Is a back up/rotation striker now our only real priority for January?

[Ionman34]

That wouldn't be ideal IMO, the reason why I said a CB that can play DM, and remember I was stating my ideal situation, is for 2 reasons, 1) if we decided Dier's future is at CB, we can move him back to challenge for that role and move the other CB to DM, whilst still having Dier as an option if required. 2) if we need a DM but Dier is injured or suspended or we want to rest him, we have that second option, without having to buy another CM and without weakening our defence by moving Toby. Also there will be times we will want to rest Dier & Toby for the same game.

I can see your point. The good thing, as I see it, is that go either way and you strengthen.

Amazing really that, once the TW angst has settled, we really don't seem to be too far off.
The caveat to that though is injuries, suspensions and whether the squad players actually perform to the level required. Let's be honest here, we have high hopes for the likes of Winks and Prichard, but we haven't really seen them perform for us as yet.

 

[Ionman34]

I think Berahino is a no goer, his price is going up and with the kind of attitude he supposedly has it's potentially a very risky signing.

Maybe, but there are 2 reasons to argue against that;

1. His contract will have 6 months less on it

2. His attitude has been spot on since the window closed

I'm looking at his ability more than anything else though and I see a perfect fit for us IMHO

 

[Ledleys Knee]

I think everyone is agreed that we definitely need a backup/alternative Striker, so was wondering who people would most like to see bought in. Assuming that Berahino is no longer an option, Embolo or Batshuayi would be my personal choices.

Njie for me

 

[DanielCHillier]

Njie for me

Thought he was a winger rather than a striker, but would be interested to see how he does up front in Europa league maybe

 

[Mullers]

Maybe, but there are 2 reasons to argue against that;

1. His contract will have 6 months less on it

2. His attitude has been spot on since the window closed

I'm looking at his ability more than anything else though and I see a perfect fit for us IMHO

Didn't know that, West Brom must be shitting themselves, he would be competing with Kane for a starting place much different than West Brom. Having got our fingers burned with Adebayor it would be very silly of us to ignore his attitude problems of the past.

 

[Ionman34]

Didn't know that, West Brom must be shitting themselves, he would be competing with Kane for a starting place much different than West Brom. Having got our fingers burned with Adebayor it would be very silly of us to ignore his attitude problems of the past.

Well he wouldn't necessarily be competing with Kane. Both are very versatile, Berahino can play off either flank whilst Kane can move deep, wide, whatever.

It's important to remember that we are introducing this versatile movement into our forward players, Son, Lamela and Kane all seem to be building a good understanding of each other's movement and positioning. Berahino has already experienced playing with Kane and they have looked good together. They can interchange and, like with Lamela and Son, even Eriksen, when one moves out of a position, dragging his marker, the other moves into that space.

And Berahino can finish too.

His "attitude" I note, both the good and the bad. I have liked what I have seen this season. He's far from a player sulking, quite the opposite.

I'll take the evidence of my own eyes over unsubstantiated reports and rumours, my eyes tell me he'd fill his boots with us and add to what appears to be a promising dynamic up front.

It is more than possible we won't get him, but I honestly feel he would be a perfect fit, though I'll admit I haven't seen the likes of Embolo play, so I don't really know if he's just as viable.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Why an earth would anyone want to pay what Peace would demand for Berahino when you've seen Son offer goals plus a hell of a lot more ? Even the cursory glance we've had of N'Jie says he can probably offer the type of things Berahino can. In 26 minutes N'Jie has equalled Berahino's assist total in 3000 minutes last season.

 

[CowInAComa]

Berahino wouldnt be in the first 11. 25m seems a bit much for a bench warmer.

 

[CowInAComa]

In response to the OP. Its a tricky one because we dont want to cockblock the chances of the players we have coming through.

I think we may go in for a young striker, but cant see us undertaking a big money/name signing.

 

[npearl4spurs]

We have to give opportunities to Winks, Onomah, and Pritchard (when healthy) to see what we really have. If we could lock up our EL group as well, it would be good to see CCV by Wimmer to see how he does there.

 

[punkisback]

Why an earth would anyone want to pay what Peace would demand for Berahino when you've seen Son offer goals plus a hell of a lot more ? Even the cursory glance we've had of N'Jie says he can probably offer the type of things Berahino can. In 26 minutes N'Jie has equalled Berahino's assist total in 3000 minutes last season.

I agree. If Berahino would have cost circa £20 mil; imagine how much a 21 year old Defoe would go for in this day and age? The price for english youth or youth is ridiculous nowadays. He's a decent player, but scouting properly we can probably discover a cheaper hidden gem like N'Jie who has the technical qualities and superior physical qualities to Saido. It depends to be seen if he's as good as him, but if the physical and technical attributes are there you can train the intelligence and mentality.

