Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[THX2208]

Have you got any FIFA cards to explain those positions and attributes to us ?

???

 

[JCRD]

Hoping he incorporates them two with Bentancur infront & switch to a 3-5-2

Im not surprised by that but id go as far as to say without Dier we are fucked. In that three at the back he is conducting things, leading things and organising things. We have played with PEH and played with Skipp and played without and we looked shit at the back.

Its Dier that is needed.

 

[cookiemonster]

High fiving that wretched panic inducing clown after he has gotten away with another mistake tell you about the mentality of some of the players

 

[rio bryan]

Think we can lay some of the blame at Conte's feet, playing a system that doesn't suit our players, we haven't got one good wing back, we don't have a decent centre mid pairing, Sanchez struggles with being an orthodox CB let alone a RCB, because of this we are now lacking confidence all over the pitch, obviously a few injuries haven't helped.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Some of the posts starting to turn against Conte is plain ridiculous, if I'm honest. Beyond utter comprehension.

SC innit

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Think we can lay some of the blame at Conte's feet, playing a system that doesn't suit our players, we haven't got one good wing back, we don't have a decent centre mid pairing, Sanchez struggles with being an orthodox CB let alone a RCB, because of this we are now lacking confidence all over the pitch, obviously a few injuries haven't helped.

We have seen multiple times under a number of managers that using a system that does suit the players doesn't improve them and wouldn't guarantee a different result

Personally, I wouldn't use that as a stick to beat Conte with.

 

[SpursMadDave]

SC innit

More like twitter everyday, where am I supposed to go now?

 

[rossdapep]

We have seen multiple times under a number of managers that using a system that does suit the players doesn't improve them and wouldn't guarantee a different result

Personally, I wouldn't use that as a stick to beat Conte with.

Exactly.

If much much rather he goes with what is best in the long term. If this is the way he wants us to play from next season, then get those players who will stay to get use to it.

I think people are forgetting Poch was exactly the same. Played his system from the early days despite a lot of the players struggling with it and it giving us bad results.

Conte changed system at Chelsea but what people dont know is that he had been using that system in training and was ready to flick that switch.

A lot of people saying the 3-5-2 is what has worked for us and what he had at Inter but how do we know Conte believes that it isn't the suitable system for the PL??

Jose changed system every week and it led go the majority of the squad sick of it and left Jose no room left to negotiate. We have to let Conte do what he believes will work long term and if that is work on this system until he gets the players for it then fine by me.

 

[SpursMadDave]

We have seen multiple times under a number of managers that using a system that does suit the players doesn't improve them and wouldn't guarantee a different result

Personally, I wouldn't use that as a stick to beat Conte with.

We could play any system or formation it won't improve what we have I fear, at least as some have said that playing the way he wants going forward the players that will end up staying are learning, that's the only small crumb of comfort I can take right now as apart from Dier & Skipp that was pretty much our 'best 11' the last 2 games ?

 

[mdharris]

I thought the change to bring on Kulu and stick him on Neves worked reasonably well. Though it’s tough to say if Wolves had already decided to sit back at that point.

We played some decent football from that point on, but we didn’t trouble them enough. Although that’s arguable, Kane had a few chances you would expect him to do better (header, when he was through on his left foot) and Kulu could have done bettter perhaps, athough that was a tough one.

at the end of the day, Wolves capitalized on some glaring defensive errors. And we didn’t force any errors.

 

[king_yid]

God I need a joint

 

[whitesocks]

....
I like his post match comments today. It was measured and not the hissy fit we'd been told to expect.

He did talk of killing players tbf.

 

[EastUpperDK82]

Turning against Conte will be suicidal for us.... As said many times before he will make errors and bad decisions. Especially when trying to solve the puzzle of our squad. And that's a big puzzle... of course we are allowed to question things and be angry with bad performances... no problem... the game yesterday was a horror to watch because of the many mistakes and shaky defence... I was angry and disappointed... but mostly at the same players who have cost us many times before... Conte got it wrong from the start but tried to correct it... let him do what he needs to do. Let him say what he needs to say... Let him make mistakes as well... but we need to trust him... don't let the atmosphere turn toxic. Remember we had Nuno earlier in the season and we were talking about relegation !!!... now we have our first bad period under Conte... and some people panic ?‍ ... come on... be upset with the last two performances. Sure... But don't be unrealistic.

 

[Roberts84]

How can you say he doesn't, when you see the defenders who DO play.

Either way you try to dress it up, you can't keep playing the same defenders who are letting us down, season after season & manager after manager.

