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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

the yid

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There was a lot wrong and it's been that way for a while, we all see that. My concern now is what we do about it. I have backed Conte completely but he's a lame duck now we have no trophies to play for and isn't going to be here next season. I'll scream it until the day I die in defence of him that we shouldn't have appointed a manager like him if we were only going to half back him. Yes it's a lot of money and yes he should have done better, but he's all or nothing, and as a club that should have been known and taken into consideration prior to his appointment.
Complete agreement with you. Part of me wants Conte to stay and be properly backed but it's just never gonna happen move him on now atleast we might enjoy the rest of the season. I said under Jose that we will never show the ambition needed as a club and won't win anything so as fans all we have is enjoying the football.
 

Jamturk

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Indeed, it wasn't a lack of effort that let us down last night, in the same way it wasn't that Conte didn't care. They tried and fell short simple as that. For me the loss can be attributed to the players not being good enough or not being coached well enough or what ever else, but it certainly wasn't down to them being lazy or not caring/trying.

I think you're right it was always going to be difficult to break Milan down however for £15m a year and a reputation for being an elite coach I expect more in the way of finding an alternative way.
 

Trix

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Complete agreement with you. Part of me wants Conte to stay and be properly backed but it's just never gonna happen move him on now atleast we might enjoy the rest of the season. I said under Jose that we will never show the ambition needed as a club and won't win anything so as fans all we have is enjoying the football.
It needs to be done now, as in today. There is still a way to salvage this season an make it feel like a win but it won't be with Conte in charge. There are 3 managers that are currently out of work that would give us a bounce right now imo, so there are no excuses that no one is available. Sound them out this morning make a decision and get things moving so they have the rest of the season to assess and get to know the players before pre season.
 

Harrier

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The club needs to act immediately rather than flounder on under Conte.

If the parties involved want to save face part company today citing health reasons, let Mason take over for a couple of week before appointing the successor during the international break.
 
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DannyNZ

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I don’t think it was a lack of effort: it was they had no idea what to do offensively.
Maybe not lack of effort but a total lack of urgency. The cameo from Porro and the display by Skipp stood out as playing with urgency, a bit of pace and yes energy. If we’d seen the tea play with this ethos it might have been different.
 

Gassin's finest

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Don't make out you've been sitting here knowing all along it'll go tits up mate, you got sucked right in like the rest of us :ROFLMAO:
Spurs fandom is essentially schizophrenia, so I'm not hiding :D

Edit: TBF, I've been as expectant of this as I was of Jose, but I've never actively been unsupportive of them while they're here, and have always applauded them when they deserve it. If he sees out his contract then I fully expect us to finish the season strongly, given we're now down to one game a week. Same scenario as last season.

What I guess I'm getting at is... I can see what's coming based on past experience. But I don't care really.
 

wspur

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The run of form at the end of last season was the exception not the rule to Conte’s 18 months. I trust my eyes. We’re fucking shit. Players have got worse in his tenure. He’s playing one of the leagues best forwards out of position taking away the elements he does well and asking him to do things he’s never been able to do. The football is turgid. He talks about the club we love so condescendingly and negatively. Fuck him. I don’t give a fuck who he is I don’t want him representing our club

he talks disparagingly about his own players.

- Kulu
- Bentancur
- Perisic
- Lenglet
- Bissouma
- Richarlison
- Danjuma
- Forster
- Porro

These are all players that have joined during his tenure. 1/3rd of the squad!

He’s gaslighting the entire club into thinking we’re essentially relegation fodder. As if we haven’t been in the Champions League for the majority of the last 6/7 years!
This is spot on, nothing else to add.
 

