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Frank Blank

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When all is said and done I want players who want to play for this club. If they don't then they can jog on. No-one is exempt from this, even Harold.
 

wrd

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Harry Kane: "Bayern is definitely a different pressure compared to what I felt at Spurs. Of course we wanted to win things at Spurs but if you went a couple of games without winning then it wasn't a disaster. The feeling at Bayern is that you have to win every game."

Clearly, this man never went on this forum. I think what this quote tells me is that there is a huge disconnect between the reality of the fans and the reality of the team and there needs to be some connection. I'd say if I was to choose an attitude, I'd rather the fans one was adopted for all of our faults, I'd argue that the attitudes around winning and losing need to actually flip. We'd be better calming down and they'd be better acting as if it's life or death.
 

wrd

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I think this is a poor effort to combine two thing's that are clearly exclusive.

One premise is that he said he prioritises team honours ahead of individual honours. The other other is that he shows gratitude at his teammates contribution to his individual honours. If anything, this serves to back up his point, not diminish it.
 

chas vs dave

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He's gone to Bayern to trophy pad his career. They aren't winning the league because kane is there. They won the league out of form and with chupo moteng as their striker. Says it all.

In fact, if they don't win the champions league during his time, then he will be deemed a failure.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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He's gone to Bayern to trophy pad his career. They aren't winning the league because kane is there. They won the league out of form and with chupo moteng as their striker. Says it all.

In fact, if they don't win the champions league during his time, then he will be deemed a failure.

He won't though.

Only Spurs fans will say that, the other 99% of the football fanbase will say what they've said about every player that's left and won any trophy, he had to leave Spurs to win something.
 

chas vs dave

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He won't though.

Only Spurs fans will say that, the other 99% of the football fanbase will say what they've said about every player that's left and won any trophy, he had to leave Spurs to win something.
I get that, but bayern aren't buying kane to win the bundesliga. They can do that with any striker. It will be deemed a failure if they don't.
 

soflapaul

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What an indictment on German football. "I left the most competitive league in football because one of the top clubs in the world has such little competition that there is unbelieveable pressure to win every game convincingly."

I suspect the real reason he went there was playing for a team who should go deep into the CL because it's a "giant" with a relatively easy domestic schedule as well as an increased possibility of baloon d'Or. The second is a much greater possibility for a profilic goalscorer in a a less competitive but still one of the "big leagues". God speed Harry but you need a PR specialist around you to train you what to say.
 

olithfc

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in his mind he stayed too long at Tottenham and outgrew the club. He probably resents the club a bit as a result.
In 5 years he will probably think differently about the club which will have moved on anyway.
In the meantime, the sly digs are irritating and it would be nice if the post kane era gave us some trophies. We really need to get that monkey off our backs (and not an isolated league cup) to change the perception of the club
 

wrd

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He won't though.

Only Spurs fans will say that, the other 99% of the football fanbase will say what they've said about every player that's left and won any trophy, he had to leave Spurs to win something.

If we're honest with ourselves, we're hurt he's moved on, we're hurt he's telling the truth, we're hurt he's saying what we all fear.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I get that, but bayern aren't buying kane to win the bundesliga. They can do that with any striker. It will be deemed a failure if they don't.

I agree with you, but who will deem it a failure? I genuinely think the only people who will say that will be spurs fans.
 

Martinhotspur

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What an indictment on German football. "I left the most competitive league in football because one of the top clubs in the world has such little competition that there is unbelieveable pressure to win every game convincingly."

I suspect the real reason he went there was playing for a team who should go deep into the CL because it's a "giant" with a relatively easy domestic schedule as well as an increased possibility of baloon d'Or. The second is a much greater possibility for a profilic goalscorer in a a less competitive but still one of the "big leagues". God speed Harry but you need a PR specialist around you to train you what to say.
He won't win the ballon d'Or wearing sketchers
 

tobi

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Honestly, to me, it's a bit sad. He doesn't care about allegiances or being held up as a hero, all he wants to do is tick a box that says he won something. That's his sole motivation. That doesn't scream "winner's mentality" to me, more that he's desperate to avoid the embarrassment of having been one of the best players to never win anything.
Its the football equivalent of ring culture in the NBA where people try and look down on you if you've never won the NBA Finals.

