Danny Rose

[alfie103]

How fucking frustrating must it be for Rose? He's been at the Club since he was 16 and was put through the mill by our so called "fans" when he wasn't an instant success despite having to suffer, what was it, 7 or 8 managers along the way? Despite the upheaval and the merry go round he's worked hard and become a fantastic player. And before anyone jumps up and down about him being the player he is just because of Poch that's just Hogwash. So why should he stand back, choke it all back and doth his cap at the management and be expected to thank them for paying him less than he's worth and for their lack of ambition. Let's face it, the team has upheld its end of the bargain by succeeding beyond expectations, isn't about time that management fulfilled some of theirs?

I completely agree that he hasn't gone about things in an ideal matter, but it doesn't make his concerns any less valid.

Danny, is that you?

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

How fucking frustrating must it be for Rose? He's been at the Club since he was 16 and was put through the mill by our so called "fans" when he wasn't an instant success despite having to suffer, what was it, 7 or 8 managers along the way? Despite the upheaval and the merry go round he's worked hard and become a fantastic player. And before anyone jumps up and down about him being the player he is just because of Poch that's just Hogwash. So why should he stand back, choke it all back and doth his cap at the management and be expected to thank them for paying him less than he's worth and for their lack of ambition. Let's face it, the team has upheld its end of the bargain by succeeding beyond expectations, isn't about time that management fulfilled some of theirs?

I completely agree that he hasn't gone about things in an ideal matter, but it doesn't make his concerns any less valid.

Who cares about him being or not being an instant success? He genuinely believes he was a top player before Poch came in but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that isn't true. What's frustrating for him must be that the history in his head isn't the history everyone in the real world knows existed

 

[dk-yid]

Compare him to 22 year old Rose.

That Rose was a horrendous left back.

Two left feet he had...

 

[acid-casual]

How fucking frustrating must it be for Rose? He's been at the Club since he was 16 and was put through the mill by our so called "fans" when he wasn't an instant success despite having to suffer, what was it, 7 or 8 managers along the way? Despite the upheaval and the merry go round he's worked hard and become a fantastic player. And before anyone jumps up and down about him being the player he is just because of Poch that's just Hogwash. So why should he stand back, choke it all back and doth his cap at the management and be expected to thank them for paying him less than he's worth and for their lack of ambition. Let's face it, the team has upheld its end of the bargain by succeeding beyond expectations, isn't about time that management fulfilled some of theirs?

I completely agree that he hasn't gone about things in an ideal matter, but it doesn't make his concerns any less valid.

OK Danny

 

[Johnny J]

I find it hard to imagine that shaw is the better player, no matter how pissed off we are that statement seems to be rose tinted glasses syndrome for me

Amazeballs

 

[Gb160]

How fucking frustrating must it be for Rose? He's been at the Club since he was 16 and was put through the mill by our so called "fans" when he wasn't an instant success despite having to suffer, what was it, 7 or 8 managers along the way? Despite the upheaval and the merry go round he's worked hard and become a fantastic player. And before anyone jumps up and down about him being the player he is just because of Poch that's just Hogwash. So why should he stand back, choke it all back and doth his cap at the management and be expected to thank them for paying him less than he's worth and for their lack of ambition. Let's face it, the team has upheld its end of the bargain by succeeding beyond expectations, isn't about time that management fulfilled some of theirs?

I completely agree that he hasn't gone about things in an ideal matter, but it doesn't make his concerns any less valid.

Why is it hogwash?
Why did he happily sign a new contract less than a year ago?

If these comments had come because contract negotiations had broken down, or after we'd just won't the double, then maybe you'd have a point.

 

[lukadownthelane]

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/danny-rose.109168/

If anyone wants to read this (I hadn't read it at the time). I can only imagine what twitter was like if this is SC. There's no doubt the fans were awful to him.

 

[Gb160]

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/danny-rose.109168/

If anyone wants to read this (I hadn't read it at the time). I can only imagine what twitter was like if this is SC. There's no doubt the fans were awful to him.

People need to stop grouping all fans together because some were abusive towards him, I'd go so far as to say that a very slim minority did that.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

People need to stop grouping all fans together because some were abusive towards him, I'd go so far as to say that a very slim minority did that.

And there are groups of the exact same people at every club with just a different colour shirt on

 

[Indisguise]

Why is it hogwash?
Why did he happily sign a new contract less than a year ago?

If these comments had come because contract negotiations had broken down, or after we'd just won't the double, then maybe you'd have a point.

He clearly had potential before Poch stabilised the Club and gave him some proper direction. Of course Poch has been a factor but it's not Poch who's on the pitch is it?

Perhaps he was being told that the Club were really going to go for it a year ago and now he feels betrayed because nothing's happening.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

When a player is part of a well established squad that's not had too many ins and outs, then goes out to the media and says we need signings to compete - why has no-one asked him who's not up to scratch?

What he's basically saying is at least one or two of this team aren't good enough - way to keep the team spirit up.

