James Maddison

[ralphs bald spot]

I've never rated him much but even I can appreciate how much he has improved and he looks a really good player now. Not sure where he fits into our system though which is the only concern I'd have (and why I doubt we will sign him)

you can't see how a ball playing midfield player who scores and creates goals takes a mean free kick and who can play off the right hand side wouldn't fit into the system ?

He is exactly what we are crying out for

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

He is exactly what we are crying out for

What WE are crying out for, yes. What Conte is crying out for…?

 

[HildoSpur]

you can't see how a ball playing midfield player who scores and creates goals takes a mean free kick and who can play off the right hand side wouldn't fit into the system ?

He is exactly what we are crying out for

I'm not sure he fits with what Conte wants though. Look at the sort of players he was interested in for that position, Zaniolo, etc. - nothing like Maddison. Don't get me wrong if we signed him I'd be happy.

 

[hughy]

What WE are crying out for, yes. What Conte is crying out for…?

Didn't he say somewhere recently that he was considering 5-3-2 for the future? Maddison fits perfectly in that system with any 2 of our 4 first-team CM's.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

What WE are crying out for, yes. What Conte is crying out for…?

if its not it really ought to be as just having another option would improve the side immensely

 

[Timberwolf]

Fact of the matter is, if Conte doesn't feel a player like Maddison provides what he's looking for, we won't try to sign him unfortunately. Seems like Conte wants more of a direct dribbler like Zaniolo but personally I think someone creative and better in possession would be a better fit for our squad (and Maddison certainly isn't a poor dribbler, either). We've seen how ineffective we are in possession when we have 2 direct runners in those wide roles, and I don't think bringing another one in will really help us. Son and Rich turn the ball over so much between them, that it's self defeating. Better to have a direct runner at RWB and a more creative player at RF who can bring others into play (and also score goals).

His current role for Leicester is playing off the right, so I don't think he's have any issue being on the right of a 3, while in a 3-5-2 he could probably play as the most advanced in a midfield 3.

His FKs alone would get us 5 goals a season we're not getting right now and he'd create tons of chances for our forwards. With him rotating with Kulu on the right and Rich rotation with Kane and Son in the other 2 positions we'd be absolutely sorted.

We need to back Conte in the market so no point spending big money on Maddison if Conte doesn't want him, but this is one area where I disagree with Conte. I think Maddison would do much much better for us than Zaniolo.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I'm not sure he fits with what Conte wants though. Look at the sort of players he was interested in for that position, Zaniolo, etc. - nothing like Maddison. Don't get me wrong if we signed him I'd be happy.

one of the biggest problems we have is that we can't keep the ball, we give it away so cheaply time after time - the second half on Tuesday against a bog average side and we didn't build possession because we haven't got the players who can pass a ball progressively and move, the forwards are isolated with very few options the midfield so rarely goes beyond the ball and the full backs aren't good enough -

some of that I think is down to the system and being to deep but if we could add a player who could help to control the tempo of the game support and get beyond th the forwards it would help us retain the ball better then we would improve immensely and not be so reliant on hitting sides on the break and defending on the edge of our box - not signing that player in the summer literally bites us on the arse

 

[mr ashley]

Fact of the matter is, if Conte doesn't feel a player like Maddison provides what he's looking for, we won't try to sign him unfortunately. Seems like Conte wants more of a direct dribbler like Zaniolo but personally I think someone creative and better in possession would be a better fit for our squad (and Maddison certainly isn't a poor dribbler, either). We've seen how ineffective we are in possession when we have 2 direct runners in those wide roles, and I don't think bringing another one in will really help us. Son and Rich turn the ball over so much between them, that it's self defeating. Better to have a direct runner at RWB and a more creative player at RF who can bring others into play (and also score goals).

His current role for Leicester is playing off the right, so I don't think he's have any issue being on the right of a 3, while in a 3-5-2 he could probably play as the most advanced in a midfield 3.

His FKs alone would get us 5 goals a season we're not getting right now and he'd create tons of chances for our forwards. With him rotating with Kulu on the right and Rich rotation with Kane and Son in the other 2 positions we'd be absolutely sorted.

We need to back Conte in the market so no point spending big money on Maddison if Conte doesn't want him, but this is one area where I disagree with Conte. I think Maddison would do much much better for us than Zaniolo.

