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FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

13VanDerBale13

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So in that case why appoint him ? and next why sack him unless you have a VERY clear idea as to who the next incumbent is going to be ?
It's a very strange situation and I have no issue in stating that I feel for him trying to do a job that a seeming majority aren't willing to give him the chance to do. For the record I would not have appointed him but he is the current manager of Tottenham Hotspur football club and I will not stop hoping that he finds solutions and wins people over.
Because our board are totally incompetent, who went against their own word by appointing another defensive minded coach.

Do i trust our board to make the right appointment ? No, but clearly Nuno's style of play is not sustainable as Jose found out, he can try all he likes, but it's just prolonging the inevitable sacking. (Hence the 2 year contract)

All we can do is hope for the best, but on the evidence on show, whilst results & style of play continue to go against us, he doesn't deserve patience.
 

Goobers

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Because our board are totally incompetent, who went against their own word by appointing another defensive minded coach.

Do i trust our board to make the right appointment ? No, but clearly Nuno's style of play is not sustainable as Jose found out, he can try all he likes, but it's just prolonging the inevitable sacking. (Hence the 2 year contract)

All we can do is hope for the best, but on the evidence on show, whilst results & style of play continue to go against us, he doesn't deserve patience.
Ok fair enough but what next in that case ?
 

13VanDerBale13

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Ok fair enough but what next in that case ?

Anyone who's capable of getting us to play better football & having more shots on target, instead of being near the bottom for these kind of stats tables.

Not even joking when i say Ryan Mason would get more out of the players (as shown at the end of last season)

If were going to be shit, at least be attacking whilst being shit :cry:
 

Goobers

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Anyone who's capable of getting us to play better football & having more shots on target, instead of being near the bottom for these kind of stats tables.

Not even joking when i say Ryan Mason would get more out of the players (as shown at the end of last season)

If were going to be shit, at least be attacking whilst being shit :cry:

I really do think that Ryan has a future in management and coaching but do I want him as the Spurs boss now ? No absolutely not.
 

mr ashley

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Just move on and get us a fresh, young manager to get behind. Seems so silly now to keep on with this as literally everyone knows this is now just a matter of when not if, and it’s all going to end without even anything remotely positive happening. If you can’t find an actual coach that fits a more long-term plan right away due to current obligations, bring on someone, anyone, who can at least bring some excitement. My choice is Ric Flair as the interim manager.
Woo!
 

kaz Hirai

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The poor guy hasn't got a chance has he ? It seems as though everyone has already made their mind up.

Think many would be alot more patient with him if he was poached from a team that played beautiful/exciting football under him, or at least won some big things


If we had to sign a 2 year caretaker until Levy's favourite became available I wish he did actually sign a caretaker that at least had that attacking DNA mentality he waffled on about
 

Goobers

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Think many would be alot more patient with him if he was poached from a team that played beautiful/exciting football under him, or at least won some big things


If we had to sign a 2 year caretaker until Levy's favourite became available I wish he did actually sign a caretaker that at least had that attacking DNA mentality he waffled on about
OK. I understand the point.
 

Spurzinho

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I actually think Levy would get a lot more credit if he just fronted up, sacked Nuno, came clean and admitted that the managerial search was completely ballsed up and that lessons had genuinely been learned, that he meant what he said when he promised to deliver on our DNA and the club was going to go out and bring in a young, exciting coach who would rebuild the club in the way we all want. If he admitted he'd screwed up and was prepared to listen and learn I think the likes of Potter and ETH would be willing to listen. The problem at the moment is that there is zero sign that Levy even understands that he's f**ked up (again) let alone in which particular way he's f**cked up. He is in the enviable position, as owner, of not having any oversight or accountability. He can f*ck up and f*ck up and continue f**king up because there are no consequences. If someone on his payroll was as awful at their job as he is at his then he wouldn't hesitate in firing them out of the nearest cannon. For someone reason under this perverse system the people who own the sh*t don't feel the slightest shame or concern that they are totally beyond scrutiny.

tl:dr = Front up Levy, or f**k off.
 

YB123

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Think many would be alot more patient with him if he was poached from a team that played beautiful/exciting football under him, or at least won some big things


If we had to sign a 2 year caretaker until Levy's favourite became available I wish he did actually sign a caretaker that at least had that attacking DNA mentality he waffled on about

For instance if it was Fonseca and we were playing amazing attacking football but say losing games like Chelsea and Gooners 3-2, 4-3 like you said we'd have more patience.

But we are literally just counting down the weeks/months until he is sacked now.

The football is tedious and pragmatic but that is what we saw from Wolves for years. No point having a manager who isnt a natural attack based manager being something he is not. I kind of feel for him and completely understand why he took the job but its public knowledge he was down the line. Doomed from the start.

The fact he will stay for a lot longer unless we lose about 6 on the bounce, purely to save face of Paratici and Levy is absolutely disgraceful.
 
