only option for me.

I would happily see him play every game now, but I would like to see him operate on the left. I have constantly read that he plays best from the right, but I have had enough of opposite footed wingers for a lifetime.

I can't think of any player that has made a successful career playing on the opposite flank?

I am sure you guys can think of one, but I can't?

Ginola, Pires and Ljungberg I suppose could operate on either wing, but they were all capable using both feet. None of our attackers are. Not a single one.

Townsends promising performances were against moldovans?
Except they didnt park the bus against enland.
The one at white hart lane did, and lamela destroyed them.

 

[Real_madyidd]

He seems very stubborn and unwilling to change things when they're not working

Definition of insanity they say to keep repeating the same actions and expect different outcomes

I got a bad feeling AVB will continue to make the same mistakes and we'll end up starting over again

Not sure why people are agreeing with this?

he made changes at half time when we were losing. We have lost what? 3 games? Nothing needed changing against Arsenal as we were the better team, and i didn't watch the west ham game but i gather we dominated the play.

 

[Kendall]

The bottom line is that Levy needs to interject in this situation. We are not a club who operate on a huge budget. We cannot afford to spend 30 million pounds on a brilliant talent and just slowly integrate him. It was a mistake with Lloris and it's a mistake with Lamela.

If Levy doesn't interject, don't expect to see Lamela until mid-December, because you just know AVB won't play him away to City or against United.

No way.

I am Levy's biggest fan and anyone that has ever said he doesn't back his manager can sit on a fat one BUT the chairman should never intervene with team affairs. If he has an issue, he should talk to AVB about results/performances not lean on him to pick a certain player.

 

[Kendall]

I can't think of any player that has made a successful career playing on the opposite flank?

Robben and Ribery say hi

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Robben and Ribery say hi

There's also this lad called Messi who weren't too shabby for the first few years of his career on the right.

Overmars was one of the best in the epl imo but overall there have been loads of successful inverted wingers I don't see it as a problem at all. Hazard plays down the left and I don't see too many issues with him.

 

[jezz]

Whatever Lamela does, there will be certain people who make excuses why he shouldnt play.
I think these are Townsend fans.
Personally i like townsend.
Hes had a run, but breaking it down its not pretty viewing.
But hes lucky, we have the players he can learn from and play with.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

All I have said (up until last week) was that Lamela has done nothing to justify starting for us.

To some extent, I still think that despite his promising performance against the Moldovans (whom we must remember are shocking).

But when AVB was making that third substitute on Sunday, he was the only option for me.

I would happily see him play every game now, but I would like to see him operate on the left. I have constantly read that he plays best from the right, but I have had enough of opposite footed wingers for a lifetime.

I can't think of any player that has made a successful career playing on the opposite flank?

I am sure you guys can think of one, but I can't?

Ginola, Pires and Ljungberg I suppose could operate on either wing, but they were all capable using both feet. None of our attackers are. Not a single one.

We haven't really played inside forwards (inverted wingers) yet though. Sticking a right footed player on the left does not make him an inside forward. Lamela can play inside forward, so can schurrle, and so can son heung min. Sigurdsson and eriksen and holtby can't.

Saying the inside forward system doesn't work when all we have done is stick sigurdsson on the left would be the same as sticking sandro behind the front man and then saying the trequartista system doesn't work. It does work when you have the right players for it.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I think there is general agreement that the Defoe sub over Lamela was a bit ..er..doolally shall we say .No wrong , wildly doolally , yes that's more like it .

Why did this happen is the next question . Someone said somewhere on here that Lamela got a knock vs Sherrif . Noone contradicted this . Anyone got a definitive answer on this ?

The other speculation I'd make is that possibly AVB is keen not to make enemies among his players . Defoe has been mouthing off in the press and to AVB assuredly , that next year is WC and he needs to be in the Spurs team to make it . I would worry that AVB is susceptable to this kind of pressure from er..'senior' squad members .
Further evidence of this would be his statement that he has 'Given my word' to Jan that he goes back to CB as soon as Rose is back . ' Given his word '? not sure SAF gave his word to players about their future positions or whether they play at all .Is this player's interests over the club's ?

Will AVB be honouring all sorts of promises to players when it comes to team selection/subs ? or will he be selecting players purely on the basis of what is best for the club ? . Its a worry .
New boy Lamela on the basis of seniority is lower down the status scale....is that why he didn't come on vs Newcastle ? god I hope not .

 

[michaelden]

I think there is general agreement that the Defoe sub over Lamela was a bit ..er..doolally shall we say .No wrong , wildly doolally , yes that's more like it .

Why did this happen is the next question . Someone said somewhere on here that Lamela got a knock vs Sherrif . Noone contradicted this . Anyone got a definitive answer on this ?

