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jurgen

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The comparisons to Bale are a tad unfair, but I'd also argue that Kane has good time to grow and adapt his game which Bale most certainly did...

Perhaps Bale did show a lot more natural talent at a younger age - but there was also a point in time where he was significantly less 'snakelike' in his body movements. He was always mega dangerous at full pelt but in the last couple of seasons he seemed to become more sinous..able to score more types of goals and beat players in different ways. Kane likewise is looking far less wooden now and surely he can continue in that vein. Bale also grew into being a bit of an aerial monster which he certainly wasn't at the start.

Also, Bale used to do Beckham style looper free kicks, but by the end he was doing the old Cristiano/Drogba rocket style ones with much success - Harry can strike a ball very well already, but he can also learn and adapt his game like others have done.

Bale had great physical tools to work with (as his shorts proved.. ooer) but you could see his development as a player also came from working really hard to build new strengths into his game. Kane's game is looking really really strong at the moment, and if he is able to keep innovating and working on his explosiveness and his FKs for instance.. he could be a crazy player..
 

Locotoro

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I genuinely prefer Kane and would rather keep him than have Bale - even a straight swap

Obviously Bale is the established and clearly better player but Kane has brought something back to the club I thought I only felt because I was a kid

That connection you as a fan have to a player

Look what he does when he scores - he goes mad, he loves it. He seems like he loves the club and the fans

When Bale used to score he would think about his branding and do his little heart celebration, all the while preparing himself for life in Spain and a move away from the club (during his last, most successful season anyway)

I obviously really rated Bale and he was on a different planet in terms of ability that season - one of if not the best player I've seen in a Spurs shirt in my life (going back to the days of Waddle and Gazza) for that one season

But watching Kane reminds me of supporting Spurs as a kid, when football and Spurs meant everything to me and when the players were my heros

I really hope Kane continues to progress and becomes a Spurs legend, even if he doesn't nothing can erase this season (well unless he goes full Sol Campbell and moves to Arsenal on a free I suppose)

Kane, to me anyway, represents what football used to be, what it should be and what the modern game has lost and I am delighted we have him
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kaz Hirai

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This Kane vs Bale debate is void.

Bale has proven himself over of numerous seasons and is quite rightly regarded as one of the best players in the world. Kane has proven himself over 6 months. He could be one of the best players in the world one day but until he has proven himself over a few seasons I don't think comparisons are fair. He is going to be a closely marked man next season and if he manages to still score consistently then we are onto a winner. But i'm sure I don't have to remind many people on here about the amount of strikers that have had one good season in the prem before fading into mediocrity. Lets hope Kane isn't one of them.


next season is a big one for him personally, he'll need to come back and perform to a similar high level. And show improvement in areas to his game as defenders will man mark him and teams will attempt to nullify him. Can lead to risk of becoming a one season wonder like many others.

On another note it's a shame about Ade, how beneficial would it be to have a sharp, motivated Adebayor for the final run in. What a waste of ultra talent
 

lenny7

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Does anyone else think there's probably no point in doing a player of the season this year? I mean, save for the lad signing a pre-contract agreement with the scum or something equally hideous like genocide or whatnot, he's got to be nailed on.
 

IGSpur

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Sorry if im wading in and or misunderstood the point but I do regard Messi as being a powerful player, his centre of gravity and ability to protect the ball is part of what makes him the player he is. I also think Zidane and Scholes were also known for their strength, well thats certainly how I saw them. Maradona was another powerful player as was Gazza.

I guess it could be interpreted in different ways. I consider strenght and power as different. Ronaldo, Bale, Yay Toure, Sissoko, Micah Richards I consider powerful players, like powerful runners. They would power past you with speed and strenght and of course skill. In your sense I would also consider Modric powerful as he had strong legs and could hold off challenges, but I wouldn't compare him to 3 aforementioned. I consider Messi strong as opposed to powerful.
 

HildoSpur

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I can only assume why lots of people didn't rate him before this season is that for a long time people were far too obsessed with pace and general physical attributes. Kane has always been an intelligent footballer with a talent for goal scoring but for a long time he looked pretty slow and cumbersome. He has developed great strength and a yard of pace which most people didn't think he had and he is also superb at running with the ball. It is quite scary how good this lad could be if he continues to improve, he certainly has a top class attitude.
 

Kennington

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Has anybody noted the remarkable resemblance between the names of Harry Kane and Harry Hotspur?

If so I apologise unreservedly in advance and shall ban myself from this forum.

Until the next time I post more rubbish.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Does anyone else think there's probably no point in doing a player of the season this year? I mean, save for the lad signing a pre-contract agreement with the scum or something equally hideous like genocide or whatnot, he's got to be nailed on.

Should be Lloris tho. Like it should have been last year.

He's our best and most consistent player.
 

Spursidol

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next season is a big one for him personally, he'll need to come back and perform to a similar high level. And show improvement in areas to his game as defenders will man mark him and teams will attempt to nullify him. Can lead to risk of becoming a one season wonder like many others.

