EastLondonYid
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Does MoPo know what he is doing?
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jolegend
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I dont think you can blame him for the defence.
We lack any sort of defensive midfielder to shield the back 4. Plus, I dont really rate any of our defenders individually. Dier has potential, Vertonghen is ok. But Kyle Walker yesterday summed himself up and the rest arent much better.
Give him a summer to bring in players to build a collective defensive unit.
We lack any sort of defensive midfielder to shield the back 4. Plus, I dont really rate any of our defenders individually. Dier has potential, Vertonghen is ok. But Kyle Walker yesterday summed himself up and the rest arent much better.
Give him a summer to bring in players to build a collective defensive unit.
I'm still confident he is doing a good job and taking us in the right direction
He's still working with a bit of a mess of a squad from the Bale transfer window
He needs the summer to really put his own mark on the team - sell some of the flops and deadwood and bring in a few key players to add leadership, experience and address the imbalances in our squad (add quality in areas we lack it)
I still however get the impression that we may have missed a trick going for him instead of Koeman - although my initial impression of this was based on what I knew about Koeman as a player and a captain of men he's also done very well for Southampton in his first season in the EPL (though of course it is merely one season) I can't help but feel Koeman is the better managerial prospect
He's still working with a bit of a mess of a squad from the Bale transfer window
He needs the summer to really put his own mark on the team - sell some of the flops and deadwood and bring in a few key players to add leadership, experience and address the imbalances in our squad (add quality in areas we lack it)
I still however get the impression that we may have missed a trick going for him instead of Koeman - although my initial impression of this was based on what I knew about Koeman as a player and a captain of men he's also done very well for Southampton in his first season in the EPL (though of course it is merely one season) I can't help but feel Koeman is the better managerial prospect
Seems a fairly reasonable question too mate imo. I am quite concerned about him to be fair and not sure what everyone else thinks but his CV is not very good at all, to suggest he has the makings of a good manager.
There is only FIVE teams conceded more goals than we have and out of that five, four of them are the bottom four teams. That is an horrendous stat and one that will win you nothing and achieve nothing with.
The season is almost over and we are actually looking worse at defending now than at any other time, we most certainly are not seeing any sign of even a slight improvement. Take out Hugo Lloris and we would have lost a lot more games and conceded a hell of a lot more goals, i think nobody can argue that fact.
Quite often he makes very poor selection choices and yesterday lost us the game by half time because of that yesterday.
People will point to a cup final, in which we didn't really play anyone of any note and it's only about 6 games before the final we needed to win.
Take out the Arsenal game and the early game against QPR and we have not been very attractive to watch and seem to lack any real attacking threat.
He certainly needs his own players and then next season to show what he can achieve with those players, but i worry big time about the amount of basic defending issues.
Who can we blame then?? If you are leaking goals you must change it then not keep playing the same way and hope for the best.
NEVILLEB
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He didn't ask you to guess his opinion.
Kendall
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I'm not convinced and never have been. I think at the moment hes the most overrated manager in the league and we're more leaky than under Sherwood and with less of an attacking threat. The young players he's playing are no more than Sherwood was already beginning to do (look at the last game under Tim), yet they seem to be buying him slack from fans and media. No plan b, no defence, a weak and intermittant form of the pressing game, the team uncomfortable with not having the ball and toothless in creating chances. All is not rosey at the Lane for me.
Kendall
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Give him a summer to bring players in? Last summer we signed 3 defenders and a DM. He has two dedicated DMs and plays neither. I can certainly blame his lack of organisation skills. Reminds me of watching Southampton capitulate twice against us last year.
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Those performances are sticking with me as well. Hopefully he is learning his lessons and we will start to see him change things around but the issues we are seeing at our club are the exact same ones that Southampton fans used to complain about him.
That said he still deserves time to learn more himself as a coach and hopefully we as a club if we stick with him will see the benefits long term.
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Whilst there are many aspects about his management of the club that I am pleased with I believe we cannot continue to ignore fact that we consistently leak goals with basic defensive errors that even pub teams don't make.
Why is it that time and time again we invite teams to score by standing still and doing nothing when on running attackers are threatening to steal the ball from our defenders ? Being decisive and kicking or heading the ball out to safety as opposed to standing there like shop dummies and /or pathetically trying to shield the ball is not something that needs hours and hours of coaching, it might not look pretty but it would cut down our goals conceded ratio significantly and immediately if we adopted this simple change right away. Furthermore why is it that particular defenders think it is a good idea to put our goal in danger by needlessly and carelessly passing or heading the ball back to Lloris when any fool can see that it's plainly obvious the ball won't reach him and will instead go to an opposition forward ( on this subject, Walker, can you please explain to me why you think this is a good idea to try this with increasing regularity when it's obvious to everyone else, or it should be that it's anything but a good idea ?)
