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Julian Nagelsmann 'prioritising Tottenham Hotspur job'

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Former Bayern Munich boss Julian Nagelsmann has reportedly made the Tottenham Hotspur job his main priority.

The 35-year-old is on the lookout for a new job, after being relieved of his duties as Bayern head coach last month.

Source: Sports Mole
 

Smokinhotspur

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If this report is true, I'll be the first to admit that I'm a bit surprised by it.
Actually makes sense when you put it together. Young manager that has made his name with less fancied clubs like Hoffenheim and Leipzig and taken them to greater heights. Gets burnt managing one if the giants in the game in Bayern and rightly wary of Chelsea which looks like a right mess of a club to step into at the moment. With all the infrastructure and facilities we have, with appropriate backing he could fancy his chances at being the one to lead our rebuild. I'd take my chances with him over Poch. fresh start is what we need.
 

Neon_Knight_

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Whoever takes over at Chelsea will have the undesirable challenge of trying to make a team out of a bunch of very expensive scatter-gun signings, rather than being able to build their own team. It's difficult to say what the spine of the team actually is and I can't see Boehly accepting huge losses on his recent signings before the new manager has attempted to make them work - even if they really don't fit the system / philosophy.
Conversely, our expensive flops are now far enough in the past that the new manager won't be expected to utilise them.
 

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Whoever takes over at Chelsea will have the undesirable challenge of trying to make a team out of a bunch of very expensive scatter-gun signings, rather than being able to build their own team. It's difficult to say what the spine of the team actually is and I can't see Boehly accepting huge losses on his recent signings before the new manager has attempted to make them work - even if they really don't fit the system / philosophy.
Conversely, our expensive flops are now far enough in the past that the new manager won't be expected to utilise them.


They'll have to shift some out pretty quickly and I doubt anyone will be matching the wages they pay for any of them unless they're HG and not broken through yet.
 

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Actually makes sense when you put it together. Young manager that has made his name with less fancied clubs like Hoffenheim and Leipzig and taken them to greater heights. Gets burnt managing one if the giants in the game in Bayern and rightly wary of Chelsea which looks like a right mess of a club to step into at the moment. With all the infrastructure and facilities we have, with appropriate backing he could fancy his chances at being the one to lead our rebuild. I'd take my chances with him over Poch. fresh start is what we need.
I can see the reasoning in your post, but that concern keeps cropping up.
 
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Smokinhotspur

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Whoever takes over at Chelsea will have the undesirable challenge of trying to make a team out of a bunch of very expensive scatter-gun signings, rather than being able to build their own team. It's difficult to say what the spine of the team actually is and I can't see Boehly accepting huge losses on his recent signings before the new manager has attempted to make them work - even if they really don't fit the system / philosophy.
Conversely, our expensive flops are now far enough in the past that the new manager won't be expected to utilise them.
Your last point is gold. Part of our problems today are a consequence from the end of the Poch era. If we bring him back, he has skin in the game in looking to prove that some of the decisions of the past were valid and as a result, may try to reintegrate Ndombele/Lo Celso as he has ties to those decisions given they call his judgement into question.

At this point we need someone with no previous loyalties and ties that can take a fresh look at it all from the ground up. The idea of a romantic Poch reunion can wait until the chance comes round again in the future.
 
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Smokinhotspur

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I can see with the reasoning in your post, but that concern keeps cropping up.
It's a tricky one. Looking at Tanguy, Lo Celso, Reguilon, Gil, Spence plus Doherty that we had to give away for free (because despite the structure and numerous fancy roles that Paratici had put in place, no one at the club could work out that we had too many players out on loan)! That is over £150m worth of players in transfer fees that we have out. The narrative that we haven't or don't back managers is not totally correct. Of course more could always be done but the facts show that we get it wrong so much more often than we get it right which is a big reason for our current predicament. Just hope whatever the new structure is, it has a solid basis for doing the proper due diligence on future incomings to avoid these recent disaster transfers.
 
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Neon_Knight_

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They'll have to shift some out pretty quickly and I doubt anyone will be matching the wages they pay for any of them unless they're HG and not broken through yet.
With a lot of their surplus players, Chelsea will have to either loan players out while heavily subsidising their wages or offset their high wages by massively discounting the transfer fee.
 

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Actually makes sense when you put it together. Young manager that has made his name with less fancied clubs like Hoffenheim and Leipzig and taken them to greater heights. Gets burnt managing one if the giants in the game in Bayern and rightly wary of Chelsea which looks like a right mess of a club to step into at the moment. With all the infrastructure and facilities we have, with appropriate backing he could fancy his chances at being the one to lead our rebuild. I'd take my chances with him over Poch. fresh start is what we need.
That description actually sounds like Poch too
 

Locotoro

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Your last point is gold. Part of our problems today are a consequence of the end of the Poch era. If we bring him back, he may be look to prove that decisions of the past were right eg try to reintegrate Ndombele/Lo Celso as he will has ties to those decisions and they call hia judgement into question.

At this point we need someone with no previous loyalties and ties that can take a fresh look at it all from the ground up. The idea of a Poch romantic reunion can wait until if the chance comes round again.
Pochettinos biggest flaw was his unwavering loyalty to his players. Even when players needed to be dropped he stuck with them. It's the sole reason why I believe it's too early to bring him back. We still have too many players that played under him and more specifically Dier, Sanchez and Lloris (and Winks) who should be finding new teams with respect.
 

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I can see with the reasoning in your post, but that concern keeps cropping up.
The "appropriate backing" needed is someone who's good at making the right transfer decisions, not more money being thrown at signings. The problem in the last few years hasn't how much we've spent, but who we've signed. Obviously not enough was spent in 2018-19, but since then we've spent over half a billion on new signings (£535m gross / £384m net). This is a similar amount of investment in the transfer market to Newcastle, slightly less than Arsenal, and more than Man City & Liverpool combined. Chelsea and Man Utd are our only domestic rivals who have significantly outspent us.

Roughly half of that £535m has been spent on players who've either completely flopped or failed to improve the squad (with a player of equal / greater ability moved on to accommodate them).
 

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I’m more in favour of finding the new Poch as opposed to re appointing the old one, Nagelsmann looks good, but Bayern are no mugs and they swapped him for Tuchel in a heartbeat, which is a bit of a concern.
 

Smokinhotspur

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I’m more in favour of finding the new Poch as opposed to re appointing the old one, Nagelsmann looks good, but Bayern are no mugs and they swapped him for Tuchel in a heartbeat, which is a bit of a concern.
I wouldn't be overly concerned by those recent events. Bayern are a massive club but also a political juggernaut with several power players in the mix.

Facts are he won the league in his first season, was top of the league when he got sacked and they were still in the CL quarter finals after having won all their group stage matches.

I'd take him in a heartbeat.
 

Smokinhotspur

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Pochettinos biggest flaw was his unwavering loyalty to his players. Even when players needed to be dropped he stuck with them. It's the sole reason why I believe it's too early to bring him back. We still have too many players that played under him and more specifically Dier, Sanchez and Lloris (and Winks) who should be finding new teams with respect.
Jettisoning Lloris as our goalkeeper and captain (with our respect and thanks) is one of the key first moves we need to make. We need a better keeper and better on pitch leadership as I'm sick of hearing his 'players need to take the responsibility' narrative that he has been parroting over the last few years but nothing changes incl. his own error strewn game. This is one of my major concerns with Poch coming back given how close they were and I could see a scenario where Hugo is rewarded with a contract extension which would completely be the wrong move.
 
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