Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

[fishhhandaricecake]

I have absolutely no interest in him signing a new deal and want a change in the summer. We get the odd result and performance against Palace/City for example and then immediately revert to type, it must be 1 in 5 games I enjoy.

This isn’t a knee jerk reaction from today as this is what we’re consistently seeing under him.

Yea it’s not enjoyable very often is it I’d certainly not be against Poch back in summer as we won’t win anything playing like this anyway so if so I’d rather we played better football and had a more positive vibe with the fans and club.

 

[wspur]

Get him out

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

cool story bro.

You can say “cool story bro” all you like but you literally are rewriting history.

In your version of events, Tanganga injured his knee under Mourinho, which is quite incredible seeing as Mourinho was the Roma manager when that happened.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

He’s had a tough year personally and i really feel for him, that said he isn’t the man to lead us forward for a number of reasons so i’d be happy enough if we decided to part ways.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Ducking excuses people make to cover his crap decisions. He had an operation!! So what? It wasn’t a lobotomy ffs. You telling me he couldn’t see Kulu and Son having stinkers? Or Perisic and not changing anything.

Also losing 3-1 and we wait until 75th minute to bring on Richy and 79th for Danjuma… it’s so passive and trying to not get beaten worse rather than trying to win.

Same as with Jose and Nuno when we play like we do AND lose then the knives ? come out pretty quickly.

 

[GutBucket]

Klopp's midfield is crap and his system doesn't work, plus defenders regressed. Or it's just that when your midfield gets outplayed that defenders look shit when constantly under pressure. Pep has same problem with Rodrigo regressing. Club won't buy him 2 starting CBs (would need more for backups) so it just won't work here.

 

[Metalhead]

He won't quit.
We either have this until the end of the season.

If Levy sacks him, he should step back and we need a rebuild from the top to the bottom of the club.

It's the 'DNA' reference after Jose left that I find annoying. Clearly that was just said to curry favour with the fans as it clearly meant nothing.

 

[ReadieSpur]

I have to disagree. What he has at the back is bottom half of the league quality. No manager does better with this defence. People talk about how well Poch did but that defence is miles ahead of this one. This inconsistency is exactly what to expect with this squad. It's half quality.

If we've got a poor quality pool of players in defence, then why play a system that relies on a defensive system? Not only does he play it, he's rigidly stuck to it when it doesn't work.

 

[ilikeost]

The only reason Levy won't sack him is because it would be embarrassing for Levy and further proof of his incompetence when it comes to the footballing side of things.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Conte and Mourinho will probably go down to be two of greatest managers who I'm sure really wish to win things for us and really like us. But sadly one way or another, one being Levy is in charged of us, that will never happen. I can foresee another sad breakup soon. Sad for me because I'm so glad to have them with us when they joined and thought we can achieve great things, no matter how some of you hated them. What a shit life as supporter of this club to invest so much emotion in it.

Looking both like poor appointments. Conte isn’t getting the most out of this squad and nor did Jose.

Poch got us to a CL final with Winks & Sissoko in CM and no Harry Kane…

I just don’t think these spend big to win quick defensive style ‘world class’ managers are a good fit for our club and model.

Not to say Conte and Jose are bad managers, especially not Conte but I don’t think they’re a good fit for the way we operate and for the style of play our fans want to see and so it just makes the atmosphere amongst the fan’s negative and toxic.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Looking both like poor appointments. Conte isn’t getting the most out of this squad and nor did Jose.

Poch got us to a CL final with Winks & Sissoko in CM and no Harry Kane…

I just don’t think these spend big to win quick defensive style ‘world class’ managers are a good fit for our club and model.

Not to say Conte and Jose are bad managers, especially not Conte but I don’t think they’re a good fit for the way we operate and for the style of play our fans want to see and so it just makes the atmosphere amongst the fan’s negative and toxic.

Agree no doubt. But for managers of their calibre and the feeling like they really love the club just makes me hope that we can really succeed together. But it just is not happening..

