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Ilaix Moriba

Colston

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Is it illegal or grey? If it's just a case of paying the agents the fees I think we should, if it's totally illegal then no. Are RB L willing to sign him regardless of the ethics?
In the UK the agency could be in breach of their fiduciary duty and would risk having their authorization withdrawn and be subject to civil liability.

I have no idea about German law, but most smart organizations should stay the fuck away from an obvious conflict of interest, if only to avoid the reputational damage being named in such a lawsuit could cause.
 
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arunspurs

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This is from a Leipzig fan account. Not sure, if this is true though

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doctor stefan Freud

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Anyone that has to train on a hotel roof because they’re too tight to fork out a tenner a month gym subscription is tighter than a dragon fly’s fanny piece.

Imagine him dodging pints at the Christmas do? For that reason he has to be got rid of, the wanker
 

spids

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Often wonder what the binding legal contract is between agent and player. I’m assuming there’s a standard contract with notice period and not as binding as a player (registration) contract with clubs. How easy is it for a player to dump his agent and move to a new one?
 

JerryGarcia

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We should try to sell Ndombele to Leipzig to clear the way for this guy. Just have to hope they've not been following the Premier league for the last few seasons ?
 

JerryGarcia

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At my work we operate with 3 risk levels in our assessments: (Examples of a type of risk in parenthesis)
1 - Individual risk (We risk that Moriba becomes unavailable due to a legal process)
2 - Group risk (We risk unsettling or distracting all of the players/staff, impacting our results)
3 - Business risk (We lose market value, profit and/or reputation/social capital)

There is also a matrix of likelihood and consequence severity to take into account, but I will not be delving into that because when you read my reasoning you will see that it still wouldn't have an impact on my conclusion.

In any minor business decision such as "Do I or do I not sign this player?" any proposals carrying risk of category 3 should be struck down before they are even evaluated. Minor decisions carrying business risks are unacceptable and should be avoided at all costs.

Risk of category 2 requires weighing up the pros and cons with a thorough analysis using the matrix I previously mentioned, and only after you have done that can you make a more informed decision as to whether or not you will be moving forward with the proposal.

Risk of category 1 is the least serious and as long as the proposal only carries risks at this level you can safely go forward with it, knowing that even if you do end up in the worst case scenario your business will be fine and you can keep operating as you would normally.

Safe to say I do not consider Moriba worth a risk of category 3. This deal should be avoided at all costs. Of course we would not be liable for anything legally as we are not the ones with a conflict of interest, but bad faith actors could pounce on any opportunity to drag our name through the mud regardless of what we have done, and that risk is unacceptable. Yes, I am mostly thinking of the tabloid media here who would have a field day if they could potentially involve us in some sort of bad faith scenario and it would generate lots of clicks for them.

Of course my assessment is just that, my assessment, and I happily admit to not knowing the facts on the ground, and I don't think I'm the best at my job, it's just that if I could potentially be impacting decision making I always favor erring on the side of caution.

And please keep in mind I'm talking about what is a pretty complicated process in something other than my native language, and I have also omitted a lot of the process for brevity's sake (even though this ended up a lot longer than I planned)

Don't omit anything, please give us the full process! :whistle:
 

mawspurs

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didn’t see it this morning, apologies.

I hadn’t realised his agents are German based, might explain a few things.
 
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One of the twitter ITKs (who tends to be somewhat reliable) has said that Barca offered us Pjanic and we've not bit.

Just as well - not sure if reportedly going for an 18 year old 'wunderkind' and coming back with an older bit of Barca deadwood would have work out well on here :cautious:
 
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