Harry Kane

[neogenisis]

Not entirely huge news but Falk saying that Bayern directors want breakthrough tomorrow and have set an internal deadline. Title is a bit clickbaity saying Kane could have played his last game for Spurs (lol)

Love this. *Look we want him, lets say we want him signed by next Tuesday, but lets NOT tell anyone HAHAHHAHAHHA, cant wait for the look on those Spurs faces.*

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

Appearing less and less in social media posts by club. They know he’s going.

 

[SHAMON]

Been reading this thread for a while now.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the way I see it is:
Kane is holding all the cards. Why would he leave now when he could have his pick of clubs in a year with a massive signing on fee + wages
We’re better off with Kane than without. Whether Richarlison is a good fit for Ange's style of football or not, Kane has shown himself to score goals in a great team and a shit team (both Spurs)
As a fan I’d rather keep him for a year longer and possibly persuade him to stay.
As for the transfer fee… it’s not my money and I couldn’t care less about Levy’s bonus or paying off the stadium.
And breathe…

 

[krafty007]

To Dare is to do!!
Keep Kane, increase the chane of getting CL football next year, opportunity to attract better quality players next year and more revenue,
From Kanes point of view he increases his goal tally I the PL and for spurs, it will be a long time before his record beaten , and Dare I say he has one last season to win silverware with us!!
He then goes on a free and we act like one of the big clubs
COYS

 

[olliec]

No Kane

 

[southlondonyiddo]

No Kane

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Kulu looks like a fucked up lovechild of Jan & Daws

 

[EastUpperDK82]

No Kane

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He can't be in every picture or advertisement ... would be pretty boring...

 

[robotsonic]

Bit tinfoil looking at the social media posts as you really have to work hard to ignore the times that the club does feature him to decide that they're avoiding doing so.

He was literally in a video yesterday going to visit underprivileged kids, and the club account are retweeting his tweets.

 

[Dunc2610]

No Kane

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No Son, No Benta, No Ange.....etc

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

No Kane

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They nailed the sketch of our new CB though

 

[Ben1]

No Kane

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Lot of people missing, going to be a long season with just the 4 lads

 

[Gpnash84]

No Kane

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Will we be announcing 'Kitoff' as our official underwear partner soon?

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Conte & Mourinho are would class managers and they’ll assess their squads accordingly

Since we build the shiny new stadium our 1st XI squad has gone to shit. Trying to get the ball to Kane & Sonny asap and setting up around them was pretty much our only options

We no longer had great holding players or ball players like Dembele/Modric/Eriksen or a fantastic defence with Toby/Jan/Danny/Kyle

Some people still don’t realise how ordinary and stale our football team had become

Conte and Mourinho both seemed relatively content to rely on Kane's brilliance to provide our goals and creativity.

Conte blocked us from signing Eriksen on free transfer, so it's rather ironic that you've cited the lack of players like Eriksen as a reason for Conte setting up the team as he did.
Conte possibly put the brakes on us signing Maddison, who seemed the obvious alternative to Eriksen (that is speculation though, as Leicester may have been reluctant to negotiate).
Conte froze Lo Celso out of the squad, seemingly without giving him a chance. This was presumably because he was deemed not to fit Conte's system, rather than because we had better creative options in CM.
Conte also failed to utilise Bissouma, who isn't a million miles away from Dembele in terms of style of play and is shining in pre-season within a more offensive / positive system.
All of the above indicates that Conte wanted to set up the team as he did, rather than him being forced to do it due to a lack of suitable players for how we played under Poch / will play under Ange.

Most of the players currently at Ange's disposal were also available to Conte, yet the two managers are utilising those players very differently. Bissouma and Lo Celso look almost like new signings under Ange.

I completely agree with you in terms of our defence though, and I'd add that Lloris' decline / limitations with the ball at his feet didn't help Conte or Mourinho.
However, I would argue that a back four utilising Royal & Davies at fullback, with an extra body in CM to shield the defence and help us to retain possession, may have been a better way to get the most out of the players we had. If you lack decent CBs, why play a system that requires three of them? If you have a squad filled with CMs who are decent in a CM3 but lack the required skillset to play in a CM2, why play a system that has a CM2?

 

[Whitey]

Mate, I literally said in my post that I think kane is world class and we'll never replicate his all round game. Every Spurs fan knows Kane is an absolutely incredible player.

I'm just making the point that there's a chance he's not suited to Ange's style and won't be able to replicate 30 goals next season like many are assuming he will. He did it in an attacking Poch system 5 years ago so maybe he can do it again - I'm not saying he definitely won't. I'm just forming an opinion based on what I'm seeing in pre-season and how Kane fits our new manager's style.

Your post is an emotional rant accusing fans who don't directly agree with you as representing every single thing that makes angry about the club with little bearing on what people are actually posting.

Also if you think any fans actually genuinely care about the balance sheet you're barking up the wrong tree. All fans want us to spend big and build an amazing squad, but some of us accept that Levy's a tight bastard and he's not going to suddenly start spending extra just for the hell of it. Hence getting 90m-100 for Kane might actually not be the worst idea in the world if we want to strengthen the squad over the next few seasons once Kane does inevitably leave.

So...

• Every Spurs fan knows Kane is an absolutely incredible player or there's a chance he's not suited to Ange's style.....?????
• You're just forming an opinion based on what you're seeing in pre-season (Throw most of August in to that)..... Kane still produces, so not sure that a good counter....
• Also if you think any fans actually genuinely care about the balance sheet you're barking up the wrong tree..... Almost every post/rating that has disagreed mentions take the money, so what other conclusion should I come to.

