Joey barton

[Jimbobfury]

And I don't mind some women pundits, they are better to look at than the hairy arsehole that is Gary Neville

 

[Reece_Spurs]

Barton is a detestable human, a big stinking pile of spunk. He’s latched onto something he knows a lot of people have been speaking about, women being pundits on men’s football, it does upset people and largely for the wrong reasons.

My thoughts on it, for what it’s worth. I would much much rather have a panel of pundits who are recently retired players/coaches who have worked along side, played with or against the players they are talking about. I couldn’t give a monkeys how well they come across as a personality, I want real proper first hand insight into a sport..they don’t need to recite Shakespeare, just give me the inside knowledge that’s valuable. So yes if I’m watching men’s premier league football I want a ex premier league footballer dissecting it.
Same goes with women’s football, I want to see women talking about the game they have been involved with since they have played with or against the players they are talking about.

Commentators I really don’t care as I don’t pay much attention, same goes for hosts of sports shows, doesn’t matter who you are just be a good anchor.

Balon D'or winner Michael Owen is a good example of why this shouldn't be the case.

 

[McFlash]

Yeah I really like Onouha, he does very well on Football Weekly IMO. Nothing very surprising there although the racism and anti-foreigner stuff is a bit eyebrow raising.

He's currently one of the best out there for me, clever, articulate and a fan of the game. Always speaks well on 5Live.

 

[McFlash]

And I don't mind some women pundits, they are better to look at than the hairy arsehole that is Gary Neville

I'm sure that's just the sort of backing they'd be happy with. FFS.

 

[Moonie]

Balon D'or winner Michael Owen is a good example of why this shouldn't be the case.

Hence why I said recently retired.

I’m not bothered if they say stupid things, as I said they are not there to read Shakespeare, but to give me an insight to a game from a first hand experience.

 

[Reece_Spurs]

Hence why I said recently retired.

I’m not bothered if they say stupid things, as I said they are not there to read Shakespeare, but to give me an insight to a game from a first hand experience.

Hence why I used Michael Owen as an example because many times just because a pundit is an ex premier league player and have first hand experience it doesn't equal good insight at all.

Also Owen was recently retired when he started.

Are these the insights you like?

“Footballers these days often have to use their feet.”

“That would’ve been a goal had it gone inside the post.”

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.”

“If there’s a bit of rain about, it makes the surface wet.”

“What a shot! That’s completely unstoppable, but the keeper’s got to do better for me.”

 

[Moonie]

Hence why I used Michael Owen as an example because many times just because a pundit is an ex premier league player and have first hand experience it doesn't equal good insight at all.

Also Owen was recently retired when he started.

Are these the insights you like?

“Footballers these days often have to use their feet.”

“That would’ve been a goal had it gone inside the post.”

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.”

“If there’s a bit of rain about, it makes the surface wet.”

“What a shot! That’s completely unstoppable, but the keeper’s got to do better for me. to use these examples, he has indeed said some ruddy stupid things, as have many pundits…again they are not speakers, they are sports people. And amongst his stupid sound bites and 1000s of hours of punditry he has obviously said far more insightful stuff. I’m not there to pick apart cliches, my preference is to listen to someone who has played

Hence why I used Michael Owen as an example because many times just because a pundit is an ex premier league player and have first hand experience it doesn't equal good insight at all.

Also Owen was recently retired when he started.

Are these the insights you like?

“Footballers these days often have to use their feet.”

“That would’ve been a goal had it gone inside the post.”

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.”

“If there’s a bit of rain about, it makes the surface wet.”

“What a shot! That’s completely unstoppable, but the keeper’s got to do better for me.”

I knew when typing the lazy Michael Owen stuff would come up, and to be fair you’ve missed a lot of shit he has said, some more embarrassing! You are completely missing the point however, I’d still rather a modern player would be pundit, someone who has played with and against the players on show than anyone else. If people want to call them out for not being great with words or whatever then fine. obviously some are better than others.
My preference is all

 

[rossdapep]

Nedum Onuoha gives his own opinions on Joey Barton as he played with him for 7 seasons across two subs. Really enlightening, and not favourable to Barton one bit. **Joey Barton bits start at around 1:13:34**

Sn: This entire interview is good. Onuoha talks about his career, and experience with Mancini, his frustration with football pundits' laziness, his time at QPR as well as his time in the MLS and spat with Zlatan while there.