On another note it's a shame about Ade, how beneficial would it be to have a sharp, motivated Adebayor for the final run in. What a waste of ultra talent

Agreed he will be closely marked next season, so it will certainly be a test.

However the reason why IMO he will continue to score goals is that he scores from all sorts of positioin, with kleft foot,. right foot and head. He feeds off crosses and passes - but also makes goals for himself by dropping deep and running at the opposution.

So there's no one way that defenders can nullify his goal threat - it maybe that he scores less goals, but he will not be a 'one season wonder' if he keeps reasonably fit
 

spurs9

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Agreed he will be closely marked next season, so it will certainly be a test.

However the reason why IMO he will continue to score goals is that he scores from all sorts of positioin, with kleft foot,. right foot and head. He feeds off crosses and passes - but also makes goals for himself by dropping deep and running at the opposution.

So there's no one way that defenders can nullify his goal threat - it maybe that he scores less goals, but he will not be a 'one season wonder' if he keeps reasonably fit
If we improve our AM's, I don't think it will be an issue.
 

JerryGarcia

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Agreed he will be closely marked next season, so it will certainly be a test.

However the reason why IMO he will continue to score goals is that he scores from all sorts of positioin, with kleft foot,. right foot and head. He feeds off crosses and passes - but also makes goals for himself by dropping deep and running at the opposution.

So there's no one way that defenders can nullify his goal threat - it maybe that he scores less goals, but he will not be a 'one season wonder' if he keeps reasonably fit

Also it's not like teams haven't taken note of him already, he's been getting special attention since Christmas time. As someone else in here said, the other teams aren't waiting till next season to mark him tighter.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Should be Lloris tho. Like it should have been last year.

He's our best and most consistent player.

It should have been Lloris last year, I felt embarrassed for our fans a little when he didn't get it.

But this year, as good as Lloris has been, You can't begrudge Kane getting it. He's on course for a 30 goal haul in his debut full season, maybe more. More than any striker since Klinsmann. With doubles against Arse and Chelsea. You can't argue with that.
 

lenny7

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It should have been Lloris last year, I felt embarrassed for our fans a little when he didn't get it.

But this year, as good as Lloris has been, You can't begrudge Kane getting it. He's on course for a 30 goal haul in his debut full season, maybe more. More than any striker since Klinsmann. With doubles against Arse and Chelsea. You can't argue with that.
Plus 16 league goals already and he didn't get a Prem start until the 9th November.
 

Rout-Ledge

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Plus 16 league goals already and he didn't get a Prem start until the 9th November.

His status (in the media) has changed, in the space of less than a year, from an absolute no-name youth player who'd been on a few unrewarding loan spells to regarded as being in the same bracket as Aguero and Costa. Unreal.

POY without a doubt.
 

Gbspurs

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Agreed. Just saying that he's always looked like he had a decent 'footballing brain' in his head. He's certainly improved all aspects of his game though.

It's his intelligent movement and decision-making that gives me confidence that he'll be able to adapt as the opposition begin to become more familiar with his way of playing.

I have confidence that opposition won't figure him out because half the time he gives the impression that even he doesn't know what he is doing. Hard to play against.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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It should have been Lloris last year, I felt embarrassed for our fans a little when he didn't get it.

But this year, as good as Lloris has been, You can't begrudge Kane getting it. He's on course for a 30 goal haul in his debut full season, maybe more. More than any striker since Klinsmann. With doubles against Arse and Chelsea. You can't argue with that.

Yes. Last year was a sham. Eriksen only made a real impact in the second half of the season when Lloris was consistently good throughout.

I won't begrudge Kane winning it this year but I think its wrong that Lloris won't be recognized for being consistently world class throughout the season.
 

Shanks

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May 11, 2005
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Overheard a few arsenal fans in the office talking about last night, and Harry Kane popped up into the conversation, that he'll be 'found out' next season, and he'll be another england centre forward that won't deliver...

I'm not sure there is much to find out personally, he's a brutish centre forward... it's just a challenge stopping him, but the test will be when he goes a few games without a goal...
 

Riandor

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May 26, 2004
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Overheard a few arsenal fans in the office talking about last night, and Harry Kane popped up into the conversation, that he'll be 'found out' next season, and he'll be another england centre forward that won't deliver...

I'm not sure there is much to find out personally, he's a brutish centre forward... it's just a challenge stopping him, but the test will be when he goes a few games without a goal...
Well, to be fair to them, everyone says that about England players or future England players who play for team other than your own. To boot, most of the time, most players flatter to deceive when they pull on the England shirt too.

As for next season in the EPL, well, it is a genuine question. A lot of players have had great breakthrough seasons and then failed to have as much impact the following year(s), whether its genuinely due to being found out, or injuries or all sorts of reasons...

I love Harry Kane and i obviously hope he continues his development, but I am not getting carried away, lots of water to pass under the bridge first before we can say we have a genuine and consistent class striker.
 

Blake Griffin

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i don't really understand this idea that kane will only start being planned for and marked closely next season. do people think teams aren't preparing for him already?
 
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