What's new

Formation? (Lets take it back to the start)

WhiteStripe

Get out of my club you cretin!
Aug 23, 2006
14,213
4,989
Benny being injured has changed drastically our run in. We will likely be forced to play Bale at LB and with this in mind I therefore see it that we have a number of realistic options;

1) We play Lennon in front of Bale and VDV on the right.

Corluka Gallas Daws Bale
VDV Sandro Modric Lennon
Pav Crouch​

2) We play VDV in the middle, modric out left and Lennon out right.

Corluka Gallas Daws Bale
Lennon Sandro VDV Modric
Pav Crouch​

3) We play VDV off Crouch and Bring Hudd into the middle.

Corluka Gallas Daws Bale
Lennon Hudd Sandro Modric
VDV
Crouch​

Ok, there are tons of other permutations here, but they would involve bringing players in that have hardly played (such as Niko), or reverting to another strange formation (maybe 3-5-2). For me, we need to try and play in the way that suits us best, and for me this means playing with formation 3. Why? I'll tell you.

Best so far this season
We have played this formation for the majority of the season and up until January it looked an incredibly effective way to play. Ok we had Bale wide left and Benny behind him, and Modric playing in the middle, but you get my point. Tbh, until JD came back into any real reckoning and the lineup was disrupted, we looked pretty solid playing VDV off Crouch or some form of 4-4-1-1.

Escape to victory
Modric playing in a free role from the left will give him more freedom, space and time. He gets this in the middle, but playing on the left he will not be picked up in the same way he is in the middle, especially when he is allowed to drift inside. No LB will be able to mark him as they will be pulled out of position, and even if doubled up on, space will no doubt open up for Bale to exploit. I think Modric proved this position (with an attacking fullback) could be utilised effectively last year, so why not again now. Modric is also surprisingly effective at covering the space left by his attacking fullback pushing forward. Watch him last season playing the left hand sided role and his discipline at tucking inside was excellent.

Give roadrunner more road
Ok, so we've spoken about Luka, well now onto Gareth. Defensively, we all would proabably agree that Gareth has some way to go in regards to being a top full back. That said, he does have immense upper body strength, and is very quick, so without a post-mortem on Bales ability to play the defensive side of the LB role, I'll leave it at this. He has played there before, he will play there again, and we have no choice right now. In regards to part of Gareths game that has been lacking of late, his ability to pick the ball up and bomb past players, playing from a deeper position will no doubt help this out. Look at the goals scored v Inter. He picked the ball up in almost a defensive position and pushed into the space. With Modric's movement ahead of him, pulling players around, I would think Bale will see more space to run into. As long as we are tactically drilled to cover the holes (Sandro/Hudd/Modric can do this easily) then Bale from a deeper position can work with ruthless efficiancy.

Guard the back, release the front
Hudd & Sandro playing in the middle will give us the right blend of creativity, grit and dogged determination we will need to go away to places like Stamford Bridge and CoM. We have seriously lacked the Sweeper-type cover for our back four at times this season, being cut open in the middle like a knife through butter. Sandro, as we know gives us that bite that we have lacked since Sgt Wilson lost the consistency that guided us into the Champions League contention last year. I think a lot of our defeats/dropped points this year have come due to our oppenness in the middle of the park, and the combination of Sandro, who brings raw determination and a never say die approach to marshalling the middle of the park, and Tommy Huddlestone who brings that ability to see a pass, and spread the play or find a pressure relieveing outlet ball will prove a winning combination that will hopefully releive the pressure on our back four.

Tag-team telepathy
This brings me to the final key decision. Playing VDV off Peter Crouch. Well it's not rocket science is it? In my opinion, our most lucrative partnership this year, when you look at assists and goals scored has come from these two playing up top. At the beginning of the season they had forged an almost telepathic relationship with VDV feeding off Crouch and reaping the rewards. For me, Crouch looks stronger now than he did then, and VDV given the right set of instructions (ie just go out and do your thing) we could see these two set up/score a nice return of goals. I also think VDV, when playing away from home against a packed midfield, can come deeper and add that bit of grit we need to win that battle.

So there you have it, the situation is in no way ideal, but lets finish the season how we started. Solidity in the middle, Crouch feeding VDV and marauding runs down the left by Bale. The formation that will have the best chance of getting us 4th has to be...

Gomes
Corluka Gallas Dawson Bale
Lennon Hudd Sandro Modric
VDV
Crouch​
 

WhiteStripe

Get out of my club you cretin!
Aug 23, 2006
14,213
4,989
Why not Peinaar in front of Bale & Lennon on RW?

In which formation? If you mean the 3rd option, then I assume you mean taking Hudd out of the middle and putting Luka there. I think it's an interesting option as Peinaar would hopefully provide excellent cover for Bale when pushing forward. I also think Peinaar would be able to pick up straight away regardless of injury as that seems to be the type of player he is. I suppose really it's just my preference for having the creativity of Hudd on the park as I think his ability to find the outlet ball (ie Lennon or Crouch) is priceless.
 

thekneaf

Well-Known Member
Jan 18, 2011
1,935
3,878
Bale and Lennon should never play on the same side of the pitch. It makes us one dimensional and lopsided. I agree with the final formation.
 