Sn2: Onuoha is a breath of fresh air in punditry, he's honest, level-headed and clearly thinks through and eloquently articulates his answers. He's also not swayed when a panel is trying to push an agenda he doesn't agree with. We need more like him in the game but unfortunately it's a strong fraternity and this interview likely won't earn him many friends there, not that he particularly cares tbf

Yeah I always enjoy listening to him.

He is actually a role model of what one type of pundit should be.

I don't mind if one pundit is less insightful but brings a bit of Energy.

Ian Wright wasnt really insightful at the beginning but he brought some energy into the discussion.

But we seem to have gone down a route where they try to get too much humour (Richards) or soundbites (Keane) and with opening the door to women, they dont seem to have set a standard so thats why you are seeing ones who struggle to explain or make simple mistakes.

I am pretty sure that there are some great female pundits in wait but maybe the likes of Aluko or Ward have better agents or are just more renown?

 

[Moonie]

Hence why I used Michael Owen as an example because many times just because a pundit is an ex premier league player and have first hand experience it doesn't equal good insight at all.

Also Owen was recently retired when he started.

Are these the insights you like?

“Footballers these days often have to use their feet.”

“That would’ve been a goal had it gone inside the post.”

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.”

“If there’s a bit of rain about, it makes the surface wet.”

“What a shot! That’s completely unstoppable, but the keeper’s got to do better for me.”

The irony here as well is this thread is about Joey Barton being a bell end towards Eni Aluko who made the “goal a game” quote about Richarlison scoring 19 in 40.

 

[rossdapep]

Hence why I used Michael Owen as an example because many times just because a pundit is an ex premier league player and have first hand experience it doesn't equal good insight at all.

Also Owen was recently retired when he started.

Are these the insights you like?

“Footballers these days often have to use their feet.”

“That would’ve been a goal had it gone inside the post.”

“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins.”

“If there’s a bit of rain about, it makes the surface wet.”

“What a shot! That’s completely unstoppable, but the keeper’s got to do better for me.”

People have complained about Owen for years to be fair.

Plenty of people Said they switch off when he talks.

 

[alexis]

Nedum Onuoha gives his own opinions on Joey Barton as he played with him for 7 seasons across two subs. Really enlightening, and not favourable to Barton one bit. **Joey Barton bits start at around 1:13:34**

Sn: This entire interview is good. Onuoha talks about his career, and experience with Mancini, his frustration with football pundits' laziness, his time at QPR as well as his time in the MLS and spat with Zlatan while there.

Sn2: Onuoha is a breath of fresh air in punditry, he's honest, level-headed and clearly thinks through and eloquently articulates his answers. He's also not swayed when a panel is trying to push an agenda he doesn't agree with. We need more like him in the game but unfortunately it's a strong fraternity and this interview likely won't earn him many friends there, not that he particularly cares tbf

Hadn’t listened to him before and could’ve listened to more of him. No histrionics nice and relaxed delivery would add a bit of class

 

[nailsy]

I think he goes about in a completely ridiculous manner to be honest. To be calling people serial killers and mocking people is stupid. These women will get even more online hate/threats of all sorts now than usual - for doing their job.

The fact is those women couldn’t have done much more in their fields. No they aren’t as great as the great Joey Barton (whose managerial career wasn’t much good anyway) and yes I do think they force it a bit with the women on the commentary tbh (I’m a woman). But he has gone all out attacking them based on that saying women shouldn’t commentate on men’s sports.

The way I see it is that we all chat about football. You have professionals like Carragher and Neville who supposedly top of their game-chatting rubbish and being incredibly biased too. I hate tokenism because it doesn’t reflect people’s skills but I also totally reject a blanket “women shouldn’t commentate on men’s football” or some such. It’s very shortsighted.

Just sounds like he angry he hasn’t got a job tbh.