Sorry Timber replying to you, not meant be personal and appreciate your rebuttals. I'll let you reply to this then I promise I'll for everyone's sanity.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Conte and Mourinho both seemed relatively content to rely on Kane's brilliance to provide our goals and creativity.

Conte blocked us from signing Eriksen on free transfer, so it's rather ironic that you've cited the lack of players like Eriksen as a reason for Conte setting up the team as he did.
Conte possibly put the brakes on us signing Maddison, who seemed the obvious alternative to Eriksen (that is speculation though, as Leicester may have been reluctant to negotiate).
Conte froze Lo Celso out of the squad, seemingly without giving him a chance. This was presumably because he was deemed not to fit Conte's system, rather than because we had better creative options in CM.
Conte also failed to utilise Bissouma, who isn't a million miles away from Dembele in terms of style of play and is shining in pre-season within a more offensive / positive system.
All of the above indicates that Conte wanted to set up the team as he did, rather than him being forced to do it due to a lack of suitable players for how we played under Poch / will play under Ange.

Most of the players currently at Ange's disposal were also available to Conte, yet the two managers are utilising those players very differently. Bissouma and Lo Celso look almost like new signings under Ange.

I completely agree with you in terms of our defence though, and I'd add that Lloris' decline / limitations with the ball at his feet didn't help Conte or Mourinho.
However, I would argue that a back four utilising Royal & Davies at fullback, with an extra body in CM to shield the defence and help us to retain possession, may have been a better way to get the most out of the players we had. If you lack decent CBs, why play a system that requires three of them? If you have a squad filled with CMs who are decent in a CM3 but lack the required skillset to play in a CM2, why play a system that has a CM2?

We know the ideologies of Ange v Conte/Jose are poles apart

Let’s see how results compare

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Not entirely huge news but Falk saying that Bayern directors want breakthrough tomorrow and have set an internal deadline. Title is a bit clickbaity saying Kane could have played his last game for Spurs (lol)

Got to be honest, this is good news. I 100% don’t want him to go and it’s going to suck if/when he does. I’m also not particularly confident we will fully reinvest the money. But this “will he, won’t he” situation can’t go on any longer. We need a deadline. The sooner we have a clear idea of what we are working with next season the better imo.

 

[mil1lion]

It should be us who set a deadline. If Bayern can't a agree a fee the clock has to tick with a fee attached. PSG about the only other option but if he's not sold before the season starts then he must stay.

 

[Scot-Spur]

I personally think a fee gets agreed tomorrow, probably 100 million euros plus add ons or something.
We need to get it sorted and crack on with our window.

 

[Styopa]

Every story recently is what Bayern want going into this meeting, wonder what they’ll actually put down

Surely by now all parties must be aware more or less of what it is going to take. I can understand being even fifteen or twenty million apart but if it’s much more than that we need to draw a line under it. Especially if other business hinges on the outcome of this deal. I also think accepting say ten million less now with a month to go of the transfer window is probably better than ten million more a few days before the window closes.

 

[Timberwolf]

So...

• Every Spurs fan knows Kane is an absolutely incredible player or there's a chance he's not suited to Ange's style.....?????
• You're just forming an opinion based on what you're seeing in pre-season (Throw most of August in to that)..... Kane still produces, so not sure that a good counter....
• Also if you think any fans actually genuinely care about the balance sheet you're barking up the wrong tree..... Almost every post/rating that has disagreed mentions take the money, so what other conclusion should I come to.

Sorry Timber replying to you, not meant be personal and appreciate your rebuttals. I'll let you reply to this then I promise I'll for everyone's sanity.

To answer those points:

1) There are countless of examples of extremely talented players not suiting certain systems or styles of play. Lukaku went from destroying Serie A to being a complete donkey in a system that didn't suit him at Chelsea. Zlatan got sold by Pep after one season. Right now you only have to look at players like Bissouma and Lo Celso flourishing in an attacking team when they both looked underwhelming in more defensive systems. Kane is a world class player but if we're pushing high up the pitch and playing him on the shoulder we're not making the most of his passing ability, his hold up play and he's not got the pace to get on the end of through balls or scare opposition defenders to sit deep and stretch the play.

2) I'm basing it on pre-season but also based on how Ange has set up his teams historically. You're right that Kane will still produce - there's no way he won't score plenty of goals as he's an incredible finisher - but if we're not going to play to his strengths and there's a £90-100m offer on the table from Bayern I think there's a strong argument for taking it given he'll be off on a free next summer and potentially to a PL rival like United.

Like if Richarlison IS suited to the new system and Kane isn't, even though Kane is the far superior footballer, the difference between them won't be anywhere near as big as it would've been under previous managers like Conte and Jose who played counter attacking styles and were deeply reliant on Kane playing a hybrid 9/10 role at which he's unbelievably good. With Maddison and/or Lo Celso in the 10 position Kane won't be able to do that half as much.

3) Not sure if that's why they're disagreeing? Would need to see the posts. Generally I think all fans want us to spend big provided we're not literally putting the future of the club in jeopardy. I'd bloody love us to drop 50-60m on Tapsoba right now, but knowing Levy, we might need to sell Kane for him to sanction it, sadly.

But anyway, didn't mean to rile you up and we both ultimately want what's best for the club. If Ange wants to keep Kane then I'm 100% for it!