Has Defoe lost a yard?

[RickyVilla]

If Defoe loses a yard he will be about 1 cm tall.

 

[The Apprentice]

They were both absolutely screaming for the ball to be pulled back but Giovani chose the wrong option on one occasion. They gave him a proper bollocking for it too.

Why were they both hanging back? The easier ball for a winger attacking the by line is across the keeper.

One of them, not necessarily Defoe, should have taken that option.

 

[double0]

Defoe's movement IMO has always been underrated, people will only remember him being offside...I've never seen Defoe as a quick player but his first four steps are.

 

[cusop]

Only on his dick, cos he moved pretty fast against the Oirish the other night

 

[benski]

doesn't matter we will sell him before he loses value just as we did with crouch

 

[Krafty]

Gio's cross - it was a fabulous ball and anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what they are talking about. You put a ball across the six yard box and no one is there it is not the fault of the cross. Defoe wanted the ball pulled back because he was involved in the build up and wouldnt have got into the six yard box if he was riding a rocket. Pav on the other hand didnt move at all. He was the one futherest forward when the play was building up, he should have been the one getting near the six yard box and tapping in an easy goal, but as I've noticed too often from him he can be alarmingly static in the penalty box.

Defoe has lost a touch of pace but he has put on bulk to increase his strength. He's still quick but he's much stronger. He doesn't play on the shoulder so much now, he said himself he was looking forward to playing with Adebayor because it would allow him to drop deep and get on the ball.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Gio's cross - it was a fabulous ball and anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what they are talking about. You put a ball across the six yard box and no one is there it is not the fault of the cross. Defoe wanted the ball pulled back because he was involved in the build up and wouldnt have got into the six yard box if he was riding a rocket. Pav on the other hand didnt move at all. He was the one futherest forward when the play was building up, he should have been the one getting near the six yard box and tapping in an easy goal, but as I've noticed too often from him he can be alarmingly static in the penalty box.

Defoe has lost a touch of pace but he has put on bulk to increase his strength. He's still quick but he's much stronger. He doesn't play on the shoulder so much now, he said himself he was looking forward to playing with Adebayor because it would allow him to drop deep and get on the ball.

How about wind your fucking neck in? I was directly behind Giovani when he crossed it, completely in the wrong place for where the two forwards wanted it, and as I said earlier got a bollocking from both of them, for which he held his hand up to apologise.

Patronising fuck. He made totally the wrong decision. One of the only times he did that in the whole game for which he's had more than enough credit for.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I have just caught the tail end of this one and I presume you boys are talking about the cross that Gio flashed across their goalmouth in the first half. I was half mystified by Defoe's reaction-he had no right to berate Gio. Passing to him just wasn't on. Pav and Lennon were the ones who ought to have been gambling on that cross but both of them were fast asleep.

 

[ethanedwards]

I have just caught the tail end of this one and I presume you boys are talking about the cross that Gio flashed across their goalmouth in the first half. I was half mystified by Defoe's reaction-he had no right to berate Gio. Passing to him just wasn't on. Pav and Lennon were the ones who ought to have been gambling on that cross but both of them were fast asleep.

Excellent post,as Mr Burns would say.
It was a good ball, across the keeper, begging for a touch.
As Lineker said, if you make enough runs in the box , you will get the goals.

 

[raf18]

Was Defoe's fault. How many times does a ball flash across the face of goal like that? It happens every season several times. Nobody busting a gut to get onto it. Sure Defoe was involved in the build up, but that's not his role. He should be in the box attacking the goalmouth - not dallying around the edge. Hernandez would have scored.

Gio apologised but he had nothing to apologise for. It was a great cross but poor attacking movement from the strikers. Pulling it back is less liely to result in a goal than a ball that is rolled across the goalmouth.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

How about wind your fucking neck in? I was directly behind Giovani when he crossed it, completely in the wrong place for where the two forwards wanted it, and as I said earlier got a bollocking from both of them, for which he held his hand up to apologise.

Patronising fuck. He made totally the wrong decision. One of the only times he did that in the whole game for which he's had more than enough credit for.

He made the "totally wrong decision" before that when he tried to shoot from a tight angle. I'm not sure where you were sitting had much to do with what happened, but from where I was sitting (and I've just watched it again on telly) cutting it back for Defoe or Pav would have been very hard without hitting the defender as he was out pacing him on the outside, but Pav should have been running into the six yard box as GDS was pulling ahead out wide, making the type of cross he delivered far more likely and Defoe was arriving behind/level with him (Pav) as well.

