Do our players want it enough?

[SamR]

I'm sitting here massively frustrated about the rubbish I am listening too at WHL...I have no idea about the passion our players are showing on the pitch today, but just wanted to bring something up that I thought about this weekend.

I was out in Nubar on saturday and half way through the night Defoe and Walker walked in. Now don't get me wrong, they weren't going mental or anything but considering they had just played and then travelled back from Sunderland and had a game in 2 days, why the hell were they out into the earlier hours? My friends tell me that Van der Vaart is always out drinking in Brookmans Park aswell... I just can't believe that they act like this when were at the business end of the season. I know everyone has downtime and needs to have fun, but surely that fun should be had when the season has been decided?

Players always go on about how they want to play in the champs league and talk about moving to clubs in that competition, but they only have themselves to blame...

 

[CJMurray]

No.

The two players we have that really want it (Parker and Gallas) weren't there.

 

[littlemandefoe]

Dude, they dont give a shit. Thats the problem. They recieve their week wages, 40,000 pounds... more than I make in three years. They dont give a fuck. Why should they. Its a celebrity thing, its about how good they look... not about how well you play. They dont care and its sad. We're shit and the only few players that show something is Parker and sometimes Bale.

 

[littlemandefoe]

Dude, they dont give a shit. Thats the problem. They recieve their week wages, 40,000 pounds... more than I make in three years. They dont give a fuck. Why should they. Its a celebrity thing, its about how good they look... not about how well you play. They dont care and its sad. We're shit and the only few players that show something is Parker and sometimes Bale.

 

[Dare!]

Of course they do. Anyone who honestly thinks otherwise is a bit silly.

 

[YiddoJames]

Norwich showed much more desire today in all respects. Without Parker setting the tone we were second to all the loose balls and also lacked leadership. Only Friedel and Nelsen provided any

 

[lillywhites61]

A team as strong as ours put out today should have had no problem at all beating that Norwich side, totally unacceptable and as far as I can see an obvious lack of desire and mental application, also probably got Sunday on their minds which is poor if it is the case.

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

We have these results every season at WHL. Last year it was Wigan. Season before Wolves. Far too often we turn up and think we will just roll over teams.

Far too many of our players believe their own hype. Give me a few of those Swansea or Norwich players any day and let them go quietly about their work.

You'd think our team has achieved something. We've achieved nothing except some really attractive football at times. But then that's always been the Spurs way.

 

[riggi]

The spurs way is on par with the west ham way.

 

[lillywhites61]

The spurs way is on par with the west ham way.

I think that is taking it a bit far!

 

[riggi]

Not really mate. Arrogance on both parts. Whats our way? Beat Ac Milan then loose to Wolves at home the next? Fed up of it to be honest. If thats our way fine but lets cut all this top club shit and get on with 'the tottenham way'. Time to change the mentality of the club.

 

[riggi]

Not having a pop at you btw mate lol.

 

[Leo]

They should be ashamed of themselves after that performance. I still think we can make the CL but they are making it very difficult for themselves. It's like they don't know what's at stake, where was the urgency. They looked tired too. Why did we go back to 442, the form we're in and he goes and underestimates Norwich, I don't know, maybe he didn't, I think players certainly did. We need to be winning ugly at this stage.

 

[mpickard2087]

I do think we lack desire and mental application to the task in front of us. I know things cant always go our way but there is more than enough evidence to suggest that we are lazy and switch off. Look at the number of times this season for instance when we have gone 2-0 up and the players have then strolled around with no purpose and switched off, giving an opposition a sniff of getting back into the match.

I do think we kind of have an arrogant touch about us, especially certain individuals, that we come out sometimes for games assuming we can play teams off the park and we dont need to battle. When its our day, and with the footballing ability in our squad, it looks spectactular at times. But when its not.... we get games like today.

 

[NEVILLEB]

They gave up after the Man City loss.

That's sulking because they knew the title had gone. Very disappointing that they didn't regroup and push for the top 4.

 

[Gedi]

Of course they do. Anyone who honestly thinks otherwise is a bit silly.

To say the least.

 

[Hot-Spur]

Of course they do. Anyone who honestly thinks otherwise is a bit silly.

If the last few games is showing them as "wanting it" they have a funny way of showing it. I haven't seen any passion, fight, or desire in them since the Newcastle game.

 

[Dare!]

If the last few games is showing them as "wanting it" they have a funny way of showing it. I haven't seen any passion, fight, or desire in them since the Newcastle game.

I disagree. We were the better side in the Man Utd match, should have won against Everton and Chelsea after great second half performances and we fought back after Swansea equalized last week.

A*senal (after the 2 goals we scored), Sunderland and Norwich today were dreadful though, I'll give you that.

 

[hybridsoldier]

At Spurs we are in a bit of a halfway house.

It's not quite like Norwich where they are all fighting to prove they belong in the PL and are PL players

And its not quite Man United where they are continually fighting for honours and one of the biggest clubs in the world and you have to show you want it just to get on the bench let alone the pitch.

We are in the middle. The players here get paid really well, they have to be of a certain quality to get in the team, but yet are not a club fighting for honours all the time. There is no pressure on them for success. They know that worst case - they get paid £50,000 a week and a bonus and the fact they play for Spurs will mean other PL clubs will have an interest in them so they are PL guaranteed really. On the other hand if they do well/the team does...they could earn a move to Man United, Chelsea or a European side.

I said in the match thread, the thing that winds me up the most if that the players aren't performing and yet they will turn around in the summer and say they want CL football or a new contract...like they had no part in shanking a 4 month stint in 3rd place in the space of 5 weeks.

 

[Hot-Spur]

I disagree. We were the better side in the Man Utd match, should have won against Everton and Chelsea after great second half performances and we fought back after Swansea equalized last week.

A*senal (after the 2 goals we scored), Sunderland and Norwich today were dreadful though, I'll give you that.

Yet we still didn't win any of those games, I remember listening to the Chelsea game they where there for the taking and more effort on our part and we would have won.

You can also add the Stoke game to the list of dreadful perfomances.