I've read that in posts on here a few times. It's absolute nonsense. You get some really good female pundits, and some really bad ones. It's no different to the male pundits. Emma Hayes is excellent. Hope Solo was a brilliant pundit when she was on the BBC for one of the womens tournaments. They're both far better than most of the male pundits that we have to put up with. I really can't understand how people can write off an entire gender by saying they can't do something as simple as talking about football.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Nedum Onuoha gives his own opinions on Joey Barton as he played with him for 7 seasons across two subs. Really enlightening, and not favourable to Barton one bit. **Joey Barton bits start at around 1:13:34**

Sn: This entire interview is good. Onuoha talks about his career, and experience with Mancini, his frustration with football pundits' laziness, his time at QPR as well as his time in the MLS and spat with Zlatan while there.

Sn2: Onuoha is a breath of fresh air in punditry, he's honest, level-headed and clearly thinks through and eloquently articulates his answers. He's also not swayed when a panel is trying to push an agenda he doesn't agree with. We need more like him in the game but unfortunately it's a strong fraternity and this interview likely won't earn him many friends there, not that he particularly cares tbf

Growing up around Manchester I heard about Nedum Onouha when he was at city. He was a rarity because he actually went to university and kept going with his studies side by side with his football. He was a talented player as well, very fast if memory serves.

He comes across really well (and always has done) and I'd rather listen to him than Micha Richards for example.

Why he's not been put into punditry I don't know, maybe because he's intelligent. There's really a lack of intelligent pundits around, people would rather listen to the Jamoe O'Haras of this world than people who can actually add something to the conversation.

Anyway, yeah Barton is a dick, always has been and probably always will be.

 

[Reece_Spurs]

The irony here as well is this thread is about Joey Barton being a bell end towards Eni Aluko who made the “goal a game” quote about Richarlison scoring 19 in 40.

Nope.

Ironically, this thread was made in 2012 about Joey Barton being a dick for many other reasons, it just got bumped recently. Ironic, isn't it?

 

[Reece_Spurs]

People have complained about Owen for years to be fair.

Plenty of people Said they switch off when he talks.

I know mate.

It's literally the point I was trying to make.

Fucking hell.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I think he goes about in a completely ridiculous manner to be honest. To be calling people serial killers and mocking people is stupid. These women will get even more online hate/threats of all sorts now than usual - for doing their job.

The fact is those women couldn’t have done much more in their fields. No they aren’t as great as the great Joey Barton (whose managerial career wasn’t much good anyway) and yes I do think they force it a bit with the women on the commentary tbh (I’m a woman). But he has gone all out attacking them based on that saying women shouldn’t commentate on men’s sports.

The way I see it is that we all chat about football. You have professionals like Carragher and Neville who supposedly top of their game-chatting rubbish and being incredibly biased too. I hate tokenism because it doesn’t reflect people’s skills but I also totally reject a blanket “women shouldn’t commentate on men’s football” or some such. It’s very shortsighted.

Just sounds like he angry he hasn’t got a job tbh.

Amen.

 

[rossdapep]

I know mate.

It's literally the point I was trying to make.

Fucking hell.

Yeah I think I was agreeing with you.

Plenty of male pundits had fans and like saying they shouldn't be a pundit.

 

[littlewilly]

Growing up around Manchester I heard about Nedum Onouha when he was at city. He was a rarity because he actually went to university and kept going with his studies side by side with his football. He was a talented player as well, very fast if memory serves.

He comes across really well (and always has done) and I'd rather listen to him than Micha Richards for example.

Why he's not been put into punditry I don't know, maybe because he's intelligent. There's really a lack of intelligent pundits around, people would rather listen to the Jamoe O'Haras of this world than people who can actually add something to the conversation.

Anyway, yeah Barton is a dick, always has been and probably always will be.

I’ve been listening to Nedum Onouha for years on the Guardian’s podcast. Always been impressive.

 

[Moonie]

Nope.

Ironically, this thread was made in 2012 about Joey Barton being a dick for many other reasons, it just got bumped recently. Ironic, isn't it?

No not at all.

this thread has popped back up due to Barton’s stupidity recently critising female players/pundits…namely Eni Aluko who has said Michael Owen esque things, you bought him up not me. If you wanna do mental gymnastics to assume I think Owen is a good pundit, then knock yourself out.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Interview with Nedum Onuoha who played with Barton at City and QPR. Lets just say he isn't a Joey fan and he sounds like a proper horrible little ****

video starts at Barton bit