On the same level, he's suggesting that he needs to move away for success - does that mean if a player doesn't want to move they aren't as high an achiever as him? Eriksen, Lloris, Kane, Dele, Wanyama, Toby - all have the potential to be in a table topping side, yet he suggests they are less keen than him? Less self aware? Less educated as to where the club is heading? Less of a footballer if they're happy to earn their wages, rather than get them by default? How insulting is that??

Short sighted, Danny, very short sighted - can't admit he was a stinker when he was younger and without Poch he'd probably still be average as hell, can't see the future for the piles of potential money he will get regardless of the effort.

Decision time, Ant Man. Either you've just slagged off all of your team mates or you were trying to gee them up.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

He clearly had potential before Poch stabilised the Club and gave him some proper direction. Of course Poch has been a factor but it's not Poch who's on the pitch is it?

Perhaps he was being told that the Club were really going to go for it a year ago and now he feels betrayed because nothing's happening.

Clyne, Shaw, Rose, Walker, Trippier, Davies. Thats 6 full backs that when Poch got hold of them became 10x the player they were before he coached them

 

[Ossie85]

How fucking frustrating must it be for Rose? He's been at the Club since he was 16 and was put through the mill by our so called "fans" when he wasn't an instant success despite having to suffer, what was it, 7 or 8 managers along the way? Despite the upheaval and the merry go round he's worked hard and become a fantastic player. And before anyone jumps up and down about him being the player he is just because of Poch that's just Hogwash. So why should he stand back, choke it all back and doth his cap at the management and be expected to thank them for paying him less than he's worth and for their lack of ambition. Let's face it, the team has upheld its end of the bargain by succeeding beyond expectations, isn't about time that management fulfilled some of theirs?

I completely agree that he hasn't gone about things in an ideal matter, but it doesn't make his concerns any less valid.

He is. He was shit before that.
Harry Kane has a similar story, and I don't see him doing what Rose did. Not remotely close

The concern about incomings is valid. What's not valid is how he talked about his teammates, and that phrase about googling players, when he was absolutely no one when we signed him.
So while the concern about incomings and wage is valid, he spouts a lot more shit than that. To the worst paper there is. And days before we start the season.
And even if ALL that he said was true, you don't go to the media to say it. Any person with a gram of brain knows that. So what he did was premeditated
It's indefensible by any aspect what he did.
I would beat the shit out of him if I was one of the players

 

[Indisguise]

He is. He was shit before that.
Harry Kane has a similar story, and I don't see him doing what Rose did. Not remotely close

The concern about incomings is valid. What's not valid is how he talked about his teammates, and that phrase about googling players, when he was absolutely no one when we signed him.
So while the concern about incomings and wage is valid, he spouts a lot more shit than that. To the worst paper there is. And days before we start the season.
And even if ALL that he said was true, you don't go to the media to say it. Any person with a gram of brain knows that. So what he did was premeditated
It's indefensible by any aspect what he did.

He most certainly wasn't shit before that. You're just rewriting history because it suits you. Yes, he has come on really well with Poch but the potential was always there.

 

[Gb160]

He clearly had potential before Poch stabilised the Club and gave him some proper direction. Of course Poch has been a factor but it's not Poch who's on the pitch is it?

Perhaps he was being told that the Club were really going to go for it a year ago and now he feels betrayed because nothing's happening.

It was also Danny on the pitch when he was pretty rubbish then wasn't it?
Why would you suppose he's been made false promises? What exactly are you basing that on?

 

[alfie103]

He most certainly wasn't shit before that. You're just rewriting history because it suits you. Yes, he has come on really well with Poch but the potential was always there.

He wasn't a shit player but he was decent at best. Pochettino has transformed him.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

He wasn't a shit player but he was decent at best. Pochettino has transformed him.

He went missing, frequently, because he wanted to bomb on but our formation needed defenders out on the flanks that we didn't have. I can clearly recall getting mad-pissed off watching him lose the ball high up the pitch and, instead of moving back like a train, as he does now, his shoulders dropped and he jogged back as the oppo sent a high ball into the space where he should've been. It happened regularly and it used to drive me nuts - i expect you can find me saying the same back then too, but it was a fact.

A combination of Poch's attitude and methods, our formation and the players around him have bought the best out, so now he wants to throw all of that away and start over? Really?

 

[Indisguise]

It was also Danny on the pitch when he was pretty rubbish then wasn't it?
Why would you suppose he's been made false promises? What exactly are you basing that on?

By that logic you're saying that it must be Poch's fault whenever a player doesn't play well.

 

[Ossie85]

He most certainly wasn't shit before that. You're just rewriting history because it suits you. Yes, he has come on really well with Poch but the potential was always there.

He was. There's a reason he received abuse.
You are the one rewriting history. There's a reason we wanted him replaced, and there's a reason we brought Ben Davies. He stepped up, but Davies was brought to be first choice. And 90% of the people here thought the same.
Do I need to search the thread?

 

[Indisguise]

He was. There's a reason he received abuse.
You are the one rewriting history. There's a reason we wanted him replaced, and there's a reason we brought Ben Davies. He stepped up, but Davies was brought to be first choice. And 90% of the people here thought the same.
Do I need to search the thread?

Then 90% of people were ultimately wrong weren't they.