Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[Trix]

I don't know how fans can see the difference between Santini and Jol, Ramos and Redknapp, AVB/Sherwood and Poch and still say "it doesn't matter who the manager is".

And look at what every one of those managers, successful or not have said. Every single one of them from Poch and Harry to Santini and Nuno have the same complaint. They asked for players abc, they got xyz. It doesn't matter who comes in when the board are still picking players based purely on a financial basis.

 

[Trent Crimm]

Depends on your definition.

On the pitch = playing.

suspended = not playing.

does that help?

 

[carpediem991]

What misery? Poch got 3 months with them yet we are getting it takes players months to get into Conte way of playing. Remember, Poch said we need to be rebuild. He saw it first hand and was ignored. He got 3 players plus Clarke, Conte got Bents, Kulu, Perisic, Romero, Porro, Richy. And he still needs way more for us to be considered "brave"

Poch had a declining Dele, lost Dembele, and uninterested Eriksen, and 3 windows of no signings

I am in no way in camp Conte and would rather take Poch back but back to that Point it Was absolutely correct to part ways for various reason.

Big mistake was not to follow a similar path With attacking modern Football the latest after Mourinho.

 

[NickHSpurs]

I see we’re back us having to be thankful he’s doing us again favour by being our manager again.

 

[Gbspurs]

On the pitch = playing.

suspended = not playing.

does that help?

Yeah it wasn't that bit that was the issue but i suspect you know that.

Let me put it another way, was Ledley King not elite because he couldn't play every game?

 

[spurs9]

And look at what every one of those managers, successful or not have said. Every single one of them from Poch and Harry to Santini and Nuno have the same complaint. They asked for players abc, they got xyz. It doesn't matter who comes in when the board are still picking players based purely on a financial basis.

I'm not absolving Levy of the blame at all, there are many things wrong, the more we fix the more chance of success we will have, but the manager is one of those things.

 

[carpediem991]

And look at what every one of those managers, successful or not have said. Every single one of them from Poch and Harry to Santini and Nuno have the same complaint. They asked for players abc, they got xyz. It doesn't matter who comes in when the board are still picking players based purely on a financial basis.

And Paratici is doing what exactly?

 

[Trix]

Elite managers adapt. Conte can't adapt. Conte needs to spend and sign very specific players to achieve his goal. He still fcuked up Chelsea in the second season. No different to here

You can't look at his trophy record and say he isn't one of the top performing managers in the last decade. Whether he needs specific players or not he has still won shed loads.

And still to this day my main point still stands. The entirety of the football watching world all knew what he and Jose would demand to be successful before they joined, why didn't Levy and the other decision makers?

 

[spurs9]

Doris is far too passive with her biscuit tin game. The stupid old bint throws out plain digestives every time. What about a jammy dodger or a bourbon biscuit once in a while?

To be fair she asked for jammy dodgers but got chocolate digestives instead.

Levy also bought Doris Hobnobs but she refuses to plate them.

 

[thebenjamin]

And Paratici is doing what exactly?

What his boss it telling him, presumably

 

[Trent Crimm]

Yeah it wasn't that bit that was the issue but i suspect you know that.

Let me put it another way, was Ledley King not elite because he couldn't play every game?

Ledleys issues were injury related. Romeros are stupidity which ultimately costs the team.

elite covers all bases, not just ability. It’s mentality, playing under stress etc.

It’s a daft comparison anyway. Had Ledley been injury free he’d have been elite for man utd.

 

[mill]

I will never not be amazed at the inability for people to see that there is seldom ever only one cause of a problem.

The manager, board and players all have responsibility, all have been below standard, have all let themselves down. You can change one of the three entities and you will see temporary improvement but it is all the parts which are currently the problem. As always you should focus on the root.

If the manager doesn't fit then you question whose putting the jigsaw together. Doesn't mean he isn't a huge part of the problem, doesn't mean the players shouldn't be ashamed for constantly not showing any professional pride and playing within themselves.

If not of them are willing to change or adapt then they need to be changed themselves.

Whilst I agree I do feel that the apathy for true success does stem from the top

 

[MR_BEN]

He addressed the elephant in the room, so you want him to stay and serve shit up for longer as long as he tells the truth.

Conte would still blame everybody but himself when it still goes to shit.

 

[Chips]

I see we’re back us having to be thankful he’s doing us again favour by being our manager again.

We’re lucky to have him apparently

 

[NickHSpurs]

Decided to sell my ticket against Forest last week as I couldn’t stand the shite he’s been serving anymore up after AC Milan. I did admittedly watch Forest on a dodgy stream but I didn’t even watch a single minute of the game today even off the back of that game.

I genuinely think it’s the first time that’s happened since 2005 when I first got a season ticket.

It’s not all on Conte but he’s a big part of why I’m starting to feel numb to it all.

 

[jpascavitz]

I stepped out in the second half as I was attending a party for st Patrick's here in USA, which is quite celebrated. My Chelsea friend texted me that he's trying to get sacked after that presser.

After reading through the quotes and digesting them I can only say Conte is 100 percent on the money. I've texted my friends, on here, and at my local chapter that the players and the club are to blame and that the manager doesn't matter - unless he's a miracle worker. Good on him for calling out the club and hope it continues.

 

[parj]

You can't look at his trophy record and say he isn't one of the top performing managers in the last decade. Whether he needs specific players or not he has still won shed loads.

And still to this day my main point still stands. The entirety of the football watching world all knew what he and Jose would demand to be successful before they joined, why didn't Levy and the other decision makers?

He is a great manager when he can sign his players and spend to his hearts content. Remember, this is a manager who threw a tantrum after he won the title with Chelsea and still wanted more players. He is a sugar daddy manager, not a real world club manager, which is why he won't succeed with us.

He will never succeed with Levy or any owner unless he had £250m every transfer window

 

[Trix]

I'm not absolving Levy of the blame at all, there are many things wrong, the more we fix the more chance of success we will have, but the manager is one of those things.

Indeed, but when one of those problems is the guy in charge of the lot what are the chances?

Remember "we are taking our time getting the next manager right, one who will play exciting football and fits the Spurs DNA"

7 weeks later.....

"Welcome Nuno Espirito Santo"

And during that time we had more swipe lefts, than Susan Boyle's tinder profile.

 

[parj]

I am in no way in camp Conte and would rather take Poch back but back to that Point it Was absolutely correct to part ways for various reason.

Big mistake was not to follow a similar path With attacking modern Football the latest after Mourinho.

The biggest mistake Levy made was showing he gets awe-struck when in the presence of trophy winning managers. He let Jose tell him he can win that squad the title and got mugged. He should have listened to the person that breathed passion into the club and that was over achieving

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Indeed, but when one of those problems is the guy in charge of the lot what are the chances?

Remember "we are taking our time getting the next manager right, one who will play exciting football and fits the Spurs DNA"

7 weeks later.....

"Welcome Nuno Espirito Santo"

And during that time we had more swipe lefts, than Susan Boyle's tinder profile.

You think we are close to the point where Levy just runs to his safe option Poch. I mean hard to keep Conte after that outburst.