Why is it that time and time again we invite teams to score by standing still and doing nothing when on running attackers are threatening to steal the ball from our defenders ? Being decisive and kicking or heading the ball out to safety as opposed to standing there like shop dummies and /or pathetically trying to shield the ball is not something that needs hours and hours of coaching, it might not look pretty but it would cut down our goals conceded ratio significantly and immediately if we adopted this simple change right away. Furthermore why is it that particular defenders think it is a good idea to put our goal in danger by needlessly and carelessly passing or heading the ball back to Lloris when any fool can see that it's plainly obvious the ball won't reach him and will instead go to an opposition forward ( on this subject, Walker, can you please explain to me why you think this is a good idea to try this with increasing regularity when it's obvious to everyone else, or it should be that it's anything but a good idea ?)
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dricha1
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Sorry but I'm not having we were better under Sherwood. Yesterday was poor, the first time in a long time where I saw no effort. We have definetly been more competitive in most games this season, even against the top clubs. But last season we were awful to City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Norwich and Weat Ham scoring 1 and conceding 16 under Sherwood. So to say we score less and concede more is dubious at best.
The jury is still out on Poch, he needs time to obtain the players that fit his system. But the atmosphere is infinitely better around the club and will be conducive to better performances on the pitch, and for that Poch needs credit.
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He's delivering us to where we deserve to be, which is anywhere between 5th and 7th. Anything better than this is, will be a monumental achievement, when you look at the tools he has to work with. We entered the season with Kane, Adebayor and Soldado as our attacking options. We got lucky with Kane, but we cant solely rely on him and we need alternatives, which has been evident all year.
dontcallme
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I'm still a little on the fence. I've seen signs of us being good and signs that our setup is wrong.
Poch went down the AVB approach of not doing a huge amount of business in his first season, this was so he could analyse our players and give them a chance to impress.
Imagine if he'd simply bought a striker, we might not have seen the emergence of Kane.
I think Kane, Bentaleb, Rose and Mason have been successful through Poch's methods. They are down to earth hard workers and are doing well because of this determination.
But sometimes, like yesterday I feel the lineup is all wrong. I didn't feel confident at all that Townsend would create much trouble against Utd and we left ourselves exposed as a result. At times I'm just not confident that we are setting up correctly.
It seems the late comebacks are a cover for the poor initial plan.
I don't think the OP's question is black and white. I will judge him more next season. Lets see if he really has determined the true weaknesses and areas for improvement.
So for now I remain on the fence.
Poch went down the AVB approach of not doing a huge amount of business in his first season, this was so he could analyse our players and give them a chance to impress.
Imagine if he'd simply bought a striker, we might not have seen the emergence of Kane.
I think Kane, Bentaleb, Rose and Mason have been successful through Poch's methods. They are down to earth hard workers and are doing well because of this determination.
But sometimes, like yesterday I feel the lineup is all wrong. I didn't feel confident at all that Townsend would create much trouble against Utd and we left ourselves exposed as a result. At times I'm just not confident that we are setting up correctly.
It seems the late comebacks are a cover for the poor initial plan.
I don't think the OP's question is black and white. I will judge him more next season. Lets see if he really has determined the true weaknesses and areas for improvement.
So for now I remain on the fence.
Everlasting Seconds
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Yes and no. He does have a system which works on a good day. But it falls to pieces too easily. Like I wrote in the match thread yesterday, there is a word in Hindi, Jugaar. Translations into English could be "Ad hoc", "improvising", "thinking on your feet" what have you. It is an approach to problem solving. The point of jugaar is to not follow the rules, but to act in way which produces results on the spot. Used carefully, it could be the weapon Pochettino is now lacking.
muppetman
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When we beat Chelsea and Arsenal he knows what he is doing. When we lose to ManU he doesn't - obvious!
I really hope that Levy backs him and sticks with him because I am bored of the constant merry go round of managers, coaching staff and players.
I really hope that Levy backs him and sticks with him because I am bored of the constant merry go round of managers, coaching staff and players.
shelfboy68
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Who do we blame for the defence then seeing as we have conceded a glut of goals too easy in the last few weeks.
He was a top international defender and now a highly paid manager, its his job to organise the team ongoing and for each individual game tacticaly.
No one wants to see him fail thats the last thing we need but if he cant manage it then he will go the same way as the others wont he its results driven business ask levy.