BringBack_leGin

Well-Known Member
Jul 28, 2004
27,719
54,929
Nothing that involves Modric anywhere but the middle for me.

Gomes
Corluka Gallas Dawson Bassong
Lennon Sandro Modric Bale
VDV
Defrouchenko​

or​

Gomes
Corluka Gallas Dawson Bale
Lennon Sandro Modric Kranjcienaar
VDV
Defrouchenko​

or​

Gomes
Corluka Gallas Dawson Bale
VDV Sandro Modric Lennon
Defoe Pavlyouch

The middle one is my preference. While Modric was out (pre-him being moved central) Bale at left back with Kranjcar left wing was very tasty for quite a while.​
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

Well-Known Member
Jul 10, 2008
16,023
48,736
We should never ever play VDV centre midfield. He can't run, tackle nor does he have the discipline to stay in one position on the pitch.
 

felmani26

SC Supporter
Jan 1, 2008
24,624
43,611
Well for my two-penneth, I would say a no to option 1 as our left hand side would be a bit of a dogs dinner and the right hand side would just be Corluka with VdV roaming here, there and everywhere.

Option 2 is interesting but it places alot of emphasis on whether VdV would have the discipline to play in a central midfield two which I sincerely doubt and would leave Sandro very exposed.

Option 3 would be my pick but in saying that i'm not so sure where the goals will be coming from so it's still a slightly flawed system in that respect.

End of the day, it just goes to show how difficult it is to pick a formation that doesn't compromise our natural attacking instincts yet still manages to possess the defensive discipline that all top teams need to have. As well as our well documented dificiencies in the forward position, the one fundamental aspect we have been lacking in all season has been a balance in whatever system Harry has utilised and that has been a crucial factor in us (not likely) gaining 4th place again.
 

Bus-Conductor

SC Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
39,837
50,713
I don't want Huddelstone anywhere near our first team any more. This is the EPL 2011. Whatever quality he brings is severely compromised by his inability to think or move quickly. I will gladly sacrifice his couple of aesthetically pleasing massaged passes a game for a player who can think and move and offer more urgency, dynamism to better compliment the intelligence and creativity of players like Modric, Lennon, VDV, Bale etc.
He slows us down and makes a poorly coached side even more predictable. And the opposition run round him like he's not there, again exasperating coaching deficiencies.

And can we please start playing Kaboul, who is clearly better than Dawson, in at CB. Yes, Kaboul will possibly make the odd mistake as well but he will also be quicker, smarter and more comfortable on the ball than Dawson so I'll take him every time. And play our RB at RB until we can actually replace him for someone who can run.

And thirdly I don't want to see Defoe's one dimensional ineptitude any more. Play VDV where he fucking should be, and let him work off of Crouch who is the only striker we have with bollocks.

Until Ekotto recovers:

Gomes

Corluka Gallas Kaboul Bale
-------Sandro---Pienaar/Jenas
Lennon-----VDV------Modric
---------Crouch
 

WhiteStripe

Get out of my club you cretin!
Aug 23, 2006
14,213
4,989
Gomes
Corluka Gallas Dawson Bale
Sandro Hudd
Lennon VDV Modric
Pav​
:hump:

I would rather Crouch up top. None of our 3 strikers score, clearly, but having been an ardant Pav supporter, I think we need to look at who has worked best, and Crouch for me adds more than the others.

Other than that, yes, spot on and matches my option 3.
 

bubble07

Well-Known Member
Dec 27, 2004
23,199
30,385
I think its time we went back to basics and are hard to beat. We have 3 extremely tough away games coming up and its time we starting using pienaar again

Gomes
Corluka Gallas Dawson Bale
Lennon Sandro Modric Pienaar
Van Der Vaart
Crouch

This is a very solid team. Pienaar was Evertons stand out player when playing left mid and him and Baines were excellent down Evertons left. Corluka and Lennon have an understanding down the right and VDV links up well with Crouch

Anyone see major problems with this? I certainly don't
 

chrissivad

Staff
May 20, 2005
51,646
58,072
Which is why he plays there for the 2nd best NT in the world. :roll:

and done for some of the top clubs in the world.

as for the formation, I probably wouldn't change from the 442 or 4411 formation that we have been playing.

But i would love to see this:
Gomes
Kaboul Gallas Dawson Bale
Sandro Modric Hudd
VDV.......Pav....Lennon​
 

BringBack_leGin

Well-Known Member
Jul 28, 2004
27,719
54,929
I hope I'm wrong about thee Hudd-Sandro combo in a 4231, but I just see it leaving our midfield and strikers way too far apart. Then there's the fact that Modric will be moved out left where I just don't think he's effective. If Bale is to be moved to left back, I'd rather see Kranjcar or Pienaar moved onto the left with Modric, Lennon and VDV kept (/ returned to) their rightful positions.

I hope I'm wrong as I imagine that the Hundro combo is what we'll see at Chelski.
 
Top