Jenas: VAR is ‘a step in the wrong direction’

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Jermaine Jenas insists the penalty awarded to Manchester City with the help of VAR is "a step in the wrong direction."

Source: Independent
 

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Jermaine Jenas insists the penalty awarded to Manchester City with the help of VAR is "a step in the wrong direction."

Source: Independent
By the way the handball rule was laid out at the start of the season for Europe, it was the correct call. I think the issue is with the handball rule rather than VAR .
 

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In the Mail today, Mark Clattenburg says:

Rose's arm was outside his body and that, say UEFA, means the Spurs defender is making himself bigger. UEFA issued this instruction after similar incidents in the Champions League earlier in the season.

It was always going to be a penalty once it was referred to VAR and Rose knew it, you could tell by the way his body slumped. What I found interesting was that no City player appealed for the penalty and both sides seemed surprised when the game was stopped for the VAR check. This is because Premier League teams would not expect this sort of handball to be given as a penalty.


UEFA's instruction...
 

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Bollocks to that, the PSG vs. United one, I agree with as he jumped to block the ball and made himself wider, last night the arm's movement was natural when going to ground to challenge.

Can understand the law, but honestly feel that it doesn't apply to the situation last night.
 

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This is where the whole thing falls down IMO. I said in another thread (and got a bit of stick for it) that all VAR is going to do is move is from one set of controversies to another 'new' set of complaints. It's flawed in its current usage IMO.
 

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In the Mail today, Mark Clattenburg says:

Rose's arm was outside his body and that, say UEFA, means the Spurs defender is making himself bigger. UEFA issued this instruction after similar incidents in the Champions League earlier in the season.

It was always going to be a penalty once it was referred to VAR and Rose knew it, you could tell by the way his body slumped. What I found interesting was that no City player appealed for the penalty and both sides seemed surprised when the game was stopped for the VAR check. This is because Premier League teams would not expect this sort of handball to be given as a penalty.


UEFA's instruction...
I don't know about Clattenberg but my arm is permanently outside my body...:sick:
 

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then why was TAA not given, he raised this arm, as I said on another tread it all depends on the guy in the VAR what is interpretation of incident is and his view of the rule.
 

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then why was TAA not given, he raised this arm, as I said on another tread it all depends on the guy in the VAR what is interpretation of incident is and his view of the rule.
Only thing I can think of is the ball changed direction when Alison touched it, and at close proximity of TAA so had little time to adjust (though his arm moved) and wasn't trying to block a shot at this point also.
 

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Way too many subjective decisions to make in football, for VAR to be even close to perfect. But my biggest issue with it, is the clear and obvious rule, which seems non existent. So many big decisions being made, that are not clear and obvious mistakes from the officials.
Thought VAR was supposed to eradicate the obvious mistakes :confused:
 

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VAR, or any kind of video replay solution, is unsuitable for football, and only exists because of the outdated concept of television ruling the sport. It's bollocks.
 

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How else do they expect Rose/defenders to defend that ball. As Jenas said in commentary if you have to go down without your arms in that position you break your neck or acquire other injuries. That means UEFA would need to invent a new form of tackling which is stupid.
 

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The VAR incident that led to a penalty was farcical, if you apply the so called strict letter of the law then players making a sliding tackle clearance will do themselves an injury if they are forced to have their arms right by their sides as there will be nothing to break the force of their impact when they collide with the deck.

On the same night, there were far clearer cases for Fernandinho being set off for the elbow to Kane's head while he lay on the floor, and for Porto being awarded a penalty for Alexander Arnold's handball.
 

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Given some of the shocking VAR decisions or incidents that were either overlooked or went in certain teams favour last night I can only come to the conclusion that Piers Morgan and Jamie Carragher were given temporary charge of VAR officiating duties, and when Liverpool's 3rd was ruled offside, Carragher must have been in the loo having a number two.....
 

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Shockingly bad rule if that's how it's going to be interpreted. You can't challenge or try to block like that without your arms going up and anybody who's played the game would know that. At the exact moment that the ball hits Rose's arm, Toby is also attempting to block and his arms are in an isentical position to Rose's. Stupid, stupid rule made by stupid ,stupid people.
 

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The VAR incident that led to a penalty was farcical, if you apply the so called strict letter of the law then players making a sliding tackle clearance will do themselves an injury if they are forced to have their arms right by their sides as there will be nothing to break the force of their impact when they collide with the deck.

On the same night, there were far clearer cases for Fernandinho being set off for the elbow to Kane's head while he lay on the floor, and for Porto being awarded a penalty for Alexander Arnold's handball.
Since Kuipers saw this and decided to not take action, VAR weren't allowed to go in either way.
 

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Only way any form of VAR will work is if the whole game is monitored using it and the on field ref is simply a runner on the pitch to state what VAR says.
 
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