Hillsborough e-petition

[Spur-of-the-moment]

This is a matter for all football fans but Spurs fans should have a special interest.

It's a petition that calls for full government disclosure and publication of all documents, discussions and reports relating to the 1989 Hillsborough disaster. This disclosure has already been requested by the Information Commissioner, Christopher Graham, but the government has been blocking this through inaction.

Click here and sign the petition.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2199

Spurs fans at the 1981 FA Cup Semi-Final against Wolves were allocated the smaller Leppings Lane end at Hillsborough despite having a far larger support. There was a crush and 38 were injured. As a result the FA shifted the FA Cup Semi-Final away from Hillsborough for the next 6 years to allow for safety changes to be made. It returned in 1987. That year and the next there continued to be problems with crushing and pitch-side gates had to be opened. Despite these warning signs, the FA fixed the FA Cup Semi-Final tie for Hillsborough in 1989.

96 fans died: the worst disaster in English football history. It was the result of cumulative negligence by the FA, by Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, the city council and policing strategies that treated all football fans as the enemy. Catastrophic errors were made by the police on the day and the ground was lacking in basic safety.

The information sought by the families of the victims, as well as all others interested in justice, will cast more light on the hidden events of the day itself. It will also reveal any actions by key people inside government at the time, actions that may have covered-up key aspects of the scandal and promoted the slander of the fans.

So far there are 73,950 signatures.

100,000 are required for the petition to be discussed in the House of Commons.

So sign up now!

 

[Legacy]

I signed it, and it somehow managed to drop from 73,950 signatures to just 73,918.

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

Saw that: must have been a temporary glitch.

It's now 73,991

 

[hugrr]

Signed it, 74201 now

 

[Wellspurs]

Signed it, I wonder if well known Spurs fan Nicky Wire of the Manics logs on here?

Manics done a song about the tragedy Sout South Yorkshire, I think?

Woner if Welshieboy is really Nicky Wire?

 

[t7ny]

What's the point, who cares? Why don't we sign a petition to reopen the sinking of the Titanic?

Have I missed something here, is there a sinister story behind what happened on that day?

 

[Spurs_Q8]

wish i can be helpful but given this :

You must be a UK citizen or normally live in the UK to create or sign e-petitions.

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

What's the point, who cares? Why don't we sign a petition to reopen the sinking of the Titanic?

Have I missed something here, is there a sinister story behind what happened on that day?

Clearly you have. Hope it doesn't happen too often.


74,518 signatures.

 

[Legend10]

I was there in 81 and it could so easily have been our disaster and not Liverpool's!

Signed 74,554

 

[Lachster the Yid]

What's the point, who cares? Why don't we sign a petition to reopen the sinking of the Titanic?

Have I missed something here, is there a sinister story behind what happened on that day?

Seriously? :duh:

 

[#1 Spur]

What's the point, who cares? Why don't we sign a petition to reopen the sinking of the Titanic?

Have I missed something here, is there a sinister story behind what happened on that day?

Hmmmmmm.....WTF?!

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

T7ny by name
T7ny by bra7n


75,251 signatures
& over three-quarters of the way there

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2199

sign up, stick this up on Facebook, Tweet it...

 

[wallyjakeman]

wish i can be helpful but given this :

You must be a UK citizen or normally live in the UK to create or sign e-petitions.

This. Why only UK citizens?

 

[hugrr]

This. Why only UK citizens?

Because if a petition gets to 100,000 signatures, it gets discussed in the UK parliament. So it's only open to citizens eligible to vote in the UK.

 

[Azrael]

Because if a petition gets to 100,000 signatures, it gets discussed in the UK parliament. So it's only open to citizens eligible to vote in the UK.

This is actually disingenuous. It matters not if you are a British Citizen for something to be discussed in Parliament. It only applies to those wishing to sit in Parliament as a member.

 

[EastLondonYid]

I was in the middle pen in 1981, shit myself!! we were lucky as the old bill opened the front gate and we got out. We walked round and watched the game on the larger terrace above the left corner flag......it was no joke believe me.

 

[stevenqoz]

Was there that day......now signed it

 

[class of 62]

i was there that day & was led along the side of the pitch to the kop end because of the crush from too many fans packed into one small standing area!!.. a gap had been made up one side of the kop end to accomodate the overspill of spurs fans .. neverthe less it went off with the wolves fans.
i was no angel at the time at football & willingly fought with the wolves fans for basically the whole game... for once though it was for mine & other spurs fans protection as south yorkshire police did nothing but let wolves fans attack us thrioughout..
the stadium & authourities where totally unprepared that day & never learnt a thing from it & the results 6 years later prove it.
willingly signed although i feel its far to late.

 

[Spur-of-the-moment]

i was there that day & was led along the side of the pitch to the kop end because of the crush from too many fans packed into one small standing area!!.. a gap had been made up one side of the kop end to accomodate the overspill of spurs fans .. neverthe less it went off with the wolves fans.
i was no angel at the time at football & willingly fought with the wolves fans for basically the whole game... for once though it was for mine & other spurs fans protection as south yorkshire police did nothing but let wolves fans attack us thrioughout..
the stadium & authourities where totally unprepared that day & never learnt a thing from it & the results 6 years later prove it.
willingly signed although i feel its far to late.

class of 62, It really does show how poorly football fans were treated in those days. It wasn't just a safety issue, it was the contempt by central government, the FA, the football club owners, local councils and the mass media for those who went to football. An enclosed 'pen' is for animals but that is precisely what the fenced-in areas at the Leppings Lane end were called.

The events of the day have been investigated by Taylor, who found catastrophic decision-making by the police; bad design, safety standards and signage in the ground; incompetent crowd management inside and outside the ground by police and stewards; and so on. Taylor also addressed the longer term problems, including poor attitudes and standards on the part of the FA and the City Council. Things have certainly changed.

But there was another scandal. It was the deliberate and appalling attempt to blame the Liverpool fans themselves, whom Taylor later exonerated completely. The smear campaign, lies through-and-through, involved senior police, Sheffield Wednesday club officials and the popular press. But was central government involved?

The infamous Sun front-page story represented one of the lowest points in English journalism. It accused the Liverpool fans of atrocious crimes: pickpocketing the dead, assaulting a policeman who was attempting to resuscitate a victim, urinating on dead bodies, as well as the police and rescue services, and, wait for this, abusing a dead girl. The Sun, as well as others, alleged that the dead victims had been drunk. The story going around was that a drunken crowd had stormed the gates outside the ground and caused the crush. It was a systematic attempt to blame the Liverpool fans, including the dead themselves, for the catastrophe. It was all lies - every last word.

This myth remains important today since some politicians, journalists and even fans still put Hillsborough in the same category of Heysel: a problem of football disorder. A problem caused by the supporters themselves. Not true.

But there is another question. How did this farrago of lies affect the West Midlands Police investigation and the conduct of the inquest? This remains painful for the bereaved families today who see a miscarriage of justice.

Perhaps the most important question is about who in central government helped spread the lies and thereby undermined the process of justice.

The disclosure of documents called for by this petition may help answer these vital questions which are just as important today as they were then.

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2199

The signature count is now 76,400.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

What's the point, who cares? Why don't we sign a petition to reopen the sinking of the Titanic?

Have I missed something here, is there a sinister story behind what happened on that day?

You're obviously ignorant about the subject, so why act all sarcastic and snooty about it?