It wasn't "totally the wrong decision" and he certainly didn't apologise when Defoe berated him, he shrugged and grumbled back at him. It was a combination of him doing what wide players sometimes do, get a toe past the defender on the outside and whip a ball into a dangerous area and none of our attackers reading this possibility and gambling and going in there.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

He made the "totally wrong decision" before that when he tried to shoot from a tight angle. I'm not sure where you were sitting had much to do with what happened, but from where I was sitting (and I've just watched it again on telly) cutting it back for Defoe or Pav would have been very hard without hitting the defender as he was out pacing him on the outside, but Pav should have been running into the six yard box as GDS was pulling ahead out wide, making the type of cross he delivered far more likely and Defoe was arriving behind/level with him (Pav) as well.

It wasn't "totally the wrong decision" and he certainly didn't apologise when Defoe berated him, he shrugged and grumbled back at him. It was a combination of him doing what wide players sometimes do, get a toe past the defender on the outside and whip a ball into a dangerous area and none of our attackers reading this possibility and gambling and going in there.

Ok you stick to the TV version, I can give you a transcript of the conversation between them if you want? I'm not saying Pav/Defoe shouldn't have anticipated it, but when you have two people screaming for the ball and choose the 'other' option you could and quite rightly will be accused of making the wrong decision. As he was.

 

[teejay]

No point pulling it back when forwards are behind defenders! Gio made the right choice

 

[Spurs_Bear]

No point pulling it back when forwards are behind defenders! Gio made the right choice

:lol: yeah of course. Instead of trying to find his teammates he chose the other option where none of them were. Good one.

 

[Locotoro]

Ok you stick to the TV version, I can give you a transcript of the conversation between them if you want? I'm not saying Pav/Defoe shouldn't have anticipated it, but when you have two people screaming for the ball and choose the 'other' option you could and quite rightly will be accused of making the wrong decision. As he was.

Sorry SpursBear, I have to say when I saw it (in the stands and later on TV) I was fuming at Pav for not taking a gamble and getting to the back post. The ball by Gio was exactly what you would expect from a winger in that situation. If my memory serves me correctly Townsend had a similar opportunity to which no one gambled and made the run.

Under normal circumstances its the job of the deeper attacker (Defoe) or the opposite winger (Lennon/Townsend) to get to the back post simply because they can see the play in front of them more clearly than the leading attacker (Pav). Considering Defoe started the move it would have been difficult for him to get there but I dont think it is accurate to say Gio made the wrong decision.

 

[teejay]

The problem has been in my opinion in many games that our forwards tend to play those kind of situations in same line, many times hardly trying to get away from defender. They should be playing in different lines and give more options for the pass, other one pulling back, other one going for the goal-line. And like Locotoro said, other winger should be going for the backpost, what we never ever see from lennon...

 

[ShelfSide18]

How about wind your fucking neck in? I was directly behind Giovani when he crossed it, completely in the wrong place for where the two forwards wanted it, and as I said earlier got a bollocking from both of them, for which he held his hand up to apologise.

Patronising fuck. He made totally the wrong decision. One of the only times he did that in the whole game for which he's had more than enough credit for.

It was the perfect ball from Giovanni across the face of goal, just none of Defoe/Pav/Lennon had the foresight, effort or anticipation to attack the goal. Watch Bayerns first goal against Man City in midweek, as soon as Ribery cut inside off the flank Mueller attacked the goal and got lucky with the rebound after the keeper saved Ribery's shot. It really pisses me off when someone fizzes a great ball in between keeper and defence only to see Pav and Defoe stood flat footed moaning at the crosser.

 

[chinaman]

It was the perfect ball from Giovanni across the face of goal, just none of Defoe/Pav/Lennon had the foresight, effort or anticipation to attack the goal. Watch Bayerns first goal against Man City in midweek, as soon as Ribery cut inside off the flank Mueller attacked the goal and got lucky with the rebound after the keeper saved Ribery's shot. It really pisses me off when someone fizzes a great ball in between keeper and defence only to see Pav and Defoe stood flat footed moaning at the crosser.

That's the Keane effect.

 

[Bobishism]

Pav often drops off the defender to pick up the cross. I guess it was poor communication, probably from the three not actually playing much football together. Adebayor would've probably scored that.

 

[Krafty]

How about wind your fucking neck in? I was directly behind Giovani when he crossed it, completely in the wrong place for where the two forwards wanted it, and as I said earlier got a bollocking from both of them, for which he held his hand up to apologise.

Patronising fuck. He made totally the wrong decision. One of the only times he did that in the whole game for which he's had more than enough credit for.

He created a chance for someone to tap in from six yards. As I said I can understand why Defoe wasn't on hand, but Pav has no excuse.

Just because no one was there doesn't mean it wasn't a good ball. It takes two to tango