It’s quite frustrating because he is clearly very talented and it doesn’t take too much imagination to see how he could work in our setup.
he could even play on the left and play son on the right if conte wanted inverse forwards who can cut in and use their left foot to shoot at rwf in his system.

Personally I’m far from convinced about zaniolo as it is-he’s not a like for like replacement for kulusevski.
However we all know that backing conte is essential but there’s still no real reason why we didn’t go for him in the summer. We had the money and he had little time left on his contract. Now there’s talk that he’s going to extend at Roma so was it even a credible chase?

 

[stevespurs]

Hopefully we kept our powder dry enough in the summer, to be able to afford him.

I think he would add an extra passer we need up front. With Kane out of form, Maddison would suit us right now.

He’s not as big of a **** as he used to be. We all grow out of that stage?

 

[dontcallme]

Didn't he say somewhere recently that he was considering 5-3-2 for the future? Maddison fits perfectly in that system with any 2 of our 4 first-team CM's.

I think this is the key point. I’m think Maddison is an excellent player who is really maturing.

The big question is if Conte changes the formation to accommodate him.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I think this is the key point. I’m think Maddison is an excellent player who is really maturing.

The big question is if Conte changes the formation to accommodate him.

you should always be able to fit good players into your team - fitting in the bad players is a problem - as for Maddison he can play off the right not as a winger but as a player who joins in play from that side offering another body centrally which I would argue is eactly the option we need

 

[GutBucket]

I think this is the key point. I’m think Maddison is an excellent player who is really maturing.

The big question is if Conte changes the formation to accommodate him.

He can play on the right better than Richarlison.

 

[dontcallme]

you should always be able to fit good players into your team - fitting in the bad players is a problem - as for Maddison he can play off the right not as a winger but as a player who joins in play from that side offering another body centrally which I would argue is eactly the option we need

I’m not sure if it’s possible to be more wrong than that. Players are bought for their attributes all the time and certain teams clearly have weakness even when they have quality players.

The idea that just having a squad full of quality regardless of position and attributes is the the most nonsensical view I’ve read in a very long time.

 

[dontcallme]

He can play on the right better than Richarlison.

But he plays slightly deeper hence a change.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

I’m not sure if it’s possible to be more wrong than that. Players are bought for their attributes all the time and certain teams clearly have weakness even when they have quality players.

The idea that just having a squad full of quality regardless of position and attributes is the the most nonsensical view I’ve read in a very long time.

that's not exactly what I said though is it - I said you should be able to fit good players into your side - which is exactly what the manager is paid to do - largely football aint that complicated if you replace poor players with good players and set up to incorporate them into a system you have half a chance

 

[dontcallme]

that's not exactly what I said though is it - I said you should be able to fit good players into your side - which is exactly what the manager is paid to do - largely football aint that complicated if you replace poor players with good players and set up to incorporate them into a system you have half a chance

So fuck attributes and position. Just buy good players and the manager has to sort it out.

Another major point you’re ignoring here is that Maddison wouldn’t be replacing a poor player.

There is no level that your point makes any sense.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

So fuck attributes and position. Just buy good players and the manager has to sort it out.

Another major point you’re ignoring here is that Maddison wouldn’t be replacing a poor player.

There is no level that your point makes any sense.

we have to disagree on this one - I think your over complicating it a little bit it is Sunday morning - Maddison though is a good player who would give us options which we don't have its not difficult to see how he could fit into and improve a Spurs side which lacks so much on the ball in midfield

 

[dontcallme]

we have to disagree on this one - I think your over complicating it a little bit it is Sunday morning - Maddison though is a good player who would give us options which we don't have its not difficult to see how he could fit into and improve a Spurs side which lacks so much on the ball in midfield

Maddison was reportedly offered to us in the summer and Conte didn’t want him as he didn’t think he fits the team.

If it was just about quality of player, we’d surely have bought him.

Telling a manager to just fit good players into the team, is just nonsense.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Maddison was reportedly offered to us in the summer and Conte didn’t want him as he didn’t think he fits the team.

If it was just about quality of player, we’d surely have bought him.

Telling a manager to just fit good players into the team, is just nonsense.

was he ? who knows if that's true? I would suggest after watching us struggle to keep the ball for most of this season Conte maybe should be having a think about the options we have in midfield

 

[dontcallme]

was he ? who knows if that's true? I would suggest after watching us struggle to keep the ball for most of this season Conte maybe should be having a think about the options we have in midfield

According to itk, yes.