Gpnash84

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Last night was very tough. I sat down at half time and couldn’t believe how flat and disinterested I felt given the fact it was a champions league knock out tie still on a knife edge against a giant like AC Milan. The patterns of play are predictable and pedestrian and the formation just prevents us taking control of a game or pinning a side back. Despite their prestige this is a very average Milan side and we barely registered an effort. For the brief 5 mins spell when Richarlison came on and we went 4-2-3-1 it looked much better but Romero’s moment of madness ended that. Given the inevitable parting of ways that’s happening in May, I hope we act now and move Conte on. It’s joyless and almost impossible to imagine that gets better before the end of the season. Personally I’d love Poch back, but if not someone who can play front foot football.
 

Trix

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I think you're right it was always going to be difficult to break Milan down however for £15m a year and a reputation for being an elite coach I expect more in the way of finding an alternative way.
Then your expectations aren't based on fact. This is the way he plays and always has. If you expected different, you expected too much. Be it with 3 or 4 at the back or 2 or 3 up front his philosophy is still the same and always will be. If he has the right players it works, if he doesn't it won't.
 

mattspur1

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I'll be gutted if Poch isn't in charge for the Forest game. Seems a no brainer to me. However, Levy is in charge so .....
 

Styopa

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He’s gaslighting the entire club into thinking we’re essentially relegation fodder. As if we haven’t been in the Champions League for the majority of the last 6/7 years!

Exactly this.

We have finished in the top six fourteen times in the last twenty years.

In the last ten years, we have only finished outside of the top six once.

We have finished fifth or higher seven times in the last ten years.

Even the mighty Tim Sherwood guided us to sixth.
 

THFCjosh

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If Levy doesn't sack Conte, it's clear he doesn't give 2 shits about the football side of Tottenham. The only reason Levy has to keep Conte until the end of the season is so he doesn't have to pay him off. It's clear to everyone Conte has lost both the fans and the dressing room.
 

Ashesmod

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The one thing that really surprised me yesterday with a team that relies so much on width and wing backs, is how much of our passing went through the middle of the park. So many times the defensive three passed to Skipp or Hojberg and were instantly outnumbered. For a team where width is key surely it's being trained into them on a daily basis that the first option is always width to take advantage of
 

DannyNZ

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Son won the golden boot last season playing under Conte. Kulesevski d great stats from January to the end of last season playing for Conte. Perisic won a Scudetto playing for Conte. Fact is all 3 have not performed to their usual standards this season - do we truly believe that Conte is to blame for their poor form?

The football is dire, the substitutions questionable, but it is the same manager and system that took us from mid table to 4th last season when he had players in form and was lucky with injuries. So I ask, is it;

a) the serial winner manager and his system to blame or
b ) the poor form of key players and lack of quality alternatives

Because if it is b) - then it doesn't really matter who is in charge.
For example Son has been out of form most of the season, is there really a lack of quality alternatives. Perisic is arguably at his best in an advanced role on the left, Richarlison played most of his football wide left for Everton, Danjuma is a proven quality footballer. I’m not buying there being a lack of quality alternatives.
 

sidford

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Few good posts by Matt who I believe was the first to break the Jose to us story and has broken a few transfer bits since Contes been here as well so has some contacts.

Completely agree with what he's saying and it's good that the press are looking past the manager for our failings
 

HotSprut

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Just get it over with. If there's no one suitable available, then let Mason take the control until the end of the season.

We all know Conte's done.
 

worcestersauce

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Last night's game didn't do it for me, to be fair we were missing important players in both legs and whether we like it or not that did make a huge difference, just over a month ago we had all our players back and were looking at a very good end of season and then injuries all over the show so I have some sympathy.
I lost it last Wednesday his decisions there made me realise he was on a completely different page to me and then last night capped it off. Whether Antonio Conte stays or go is no longer in question he is leaving so the point now is when? When will be best for the club, the players and the fans.
 

Ashesmod

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I really wonder how much Paratici is having a say in not sacking Conte. This could actually show that Levy is not the main sayer on the Footballing side. Also if you look at Italian football they do have a tendency to wait until the summer to get rid of however bad they are.
 
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