Edmond Tapsoba

[Mattspurs1982]

*Joins the thread hoping for Tapsoba news, sees discussions of Dier’s spurs career

 

[WiganSpur]

Natural progression would be Tanganga and Sanchez sold as they were on the bench. Davies and Dier drop to more squad rotation as they were regulars. 2 new centre backs signed who are an improvement on them both.

Under Conte yes but bar Davies who's probably slightly ahead of the other three ability wise they're all a similar level. But Sanchez and Japhet will be a better fit for Ange's tactics because of their pace. It depends on offers in I suppose, but all things being equal I'd rather us keep Japh since he's HG.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Yeah, we just got 10m for Winks, surely we can squeeze a bit more for that lot, without even being too greedy.

Apparently PEH is only 15m

 

[mil1lion]

Under Conte yes but bar Davies who's probably slightly ahead of the other three ability wise they're all a similar level. But Sanchez and Japhet will be a better fit for Ange's tactics because of their pace. It depends on offers in I suppose, but all things being equal I'd rather us keep Japh since he's HG.

Neither are nearly good enough on the ball. Dier edges them in that department with his long range passing although he's had some crazy wayward passes more often of late. They all need replacing but I would sell the others prior to Dier. Although in all honesty whoever we get good offers for can be sold. I guess Tanganga is home grown so there is a case to keep him. Sanchez 100% must go because he's no good in possession.

 

[WiganSpur]

Neither are nearly good enough on the ball. Dier edges them in that department with his long range passing although he's had some crazy wayward passes more often of late. They all need replacing but I would sell the others prior to Dier. Although in all honesty whoever we get good offers for can be sold. I guess Tanganga is home grown so there is a case to keep him. Sanchez 100% must go because he's no good in possession.

Of course in an ideal world we'd get rid of all of them but not possible in one window and for me Japh is also probably the most coachable of the lot due to his age and attitude. I could see Ange taking a liking to him, and there is a possibility of him showing some improvement on the ball with time. You can't coach Dier to play a high line but you can at least try to work with Japh on improving his distribution.

 

[only1waddle]

Other clubs are strengthening and will continue to do so, if EL/CL is a priority then we need to bring this guy in as we rarely get the chance to sign this level of player, bit like that "Leicester" season with clubs in transition, this is the moment we need to strike for quality and long term planning, obviously need to shift a fair number out but I think we should go big..

 

[mil1lion]

Of course in an ideal world we'd get rid of all of them but not possible in one window and for me Japh is also probably the most coachable of the lot due to his age and attitude. I could see Ange taking a liking to him, and there is a possibility of him showing some improvement on the ball with time.

I guess the big concern is whether he can stay injury free. Particularly as he's more likely to play right centre back and Romero often misses games too. This is where maybe Tapsoba would be ideal as could also cover RCB if they're both out and get say VdV to play alongside. But yeah I doubt we replace them all and honestly whoever we end up keeping is going to have question marks.

 

[McFlash]

Apparently PEH is only 15m

I guess that's according to some on here, rather than being his actual worth?

It's kinda pointless trying to guess how much we can get for anyone because it all depends on the market.
And while I know the club have been guilty of overvaluing players at times, they've also got good money for some pretty mediocre players too.

We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

I guess that's according to some on here, rather than being his actual worth?

It's kinda pointless trying to guess how much we can get for anyone because it all depends on the market.
And while I know the club have been guilty of overvaluing players at times, they've also got good money for some pretty mediocre players too.

We'll just have to wait and see.

Yeah we’ve over valued players in the past. When UTD were offering 60m for Dier I was adamant we shouldn’t sell. Hindsight on all. We’re not getting 25m for him but he’s more than 5M

 

[McFlash]

Yeah we’ve over valued players in the past. When UTD were offering 60m for Dier I was adamant we shouldn’t sell. Hindsight on all. We’re not getting 25m for him but he’s more than 5M

Didn't we get 8 to 10m from Celtic for CCV?
Yeah he's younger than Dier but Eric is an experience international and certainly worth more than 5 bloody million, especially to a lower PL club.

 

[SpursSince1980]

*Joins the thread hoping for Tapsoba news, sees discussions of Dier’s spurs career

Or in SC parlance; just another Tuesday.

 

[Adam456]

I do hope we sign both and can't see any reason why we couldn't shift enough players to cover one of the fees

As an aside, I think that Tapsoba looks imperious and commanding.

However, maybe it's just the particular clips that have found their way into YouTube compilations but am I the only one who thinks he looks a little slow ? Is his positioning and calm tackling so good that we don't notice ?

 

[kd2000]

I would like us to sign Tapioca but if we don't I'm sure we will be ok

 

[Adam456]

I do hope we sign both and can't see any reason why we couldn't shift enough players to cover one of the fees

As an aside, I think that Tapsoba looks imperious and commanding.

However, maybe it's just the particular clips that have found their way into YouTube compilations but am I the only one who thinks he looks a little slow ? Is his positioning and calm tackling so good that we don't notice ?

Indeed doing some googling - according to this site, which could obviously be bollox, he is only the 19th fastest player at Leverkusen

Leverkusen Soccer Players Top Speeds - speedsdb.com

Here you will find all the Leverkusen soccer players top speeds. You can use filters and narrow down by soccer teams to find the player of your choosing.

speedsdb.com

 

[robotsonic]

Looks from the Bundesliga's own stats he was 70th percentile for top speed the past season, and about 55th percentile the previous year, which seems to suggest that he's not specifically quick in the way that Van de Ven is (was 9th fastest in the league), but above average. Not sure there are any stats for players getting off of the mark though which might be what the eyes are seeing.

Stats: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/stats/players/top-speed

 

[Adam456]

Looks from the Bundesliga's own stats he was 70th percentile for top speed the past season, and about 55th percentile the previous year, which seems to suggest that he's not specifically quick in the way that Van de Ven is (was 9th fastest in the league), but above average. Not sure there are any stats for players getting off of the mark though which might be what the eyes are seeing.

Stats: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/stats/players/top-speed

Thanks- that's definitely more reassuring than what I found.

Would be interesting to see how they measure that because, as you say, we will typically be seeing them off the mark, say 0-20mph in normal play

 

[worcestersauce]

Good positioning and reading of the game is worth two yards in a running race.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Thanks- that's definitely more reassuring than what I found.

Would be interesting to see how they measure that because, as you say, we will typically be seeing them off the mark, say 0-20mph in normal play

He's the tallest player in the top 10 the only other defender is Frimpong he plays Right Back. It's not common for someone as tall as him to be as quick as he is. I thought he was going to be about 6'. He'll get quicker and stronger yet.

Personally prefer we get him over Tapsoba.

 

[DannyNZ]

Collins is 22 though so that's an investment, Davies at 30 and Dier at 29 won't be commanding fees of £15m apiece.

You’d be extremely lucky to 15m for the pair of them combined.

 

[Mundo]

Top speed, whilst important, isn’t the most informative metric. If you look at sprinters it takes them 60-70m until they hit their top speed - how many footballers do a full 60m sprint? Not that many given the length of a pitch and the patterns of play, which also means the recordings of top speed statistics aren’t truly representative because many players won’t necessarily have got up to theirs.

For a defender, especially when playing a high line, a better measure would be acceleration or speed over 20-30m. Better still is body positioning, reaction time and ability to read the game. Stats are useful but they are only part of a wider picture.