Harry Kane

[mark87]

Really hope all this sitting at home in his pants watching Bargain Hunt is worth it for him.

 

[Blackcanary]

Really hope all this sitting at home in his pants watching Bargain Hunt is worth it for him.

Let's be honest, given how chunky he was looking last season, he can't really afford too many days off training. He should be keeping extra weight off those delicate cous cous ankles...

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We saw his main motivation on AoN - he wants to be heralded with Messi and Cristiano.

He probably doesn't care about being the greatest goalscorer for Tottenham, but the greatest for England and in the Premier League.


Players who win or are nominated for the Ballon D'or etc are, quite often not the best players, but the best players at the best clubs. He wants the X-Factor, and I don't even think it's about pay or trophies - I think he wants to be on a pedestal, and he'll likely think that he'll get that at City.

Maybe he thinks he can score even more there and break some sort of Messi-type scoring record.

Yep this is his absolute motivation and he won't have a chance of Ballon D'or etc playing in the Europa Conference League.
He didn't even win domestic player of the season last year when he was absolute the best player in the league by a mile.

This isn't about money at all its all about him winning trophies and being regarded like Messi/Cristiano which he could be at City but the way he's gone about it all is so poor.

 

[freeeki]

I've got the weirdest feeling that he's gonna end up at Man United...

I think they’ve spent too much already this window.

The only way that could happen would be in a cash + players (plural) deal, and in reality there aren’t many players we’d want who they’d let also let go. Only Martial springs to mind.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

How has he not damaged the Club?

He's damaging the Club's reputation. Are you telling me there's no chance someone like Romero might not look at this situation and be like, "oh, let's reconsider"? Maybe not Romero, but some target might.

At least 5 rival club fans have come up to me all smug laughing about the Kane situation. Is that not damaging?

And financially. Let's say our valuation is 160m. City offer 140m. Kane strikes and continues to. Instead of holding firm, his valuation drops so we can get this over with. Is that not damaging?

He's an utter ****. He hasn't had the balls to put in a transfer request! Why not? Why hasn't he done things officially and through the right channels? If he wants to leave, so be it. But going on strike when he hasn't exhausted all "normal" measures or before City have had a reasonable bid rejected, puts him in Sol Campbell territory IMO.

I said this

I disagree when you say Harry hasn't damaged the club,

You do understand what I said there, right? That I DO NOT agree when the poster I replied to said Harry Kane has not damaged the club. Basically, I said he HAS damaged the club.
So, not only were you wrong in the very first line, you doubled down a few more times too

Here, cut and paste this in your reply: Dear A&C, i'm a silly **** and i'm sorry

 

[George94]

Because you run the risk of keeping a player who becomes extremely disgruntled and worth a lot less than he is now, plus you end up paying his salary.

This is exactly what Kane thinks he's going to achieve by refusing to turn up for training - and he couldn't be more wrong for thinking so.

You think Levy is going to send out the message to the rest of our players "you want to leave? with 3 years on your contract? just don't bother turning up for training. Yeah, don't worry - we'll sort you a transfer, on the cheap"

Not a chance.

 

[HobbitSpur]

The problem with the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ if it exists is that his Cockwomble of an agent has already blurted off that a deal for 160m has been agreed and shot himself in the foot.

HK. So I can go for 100m yes Dan?

DL. Whoa, hold on there sweet cheeks, your agent has already told me and everyone else that an agreement is in place at a value of 160m

HK. But Dan, you said I could go as long as the price was over 100m.

DL. And when I went to school 160m is over 100m.

HK. You’ll have to excuse my brother Dan. He really is a moronic cretin of a human being, and really does not have a clue what he is doing.

DL. That may be true me ol’ China, but you have employed that moronic cretin as your agent. So I would suggest you get your track suit on, get on your knees and apologise to Nuno for being a self-centred premadonna, and get your head down till your agents valuation is met.

 

[mark87]

Let's be honest, given how chunky he was looking last season, he can't really afford too many days off training. He should be keeping extra weight off those delicate cous cous ankles...

Fuck me if he is considered 'chunky'...

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Bah, that's not right at all.

Lets get this right. Levy has masterminded a fall of epic proportions. That's one thing. Kane is acting the ****. that's another. These are separate yet very much linked. How Kane is acting is very much down to him. Why the situation has even occurred in the first place is down to Levy. Two separate things. So if sticking the boot into Kane for how he's acting is your thing, that's fine. If rewinding and saying Levy is the architect, surely that's also fine. Doing that isn't ignoring what Kane is doing.

I honestly believe that Kane, a player who has never once rocked the boat and has, up until now shown nothing but the greatest respect and loyalty to the club is acting so against type that there's more to it than being badly advised by his yokel brother. There's something else, fuck knows what but I honestly think there's a lot more to this than we know. There usually is.

Personally I think the progress/ambition/eye off the ball thing, a combination of it all is a large part of it, so yeah, i'll have a pop at Willow about that if that's OK with you all

Talk about being dramatic.....masterminded a fall of epic proportions ???.
We built a successful team, he was part of that process, we then didn't regenerate it, he was part of that process. I'm struggling to think of many teams that have managed that process well. He should definitely have insisted Poch had a DOF because as we can see at the moment a structure is essential for any club. Poch and Levy are equally guilty for our dip.
We seem to be back on a better trajectory now, purchasing better players.
Also, the machievellian theory that he told the Kane's £100m if no CL to shift the narrative away from the club. Well that's a massive stretch and one you probably come to if you hate Levy but even if there's any chance of any truth to it the Kane's should have seen it coming. More fool them.