 

[Ionman34]

Why an earth would anyone want to pay what Peace would demand for Berahino when you've seen Son offer goals plus a hell of a lot more ? Even the cursory glance we've had of N'Jie says he can probably offer the type of things Berahino can. In 26 minutes N'Jie has equalled Berahino's assist total in 3000 minutes last season.

Who said that?

I've said I think he'd be a perfect fit, nothing more. you don't agree? Fine.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Who said that?

I've said I think he'd be a perfect fit, nothing more. you don't agree? Fine.

I still have no idea how anyone could make the argument he'd be a perfect fit ? How ? Where ?

He's nothing like Kane so he wouldn't be a perfect replacement for him. And we have two quick wide attackers who can play up front and are both better from wide areas than him.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

I haven't seen Luke McGee but I don't want Vorm as back up to Lloris so if McGee isn't the answer then I'd like us to buy a young GK.

 

[Ionman34]

I still have no idea how anyone could make the argument he'd be a perfect fit ? How ? Where ?

He's nothing like Kane so he wouldn't be a perfect replacement for him. And we have two quick wide attackers who can play up front and are both better from wide areas than him.

Who? N'jie? 20 minutes told you this?

Chadli? Seriously? You've really been banging his drum hey?

You've missed my point though. What I am seeing is a burgeoning flexible frontline that interchanges. Berahino has this versatility. He can play as a #9, he can play as a wide forward and he can do all of them in 90 minutes, like Kane, though not as well.

He'd fit the system/style/philosophy whatever you want to call it.

Quite frankly, I'm amazed you can't see it yourself. I'm not interested in his value, for the merits of this discussion, just his suitability and, IMO, he's suitable.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Maybe, but there are 2 reasons to argue against that;

1. His contract will have 6 months less on it

2. His attitude has been spot on since the window closed

I'm looking at his ability more than anything else though and I see a perfect fit for us IMHO

Didn't know that, West Brom must be shitting themselves, he would be competing with Kane for a starting place much different than West Brom. Having got our fingers burned with Adebayor it would be very silly of us to ignore his attitude problems of the past.

It runs out in Summer 2017.

 

[Larryjanta]

Just want to see us add a new face to freshen things up and keep players on their toes. If someone falls into our laps who is better than we have. Great, but we shouldn't sign players for the sake of it

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Who? N'jie? 20 minutes told you this?

Chadli? Seriously? You've really been banging his drum hey?

You've missed my point though. What I am seeing is a burgeoning flexible frontline that interchanges. Berahino has this versatility. He can play as a #9, he can play as a wide forward and he can do all of them in 90 minutes, like Kane, though not as well.

He'd fit the system/style/philosophy whatever you want to call it.

Quite frankly, I'm amazed you can't see it yourself. I'm not interested in his value, for the merits of this discussion, just his suitability and, IMO, he's suitable.

We already have three players fulfilling that remit. Two of them are quick and hard working too. The one that isn't as quick and hard working also happens to be more productive per minute on the pitch than Berahino. And in terms of wide attackers we have players like Pritchard coming through as well. Why an earth would we pay an exorbitant fee just to add a 2nd/3rd or 4th choice to that list, it makes no sense at all, when that money could be used to strengthen an area we need strengthening more or buying a player better than Berahino.

 

[spurs9]

We already have three players fulfilling that remit. Two of them are quick and hard working too. The one that isn't as quick and hard working also happens to be more productive per minute on the pitch than Berahino. And in terms of wide attackers we have players like Pritchard coming through as well. Why an earth would we pay an exorbitant fee just to add a 2nd/3rd or 4th choice to that list, it makes no sense at all, when that money could be used to strengthen an area we need strengthening more or buying a player better than Berahino.

Not saying it has to be Berahino, but you can see the effect quick and good movement has had on the rest of the attack. We only have 2 players that fit this description, so, to make sure we always have an option available, IMO, we need to either bring in a striker that can play as a lone striker (freeing up one of Son or N'jie to always be an option alongside) or bring in another player that is quick with good movement or, in an ideal world, a player than can do/is both. IMO, Berahino, whilst not the perfect option, fits the description of both.

 

[Lighty64]

Sell Vorm? Why?

We're not honna get much better than him as a backup keeper. Vorm isn't that bad anyway, he just suffers from not being as good as Hugo.

I think Vorm's form is suffering from lack of games, and unfortunately he will only replace Hugo in cup games or an injury.

I'd not be shocked if Vorm eventually puts in a transfer request, which will be worrying, cause if we miss out on CL again, I think Hugo will be off next summer