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Trippier, Schar, Botman, Burn. at the start of the season, hardly a defence you would think would only have conceded 12 league goals. that's coaching, why can't the 'elite' Conte make our defence slightly better?

On paper that is still far better than ours. Botman and Burn ain’t bad, way better than Dier.

 

[Albertbarich]

I find this debate just like the ENIC one ( it's linked to be fair) to be far too tribal.

Saying Conte is under performing or Conte did this wrong or even right doesn't mean you're on one side of the ENIC in or out debate and I can't help but feel this is often what it boils down to

Yes our defence is miles off, yes we should be better at getting players in and getting them out but by the same token we do often play utterly boring shit football, make too many mistakes and have a manager who is stubborn to a fault. All of these things can be true at the same time.

Today we looked under prepared, Conte got it wrong and got the subs wrong too. That doesn't make Daniel Levy any better or worse at his job but what it does do is ruin my weekend.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

You can say “cool story bro” all you like but you literally are rewriting history.

In your version of events, Tanganga injured his knee under Mourinho, which is quite incredible seeing as Mourinho was the Roma manager when that happened.

Funny how you’re arguing semantics and not the important bits.

It was his thigh, not his knee injury, I got the two mixed up. The thigh injury is what halted his trajectory. He was playing extremely well, out of position at RB up until that time IIRC.

That’s not a “rubbish defender” to me. But you’re entitled to your opinion.

 

[midoshairband]

On paper that is still far better than ours. Botman and Burn ain’t bad, way better than Dier.

accepted. but best defence in the league? only conceded 12 goals? playing way better than they should on paper.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Funny how you’re arguing semantics and not the important bits.

It was his thigh, not his knee injury, I got the two mixed up. The thigh injury is what halted his trajectory. He was playing extremely well, out of position at RB up until that time IIRC.

That’s not a “rubbish defender” to me. But you’re entitled to your opinion.

Nope. Still wrong.

 

[Styopa]

It’s Conte, it’s Levy and it’s the players.

Levy is great on the business side- but makes the same mistakes time and time again on the football side.

Conte is a fantastic coach- under the right circumstances.

We have some truly talented players - and some not so great.

But most importantly, this squad, this manager and this chairman just don’t fit. They’re not right for each other. They are a terrible fit.

 

[mpickard2087]

The main worry is that this wasn’t an aberration. We've had an alright fortnight prior, but this game we have seen on repeat for a number of months now. Wide open. System being completely exposed. Massive gaps between the lines. No press, yet no attempt at defensive solidity. The opposition going at our defence at will, and individuals then falling apart under the barrage of pressure. Defenders looking calamitous, attackers putting in pathetic efforts to help them out, a massive massive disconnect. Last week was an anomaly, we made a concerted effort to counter-punch from a tight 5-4-1 shape, any game where we feel/have to try and do a bit more we’re looking an absolute state. Have done most of the season, and you can’t just switch on second half and/or miraculously fightback and clawback two goal deficits every single time. Play this chaotically and tactically shoddy and you will lose plenty of football matches, whatever your line up and whatever money spent on it.

Today was just an extreme repeat of things we have seen this season, game after game after game. And probably came at the worst time for Conte given last weekend and arguably the best performance of the season he wasn’t there for. I’ve got sympathy in some of the players he has to use, but we’ve been seeing the exact same thing served up all season long and this is completely unacceptable. Things simply have to change.

 

[TOLBINY]

I am a big Conte fan - but the delay in making subs today is unforgivable - and the persistence in playing 3/5 at the back when we don't have the players to do it is just stubborn.
Our squad is currently better suited to 4-3-3, something like Emerson, Romero, (??), Davies as a back 4 - just let them defend,
Conte either
Does not care (I doubt it)
Has got the hump (likely)
Or has decided he is off at the end of the season (most likely)

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

Nope. Still wrong.

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Why you hyper focused on the type of injury and not his performances? Is this the only leg you have to stand on?

If I had said injuries in totality would that have made you happier?