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Gerrard has been fucking shit all year
Comparatively. That's what happens when you're generally awesome week in, week out for your club. Oh for Jenas to have an 'off season' like Gerrard.
Gerrard has been fucking shit all year
For my part, I think he's a decent player who's flying at the mo. He's clearly never been 'shit', so anyone asking for him out was obviously deluded. But I think people are over-hyping him a bit at the mo.
Hi guilty party - you're right JJ has never been 'shit' but lots and I mean lots of deluded fans on various sites and worse at the Lane decided he was and gave him loads of ignorant abuse that could have easily destroyed his confidence and driven him out of the club -
those people (and Spurs 'boo boys' have a long inglorious tradition of scapegoating players going back to Venables and beyond) do nothing for the club - they are a hindrance - 'paying your money' doesn't give people a right to damage the club
If it was a 'one-off' incident I (and I'd hope other JJ fans) would let it go - but as I say it's been an appalling part of the 'Lane experience' for way too long
now it seems that there's a groundswell to start picking on Bent - I just don't want it to happen and if it starts will campaign aas vigourously against that as I have on behalf of JJ & Lee
Fair point, DC. But to pick on Bent is absolutely ridiculous, the guy's barely played, yet you're always going to get that kind of supporter. Hell, my Dad hates Keane, and used to hate Anderton too. It's completely illogical. A lot of people need someone to blame every game. But I think it's important for intelligent debate that we recognise there's more than two camps, and just because some of us (and I've done it quite a few times) criticise Jenas, it doesn't mean we think he's shit per se. Good players have bad games and vice versa.
And Chris, yeah, he wasn't playing well, but he was never shit. Think there's a fundamental difference between a shit player and player who happens to be playing shit, which is what I think he was alluding to.
Jenas is clearly a talented chap, which is what makes him ballsing things up (as he has from time to time) so frustrating. It's easier to accept someone's failings when you know their shit.
intelligent debate about JJ or any player is great - but one of the things that a lot of 'JJ bashers' (and I'm not saying anyone on this thread did this) was to decide that because, in their view, JJ wasn't playing to his full potential he became fair game for ridiculous levels of abuse that were hardly likely to help the lad.
I've no idea what you wrote in the past or whether you've given the Lane the benefit of your views on JJ
He has everything? I would say Kaka has everything. Maybe Gerrard. Jenas? Don't get me wrong, I am not a massive boo-boy and I do acknowledge his potential and current improvement but everything is just too far-fetch.
Like some has said, he just don't possess the creativity. He has great engine, movement but he does not have a great range of passing nor superb dribbling ability. Even Scholes have more in his pocket than him. I hope he can improve further and may have the chance to reach their level but I am also realistic in knowing that he is nowhere near their level at the moment. The fact that Ramos had to limit his role to utilise his strengths better clearly illustrates this fact.