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yiddo

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I completely get the negativity and I too have very very little faith in Nuno being able to take us forward.

However to cut him loose there must be an attainable candidate that will actually get this squad playing. Remember the majority of these players have failed Poch, Jose & seemingly Nuno now. Its clearly a difficult job that requires a specific skillset.

I have less faith in Levy & Paratici being able to secure the right candidate in the middle of a season than I do in Nuno being able to keep us in the top 7-8.

People suggesting getting ETH, Potter, Conte...etc. really??? you need to wake up if you really think any of these are realistic options for us right now.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I actually think Levy would get a lot more credit if he just fronted up, sacked Nuno, came clean and admitted that the managerial search was completely ballsed up and that lessons had genuinely been learned, that he meant what he said when he promised to deliver on our DNA and the club was going to go out and bring in a young, exciting coach who would rebuild the club in the way we all want. If he admitted he'd screwed up and was prepared to listen and learn I think the likes of Potter and ETH would be willing to listen.
Anyone believing absolutely anything Levy says is a raging candidate for Catfish.
 

mmidgers

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I actually think Levy would get a lot more credit if he just fronted up, sacked Nuno, came clean and admitted that the managerial search was completely ballsed up and that lessons had genuinely been learned, that he meant what he said when he promised to deliver on our DNA and the club was going to go out and bring in a young, exciting coach who would rebuild the club in the way we all want. If he admitted he'd screwed up and was prepared to listen and learn I think the likes of Potter and ETH would be willing to listen. The problem at the moment is that there is zero sign that Levy even understands that he's f**ked up (again) let alone in which particular way he's f**cked up. He is in the enviable position, as owner, of not having any oversight or accountability. He can f*ck up and f*ck up and continue f**king up because there are no consequences. If someone on his payroll was as awful at their job as he is at his then he wouldn't hesitate in firing them out of the nearest cannon. For someone reason under this perverse system the people who own the sh*t don't feel the slightest shame or concern that they are totally beyond scrutiny.

tl:dr = Front up Levy, or f**k off.
My choice would be for levy to just fuck off. He's full of shit
 

fishhhandaricecake

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For instance if it was Fonseca and we were playing amazing attacking football but say losing games like Chelsea and Gooners 3-2, 4-3 like you said we'd have more patience.

But we are literally just counting down the weeks/months until he is sacked now.

The football is tedious and pragmatic but that is what we saw from Wolves for years. No point having a manager who isnt a natural attack based manager being something he is not. I kind of feel for him and completely understand why he took the job but its public knowledge he was down the line. Doomed from the start.

The fact he will stay for a lot longer unless we lose about 6 on the bounce, purely to save face of Paratici and Levy is absolutely disgraceful.
Absolutely bang on
 

13VanDerBale13

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This is literally what we have, and despite the disproportionate vitriol on here every time we let a goal in, he’s doing a reasonable job.

Not a world beating job. Not an incredible job. Not a mind blowingly spectacular job.

But an adequate one, which has put us 6th in the league with a winnable run of games coming up.

Everyone on here would have taken that at the beginning of the season from a manager who is transparently only here for a year.

Every. Single. Person.

Standards. In. The. Mud.
 
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The fact that Levy and Paratici will keep him in a job just to save face infuriates me.

This season is another write-off.
It's in the middle of the season. Good available managers that we'd want are few and far between right now.

I'd rather them keep Nuno in the job and try and go after Gallardo when he becomes available in January than sack him and panic hire another donkey just because they fucked up the original hire.

I just don't Nuno gone, I want the right person to replace him.
 

rez9000

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If Levy thought the rebuild was painful and difficult in the summer wait until we've got the likes of Son, Dembele and Romero wanting out because they didn't come here to be arseing about in midtable. How many competitive matches have we played under Levy's ownership with a caretaker manager? Its got to be a record. Let's not let him off the hook for another season spent treading water while we work out which budget option we can bring in next.

Enough! Sack Nuno and bring in a coach of the calibre we were supposed to be targeting over the entire summer and couple of months before. Put your hand in your triple-padlocked pocket and pay whatever Ajax or Brighton or whoever wants and stop this nonsense. We've got one of the best stadium's in world football, we've got one of the best training grounds in the world and we're managed by Nuno Espirito f***ing Santo and suffering through his tribute to George bloody Graham.

I don't want Ryan Mason, I don't want Eddie Howe, I don't want any other currently out of work chancer. I want a manager with a plan to get us back into the Champions League, win a pot or two and get us playing decent football so that watching us isn't an alternative to Xanax.
Preach! ? ? ?
 

glacierSpurs

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This whole situation is being made worse by barcodes going to be title contenders, (if they are not relegated this season) another strong team to get past next season, and the possibility of United getting Conte soon, while the leaders in our club are fine cruising in mediocrity and earning millions.
 
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