No one with common sense will say that Charles Barkley or Steve Nash weren't great players and aren't deserving of being in the Hall of Fame just because they didn't win anything. Barkley played in the Michael Jordan era and Steve Nash and my Suns used a system that was ten years ahead of its time but never got to the Finals.

This notion that Kane deserves to win something, especially compared to the rest of our squad is rubbish IMO.

Team sports is like that, not everyone will win and that means that many great players will miss out, there is no shame in that.
 

RuskyM

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If we're honest with ourselves, we're hurt he's moved on, we're hurt he's telling the truth, we're hurt he's saying what we all fear.
I’m more annoyed that he was arguing the mentality of the team wasn’t there when he was a big part of said team and could have done something about it. Hell, he said the same thing in 2021 about players not being men or some shit. Can’t always be everyone else.
 

wrd

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I’m more annoyed that he was arguing the mentality of the team wasn’t there when he was a big part of said team and could have done something about it. Hell, he said the same thing in 2021 about players not being men or some shit. Can’t always be everyone else.

He's only one man. I'd be lying if I said I felt he didn't necessarily have what Drogba or Gerrard had in the big moments but he gave everything he had and they're few in world football who in their role as 1 out of 11 contributed more. He scored our goals, he was our playmaker, he was probably other than Romero, our best defender as well given how much he did in our own box. He needed help.

My sadness is that, Ange was the exact help he needed. Kane could work within the constraints, the others couldn't.
 

wrd

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Its the football equivalent of ring culture in the NBA where people try and look down on you if you've never won the NBA Finals.

No one with common sense will say that Charles Barkley or Steve Nash weren't great players and aren't deserving of being in the Hall of Fame just because they didn't win anything. Barkley played in the Michael Jordan era and Steve Nash and my Suns used a system that was ten years ahead of its time but never got to the Finals.

This notion that Kane deserves to win something, especially compared to the rest of our squad is rubbish IMO.

Team sports is like that, not everyone will win and that means that many great players will miss out, there is no shame in that.

Yeah deserves is a word that needs deleting from our lives :LOL:
 

philll

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Its the football equivalent of ring culture in the NBA where people try and look down on you if you've never won the NBA Finals.

No one with common sense will say that Charles Barkley or Steve Nash weren't great players and aren't deserving of being in the Hall of Fame just because they didn't win anything. Barkley played in the Michael Jordan era and Steve Nash and my Suns used a system that was ten years ahead of its time but never got to the Finals.

This notion that Kane deserves to win something, especially compared to the rest of our squad is rubbish IMO.

Team sports is like that, not everyone will win and that means that many great players will miss out, there is no shame in that.
I think that's it, I think the idea of finishing his career without winning something terrifies him. Everything that he's spent the last decade building goes out the window (to the point where it's almost like he's embarrassed to have ever been associated with us) and he goes off to a league where at least one trophy is all but guaranteed every season.
 

glacierSpurs

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Exactly. He wouldn't even have to go to the effort of tweeting anything, just a like here and there would be a really low-effort way to kind of stay engaged with the fans and show that his affection for Tottenham wasn't as paper-thin as it very clearly is. If he'd gone to a club in the same league I could maybe understand his silence but the way he's been about us since moving just seems so off, like he's just "switched off" his attachment to Tottenham and there's no emotional connection there whatsoever.
This. His current posts have tonnes of ex Spurs liking them, Son especially. I don't see him doing that to many of our current players. Even the birthday post from the club that has multiple montages of players was not bothered by him - one would have thought the record goal scorer for the club would have given it a simple like. I mean, well, the club put Son as the largest pic right in the top centre and Kane was positioned so off below, even smaller than Keane, all these said something. But still...
 
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