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cwy21

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Two times in NHL
2) Richard Zednik - lucky paramedics were on site to administer aid and get him to a hospital. But he wasn't close to death compared to Malarchuk. Still very fortunate to have quick medical attention.

It's not luck. An ambulance is always at an NHL game. Since 2014 there are at least three doctors at every game including an orthodontist and an emergency physician.
 

yawa

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I’ll make sure I never see the footage. Utterly terrible. I’ve watched ice hockey for most of my life and I’ve always been amazed that there aren’t more bad skate blade injuries, but this is just something else. Horrific.

My kid has to wear a neck protector. Really not sure why it stops being mandatory at 18.
 

carmeldevil

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It's not luck. An ambulance is always at an NHL game. Since 2014 there are at least three doctors at every game including an orthodontist and an emergency physician.
Both were before 2014. I watched the first one on tv as I’m a Blues fan. When they shifted the camera away, was confused. Took a while to get the info. NHL has come a long way since. Now they need to make neck guards mandatory
 

UncleBuck

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The player is going in left shoulder first to take out the defender and it looks like his left blade gets pulled out by the attackers right blade which flips him sideways.
First time I saw it I thought it was straight out of a Bruce Lee film and even now I still think that left leg is too straight…
However, he’s gone in full pelt with a shoulder charge at 15mph not expecting his blade to collide with the defender, then gone sideways from the impact and the natural reaction when aerial is to ‘stiffen up’ before hitting the deck.
Personally I think it’s just a tragic accident but then I’m no Bergerac
 

cwy21

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The player is going in left shoulder first to take out the defender and it looks like his left blade gets pulled out by the attackers right blade which flips him sideways.
First time I saw it I thought it was straight out of a Bruce Lee film and even now I still think that left leg is too straight…
However, he’s gone in full pelt with a shoulder charge at 15mph not expecting his blade to collide with the defender, then gone sideways from the impact and the natural reaction when aerial is to ‘stiffen up’ before hitting the deck.
Personally I think it’s just a tragic accident but then I’m no Bergerac

It was an accident. He was trying to deliver a legal check to the player with the puck as he crossed the blue line. His skate clipped with the other forward and with him in the process of changing direction his leg whipped up. Not even the biggest enforcer who gets suspended for illegal hits would ever try to do this intentionally.
 

fortworthspur

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It's not luck. An ambulance is always at an NHL game. Since 2014 there are at least three doctors at every game including an orthodontist and an emergency physician.
an othodontist? In case they need braces?
 

rossdapep

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The player is going in left shoulder first to take out the defender and it looks like his left blade gets pulled out by the attackers right blade which flips him sideways.
First time I saw it I thought it was straight out of a Bruce Lee film and even now I still think that left leg is too straight…
However, he’s gone in full pelt with a shoulder charge at 15mph not expecting his blade to collide with the defender, then gone sideways from the impact and the natural reaction when aerial is to ‘stiffen up’ before hitting the deck.
Personally I think it’s just a tragic accident but then I’m no Bergerac
I hadn't noticed that but you may be right. You can see some form of impact and that may have cause his leg to fling out as he was trying to gain control
 

Tucker

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Hard to comment as I’ve not and refuse to watch the video.

But I’d be very surprised if someone purposely tried to kill another player.
Over here manslaughter is the charge made when the attacker doesn’t intend to kill.
 

talkshowhost86

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Over here manslaughter is the charge made when the attacker doesn’t intend to kill.
It does have to be a criminal act that leads to death though.

I'm with Yawa that I wouldn't watch the video, but I'm not sure what criminal act the guy is supposed to have committed leading to the horrible incident.
 

Tucker

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It does have to be a criminal act that leads to death though.

I'm with Yawa that I wouldn't watch the video, but I'm not sure what criminal act the guy is supposed to have committed leading to the horrible incident.
I’ve watched it, it looks like a genuine accident to me. I know nothing about skating or hockey, so I’ve no idea how people’s bodies react when having collisions etc. So I’m not going to assume he kicks out looking to harm the other guy.
 

cwy21

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I'm not familiar with the standards required under UK law for an arrest but I'm really shocked it happened. It looks like his skate collided with another and his leg flew up to keep balance. An arrest seems insane to me.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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But I’d be very surprised if someone purposely tried to kill another player.

Manslaughter definitions vary by jurisdiction a little bit, but by and large it does not require that a person intended to kill another.

Basically it means "You did an act, and that act killed someone." The more intentional the act, the more culpability, and harsher penalty. "Murder" being the most intentional form of manslaughter - and even "murder" has varying degrees.



It is exceptionally rare for a player to be charged with a crime for on court/field/ice actions - but it's not unprecedented. I've not seen the play, so I can't really comment - but I assume there is some evidence that the death was caused by negligence at a minimum.

(I also don't think it's clear that the person arrested was the player - but I could be wrong on that. He would be the most likely person to be arrested, but I don't know if there was faulty equipment, or some such thing.)
 

taidgh

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The player is going in left shoulder first to take out the defender and it looks like his left blade gets pulled out by the attackers right blade which flips him sideways.
First time I saw it I thought it was straight out of a Bruce Lee film and even now I still think that left leg is too straight…
However, he’s gone in full pelt with a shoulder charge at 15mph not expecting his blade to collide with the defender, then gone sideways from the impact and the natural reaction when aerial is to ‘stiffen up’ before hitting the deck.
Personally I think it’s just a tragic accident but then I’m no Bergerac
Yeah, I agree. The clip on his skate caused him to lose balance to his right, which causes him to lean right and his left leg to go up.

I will defer to the judgement of those who have played the sport, but to me it looks like an awful accident. You'd think that sticking your skate into someone would be the ultimate, ultimate taboo, and not something done out of a fit of pique.
 
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