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swarvsta

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The Sky obsession knows no bounds. Fucking hell, really?


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SpartanSpur

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There has always been long held suspicions about the relationship between Sky Sports and Sky Bet. There were definite relations for a long time, as they sat under the same company group.

In recent years they have distanced the links in ownership.

However, for Sky Bet to come out and actually admit they were funding the Neville documentary is quite damning. The fact that this was the same documentary that then facilitated a ‘breaking news’ programme on Kane at 7pm on Sky shows the link between Neville, Sky Sports, Overlap and Sky Bet.

The truth is that punters need to realise the manipulation that is going on with these kind of markets.

Since Saturday we have had Nuno, Poch and now Martinez strong favourites for the Spurs job!

I think it just says more about how much people like betting on these markets whenever some news breaks. Anyone that keeps an eye on the new manager thread can see that. I doubt it takes much money to swing these markets. No one forces people to make a bet.
 

sundanceyid10

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If you hold on just because you dont trust yourself to improve then you will always fall back.
We fall back anyway we have been for the last few years, before Poch we are average for ages. Added to the fact we have an extremely poor record with expensive signings.
 

sundanceyid10

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Levy does have a good track record selling players, that was what my post is about.

We didn't do well enough with fab 7 but thats not a reason to not sell Kane.
We haven’t done well since then either, N’Dombele pretty average, likewise Lo Celso, Sanchez error prone, Sissoko utter dogshit. It’s a long and embarrassing list so excuse me if I don’t get to excited about any Harry Kane money.
 

ultimateloner

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We haven’t done well since then either, N’Dombele pretty average, likewise Lo Celso, Sanchez error prone, Sissoko utter dogshit. It’s a long and embarrassing list so excuse me if I don’t get to excited about any Harry Kane money.

I agree the lot that you listed haven't been good enough. The only difference for me is Sissoko; i think he filled a functional role and we got what we paid for. So yes, your pessimism makes sense. I would even add that since we failed to sort the midfield out with the the money spent on GLC and NDom, this is now going to drag us back from addressing other areas such as the aging backline. So buying badly has knock-on effects down the line.

But even with that, I still disagree that's a good enough reason to not sell.

We are 7th with 2 of the most productive PL players. What makes you think that Kane will still perform to this level if we kept him against his will? Also if we dont improve, we are going to slip. So whether we keep or sell Kane, we are still unlikely to get CL and we still need a squad rebuild.
 

philip

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If Kane wins the Euros with England, do you think he might be happier to stay? Euro winning captain is pretty decent!
 

beats1

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The surprising thing from that interview is that he says he would rather win a World Cup than the PL

I hope for our sake Southgate gets sacked
 

Matrix

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The surprising thing from that interview is that he says he would rather win a World Cup than the PL

I hope for our sake Southgate gets sacked

Shame he cant get a transfer to the German team to match his ambition...:whistle:
 

Dov67

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The surprising thing from that interview is that he says he would rather win a World Cup than the PL

I hope for our sake Southgate gets sacked

That is surprising though from a players perspective being a World Cup winning captain does give you some sort of immortality - ask Hugo

as a Spurs fan, i would personally rather THFC get an extra corner in a friendly than England win the World Cup. - my only interest in international football is whether our players get injured or not. Goes back to the Darren Anderson days where it appeared he’d play for England and then miss 3 months for us, or longer
 

Serpico

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That is surprising though from a players perspective being a World Cup winning captain does give you some sort of immortality - ask Hugo

as a Spurs fan, i would personally rather THFC get an extra corner in a friendly than England win the World Cup. - my only interest in international football is whether our players get injured or not. Goes back to the Darren Anderson days where it appeared he’d play for England and then miss 3 months for us, or longer
A question... how can you not want England to win? I want my country (not telling) to win every tournament, every game even the Eurovision song contest. If Kane was up against my team I would want him to be crap.

I want both THFC to win the PL and my team to win the World Cup?
 

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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There has always been long held suspicions about the relationship between Sky Sports and Sky Bet. There were definite relations for a long time, as they sat under the same company group.

In recent years they have distanced the links in ownership.

However, for Sky Bet to come out and actually admit they were funding the Neville documentary is quite damning. The fact that this was the same documentary that then facilitated a ‘breaking news’ programme on Kane at 7pm on Sky shows the link between Neville, Sky Sports, Overlap and Sky Bet.

The truth is that punters need to realise the manipulation that is going on with these kind of markets.

Since Saturday we have had Nuno, Poch and now Martinez strong favourites for the Spurs job!
I'm guessing this is why the pundits said what they said on Sunday. Neville saying "kane hasn't said he wants to leave, I don't know which part of the interview people were watching" etc etc.

It stinks and Neville is such a fucking hypocrite, the self appointed saviour of football condemning the ESL and ffp regulations. Seems happy to profit from the game in any way he can, morals out the window.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I'm guessing this is why the pundits said what they said on Sunday. Neville saying "kane hasn't said he wants to leave, I don't know which part of the interview people were watching" etc etc.

It stinks and Neville is such a fucking hypocrite, the self appointed saviour of football condemning the ESL and ffp regulations.
Oh the backtracking is almost definitely linked to the skybet situation, and Harry himself might inadvertently have invited a slap on the wrist if it’s deemed he was complicit in manipulating a betting market.
 

Dov67

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A question... how can you not want England to win? I want my country (not telling) to win every tournament, every game even the Eurovision song contest. If Kane was up against my team I would want him to be crap.

I want both THFC to win the PL and my team to win the World Cup?

I didn't say I don't want England to win. I said in comparison to how much I am emotionally invested I am in Spurs, I simply don't care.

Often, but not always, the interests of club and international football are in conflict. Its not good for THFC to have our players flying off for utterly pointless friendlies at crucial times of the season, and in terms of burnout, it would be good for the likes for Kane who plays every game to have a summer off to refresh and fix those niggles that players get.

The analogy I often use, is that of a neighbour who has the right to borrow your Ferrari any time he damn well pleases, thrashes the shit out of it, takes it drag car racing and hands it back to you smashed up. It goes in for repairs for weeks and months, you pay of course and then the neighbour shows up again demanding the keys! Any imperfect analogy, but you get the point.
 

eViL

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A question... how can you not want England to win? I want my country (not telling) to win every tournament, every game even the Eurovision song contest. If Kane was up against my team I would want him to be crap.

I want both THFC to win the PL and my team to win the World Cup?

Because with England it's over the top. The press ruin it. The pointless friendlies and league tournaments ruin it. The FA ruin it.

It's just massively sterile nowadays.
 

olliec

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If Kane’s heart is not at Tottenham anymore than we need to do all we can to get rid of him. We need that money to rebuild a team that can compete. If Kane’s stays we won’t have the funds to build so it will be more of the same old next season no matter which manager comes in.
 

Dov67

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if he goes this summer I have no doubt it will play out like all of our other reluctant transfers of previous years.

A circus and a distraction for the entire summer, a last minute deal, that gives us zero time to replace and restructure the team. We would have got an extra £10-£20 million, but next season will be another write off.

seen this movie before, we all have.
 

Gbspurs

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Jan 27, 2011
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if he goes this summer I have no doubt it will play out like all of our other reluctant transfers of previous years.

A circus and a distraction for the entire summer, a last minute deal, that gives us zero time to replace and restructure the team. We would have got an extra £10-£20 million, but next season will be another write off.

seen this movie before, we all have.

Dortmund have shown how to handle this. Set a figure in agreement with the player, make the figure public and give a deadline, stick to the deadline when it passes.

Kane wouldn't revolt if no-one came in much like Sancho didn't.
 
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