 

[stormfly]

We saw his main motivation on AoN - he wants to be heralded with Messi and Cristiano.

He probably doesn't care about being the greatest goalscorer for Tottenham, but the greatest for England and in the Premier League.


Players who win or are nominated for the Ballon D'or etc are, quite often not the best players, but the best players at the best clubs. He wants the X-Factor, and I don't even think it's about pay or trophies - I think he wants to be on a pedestal, and he'll likely think that he'll get that at City.

Maybe he thinks he can score even more there and break some sort of Messi-type scoring record.

Pfft Messi and Ronaldo are good and all but they are not the top all time goal scorers for Tottenham Hotspur so they’ll never reach greatness in my eyes.

 

[SDogg]

My cat is called Kane, ffs

My son is called Kane .. ffs

 

[Reado]

How easy he's made it to dislike him after the last 5 years or brilliance. So disappointing. Can come to terms with him leaving, but not this way.

 

[HW61]

Whilst on face of it there appears to be disagreement of who’s most at fault for this. 2 things really are clear and linked:

1. Kane has said for the past 3 years he’ll stay as long as we match his ambition. We clearly have gone massively backwards. Kane is acting like an arse disrespecting everyone at the club who has contributed to his success. He deserves no respect in return for what he now represents in football and to us fans. He clearly doesn’t give a shit.

2. Failure on ambition is entirely Levy and the owners.

Without 2 we probably wouldn’t have 1.

 

[Serpico]

puts him in Sol Campbell territory

Has it really come to this?

Lets hope its not a Danny Rose ending. Kane will not win this-the club and football can't allow him to.

 

[Timberwolf]

It feels like everything Kane is doing at the moment is ticking off the list of "what players should do to get a move". Problem is his brother is an idiot and they're getting the strategy all wrong.

- If you're going to do an interview with Neville, release it at the right time, not when you're still in a CL race and without any real message other than vague undertones of discontent.

- If you're going to leak a huge story to the Sun don't have it done by a showbiz journo with zero link to football at a stage when negotiations have barely started (if at all).

- If you're going to go on strike, make damn sure the buying club actually has some intention of paying close to your value, and don't just burn all goodwill with your existing fans who have loved and backed you for your whole career when a move away isn't guaranteed.

From a purely strategic view it's just...stupid. At shitty as it was, at least Bale went on strike when negotiations were well under way and it actually made sense.

City haven't even made a serious bid yet and Kane's already played all his cards and burned his bridges. Fact of the matter is, Kane can do whatever he wants but unless City pay what he's worth Levy will not bend and he'll have to stay.

Why piss on all the years of love from the fans of the club that nurtured you and paid you absurdly high wages, when your actions will, at the very best, cut a few million off the transfer fee but in reality, probably won't change a thing? At least wait until City are deep in negotiations and a deal genuinely looks like happening before you start acting like a spoilt brat.

So dumb.

 

[dimiSpur]

I said this

You do understand what I said there, right? That I DO NOT agree when the poster I replied to said Harry Kane has not damaged the club. Basically, I said he HAS damaged the club.
So, not only were you wrong in the very first line, you doubled down a few more times too

Here, cut and paste this in your reply: Dear A&C, i'm a silly **** and i'm sorry

Dear A&C, i'm a silly **** and i'm sorry

 

[bat-chain]

This whole saga does shine a unique light onto Kane's mental state in my opinion as well. He is in a strange way giving up.

He's painting it as outgrowing the club but I wonder if deep down he knows he is getting other people and financial doping to take him where he wants to go.

 

[Vulcan10]

I'm of the mindset that we should make his life more difficult. Not cave in.

I'd be surprised if his brand is not taking a battering.

I do hope so. Pandemic, people struggling and the England Captain is on strike because he wants to earn £400k p/w rather than £300k. Not a good look.

 

[Scott Spur]

Maybe we were blind to how Harry Kane FC he was all along. There's a reason every single other fanbase can't stand him (and that's not just because he scored against them). Harry Claim etc. Maybe we forgave him all that because he's been truly an amazing player for us, and we just assumed he loved the club that he's been with forever and wanted to literally Greaves himself into our history.

Maybe if we look back on his time with us without the Spurs tints, we might see some stuff we were deliberately blind to.

If he's not fit for a game for City, he doesn't get to walk into the team. If he has an off game or doesn't score for an entire month, their fans will demand blood. We're like "it's Harry, of course he'll be OK".

The "Gentleman's Agreement" stuff is also a load of bollocks. You can say there was one, even when there wasn't - no-one can prove it. The same for Bale and Modric.

Also, I expect the agreement was, if there's a decent fee we'll let you go. There's not even been a bid yet has there?

He'd never square it in the box for an easy tap in......scumbag

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Talk about being dramatic.....masterminded a fall of epic proportions ???.

I like to inject some drama into proceedings. It fits nicely in with the codswallop. Others are content with less but the merry go round has to keep turning