I’m not trying to dress it up but three managers haven’t played him

 

[double0]

Conte's system has won titles in two different leagues so people blaming Conte system really should reconsider this line of judgement. note we've had tactical managers and implemented different systems before him who also came up short.

The obvious common denominator are the players lack of quality and tactical awareness.

Our scouting network / recruitment has been atrocious after our first choice options to which we hardly ever get the options after them are very low grade.

Since we sold Walker to Manchester City for £50M we've had 4 right backs totalling closer to £70M and still we're not convinced.

Laughable

 

[Aphex]

They’re too comfortable. They play in a lovely stadium and at an amazing training ground. I’ve said it before, it’s all too nice. Too many coasters at this club from top to bottom. Conte has to have the time to sort it out and if he can’t then really we might as well all not bother until ENIC are gone because nothing will change until they do. It’s the last roll of the dice for them.

This is bang on. Davies was on AON two years ago sitting in a 6 star lodge restaurant going “why don’t they just show patience instead of always wanting to sign new players”. He’s a perfect example of an average player who should have been moved out long ago but he’s been kept around and is now starting games for us when he was nothing more than a back up under the previous squad

When you have a situation where back ups in 2018 are now your starters, you have an issue. It means you’ve got worse.

They are all too comfortable. Half the squad are not good enough and let us down under four different managers now. Sell them and let’s move on.

I don’t want to see anyone going “oh he’s a good player to have around the squad”. We all get sucked in by a couple of performances but they always revert to type. They are a joke. Time is up.

 

[dannyo]

People thinking 352 would suddenly cure our woes are gravely mistaken and considering what we've routinely been told that wholesale changes are afoot come the summer yet here we are with Conte being genuinely questioned by some?!?

There’s no quick fix here - it’s not the manager, it’s the players and the mentality that needs to permeate from the top down.

I’m far from writing this season off obviously but the focus is and always has been on the summer so these results/performances need to be put into context and certainly one that doesn’t draw a conclusion (laughably) that Conte isn’t the right man to take us forward.

I’m not sure it’s that black and white though. I agree at this point it’s unquestionably the players that are the problem, not the manager - they’ve been a problem to multiple managers. Conte is also undoubtedly our best shot at getting ourselves out of this huge mess we’ve created if we stick by him for the longer term (or as long as he sticks around).

However, there’s also a saying about doing the exact same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. The two man midfield sees us get overrun and heap pressure on a largely terrible defence. Son is either woefully out of form, or the way the team’s set up is not beneficial to him in any way. Just by going to 352 it might help to make us harder to beat and put our (arguably) best player in a position where he can be far more effective. It certainly won’t fix everything, only buying the bones of pretty much a whole new team and getting rid of the shit we’ve accumulated will, but it might help us get through the rest of this season without imploding completely. He can’t change the mentally weak dross that he has available to pick from but he can change what he does with it.

 

[spursfan77]

This is bang on. Davies was on AON two years ago sitting in a 6 star lodge restaurant going “why don’t they just show patience instead of always wanting to sign new players”. He’s a perfect example of an average player who should have been moved out long ago but he’s been kept around and is now starting games for us when he was nothing more than a back up under the previous squad

When you have a situation where back ups in 2018 are now your starters, you have an issue. It means you’ve got worse.

They are all too comfortable. Half the squad are not good enough and let us down under four different managers now. Sell them and let’s move on.

I don’t want to see anyone going “oh he’s a good player to have around the squad”. We all get sucked in by a couple of performances but they always revert to type. They are a joke. Time is up.

And now you’ve got fans doubting Conte is the right man because he is calling out the players for a lack of drive. The same set of players the last 4 managers couldn’t motivate either. Honestly, you couldn’t make it up! Get the players out, get the player in Conte wants and get on with it. If it takes 2 seasons to get us back as a champions league regular team then so be it but let conte do it. It’s obvious he’s the right man to drag the club kicking and screaming up the table.

 

[Aphex]

Does anybody think the players have switched off now the January window is closed?

It might sound silly but is it really? Davies, Winks, Sanchez, etc when the squad evaluation was ongoing they all raised their level for a little bit but as soon as some other players have been shown the door and Conte has said he can count on the remaining players, they’ve all dropped off again and reverted to type.

Is it far fetched to think they’ve all gone back into coasting mode?

I know none of them are good enough anyway even when they raise their game but I reckon they’ve all switched off again hence the recent performances. New manager bounce has expired and they fall back down to their baseline which is shite. Absolute coasters the lot of them.

 

[Jamturk]

The defence has become unstable since Romero come back.

Just saying