The other speculation I'd make is that possibly AVB is keen not to make enemies among his players . Defoe has been mouthing off in the press and to AVB assuredly , that next year is WC and he needs to be in the Spurs team to make it . I would worry that AVB is susceptable to this kind of pressure from er..'senior' squad members .
Further evidence of this would be his statement that he has 'Given my word' to Jan that he goes back to CB as soon as Rose is back . ' Given his word '? not sure SAF gave his word to players about their future positions or whether they play at all .Is this player's interests over the club's ?

Will AVB be honouring all sorts of promises to players when it comes to team selection/subs ? or will he be selecting players purely on the basis of what is best for the club ? . Its a worry .
New boy Lamela on the basis of seniority is lower down the status scale....is that why he didn't come on vs Newcastle ? god I hope not .

If that's the case the fucking sell Defoe, Ade & any other moaning player ahead of him

 

[YiddoInPoland]

My cousin is visiting from Rome now, he's a Roma fan so naturally I asked him about Lamela

He thinks he's a fantastic talent - said he could be the next Christiano Ronaldo

Although interestingly he says he thinks Ljajic is a better fit for Roma, not a better player (he says Lamela is the more talented player) but thinks Ljajic is more effective for them and makes them a better team

I didn't know whether to take confidence or doubts from his opinions really

You have to take confidence in that, he is a talent and i think he is starting to settle so we will start to see more from him. He is a talent no doubt and it took Ronaldo a while to settle as well, once he does we will have an effective player.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

I think there is general agreement that the Defoe sub over Lamela was a bit ..er..doolally shall we say .No wrong , wildly doolally , yes that's more like it .

Why did this happen is the next question . Someone said somewhere on here that Lamela got a knock vs Sherrif . Noone contradicted this . Anyone got a definitive answer on this ?

The other speculation I'd make is that possibly AVB is keen not to make enemies among his players . Defoe has been mouthing off in the press and to AVB assuredly , that next year is WC and he needs to be in the Spurs team to make it . I would worry that AVB is susceptable to this kind of pressure from er..'senior' squad members .
Further evidence of this would be his statement that he has 'Given my word' to Jan that he goes back to CB as soon as Rose is back . ' Given his word '? not sure SAF gave his word to players about their future positions or whether they play at all .Is this player's interests over the club's ?

Will AVB be honouring all sorts of promises to players when it comes to team selection/subs ? or will he be selecting players purely on the basis of what is best for the club ? . Its a worry .
New boy Lamela on the basis of seniority is lower down the status scale....is that why he didn't come on vs Newcastle ? god I hope not .

As a club it should not be our concern if players make their international teams or not, we are the ones who pay their ridiculous salaries, but in the case of Defoe, he doesn't really get much of a look in for England anyway, so he might be on the plane, but he will hardly step on the pitch.

He plays enough games, we are in four competitions and by the end of the season he would have started in probably 20 games or so, which is more then enough to show what he can do. I don't want to lambast him for Sunday as coming on for 20 minutes and really getting into the game can be hard, but generally, unless he scores, there is not much else he offers.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Further evidence of this would be his statement that he has 'Given my word' to Jan that he goes back to CB as soon as Rose is back . ' Given his word '? not sure SAF gave his word to players about their future positions or whether they play at all .Is this player's interests over the club's ?
.

Just getting back to the weird Defoe over Lamela sub . AVB has given his word to Jan that he moves to CB as soon as Rose returns . We know this because he said so in interview .

Has he also given his word to Defoe that he gets subbed on if not starting if at all possible ? given his word and this time not told us about it .

I speculate because performances like Lamela's Sheriff one eg the Townsend mini explosion in the Europa , meant Townsend naturally went straight into the Prem 1st team .AVB can react to great performances . Lamela , this didn't happen , packed defences hate close control forwards dribbling into their area ,this Defoe sub seems so odd

I'd speculate we are dealing with player over club issues . I truly hope this speculation is wrong .

 

[robbiedee]

Lamela just needs some fucking games....

I hadn't seen anything of him in Italy. To be honest, I'd never heard of him til people on here started getting excited in the transfer threads...

His last two games have been promising and I think he could be our Suarez type player. (no not biting, spitting and racially abusing opponents), I think he's the man to play just off Soldado, linking up, threading balls through and popping up in the box when we need him.

I'm sure loads of you will tell me I'm wrong and this opinion is just based on the two decent performances he's had (Hull C1 Cup and Sheriff).

We have a busy couple of months coming up and hopefully he'll be given plenty of opportunity to get his confidence right up there and hopefully change our impact play in the final 3rd.

I'm pretty certain Lamela holds the key to our goal drought.