arshavin will only bring 10 goals a season

[si_yidarmy]

Bent didn't lose form, he simply wasn't played.

and there isn't a cat in hell's chance that we won't buy another striker as back up for Bent, if not this window, then definitely Jan.

we should really aggitate west ham and raid them for ashton!

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I think Arshavin will get more than 10 goals. He has never played in a team with the quality we now have either. With Modric and Jenas behind him and Dos Santos, Bale, Bentley and Lennon as wide options he will get a lot of the ball in attacking positions and he has easily enough quality to finish as well as providing for Bent. Bent could end up top scorer in the league as well.

 

[nowayjose]

Ten goals might even be optimistic since he only has reached that number of goals once in his career in russia. So he wont be like for like with Keane in that aspect. But I guess his game has other sides that might make up for it.

 

[PT]

I think Arshavin will get more than 10 goals. He has never played in a team with the quality we now have either. With Modric and Jenas behind him and Dos Santos, Bale, Bentley and Lennon as wide options he will get a lot of the ball in attacking positions and he has easily enough quality to finish as well as providing for Bent. Bent could end up top scorer in the league as well.

Good point. This is one of the reasons I guess Arshavin is coming. He will look at his own learning curve and believe he can further himself in our colours.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Ten goals might even be optimistic since he only has reached that number of goals once in his career in russia. So he wont be like for like with Keane in that aspect. But I guess his game has other sides that might make up for it.

Yes true, but he played a lot from the left at Zenit, I expect him more upfront for us. Also playing with better players makes a big difference, especially creative players like we have and the style of football we will play. Take Torres as an example, playing for Atletico in 6 seasons his highest tally was 21 in all competitions last year at Liverpool he scored 33. I'm not saying Arshavin will score 25 goals, but he will get chances to score and I expect him to get more than 10 in our side.

 

[Mr-T]

No I was thinking of someone just a little better than that.

Most people would think Arshavin is better than Mido...

 

[nowayjose]

Yes true, but he played a lot from the left at Zenit, I expect him more upfront for us. Also playing with better players makes a big difference, especially creative players like we have and the style of football we will play. Take Torres as an example, playing for Atletico in 6 seasons his highest tally was 21 in all competitions last year at Liverpool he scored 33. I'm not saying Arshavin will score 25 goals, but he will get chances to score and I expect him to get more than 10 in our side.

I agree mostly, I thought about him playing a lot in midfield after I had posted.. Depending on formations he will probably be put in positions and he wil get a decent amount of goals. But of course the point about him playing with better players works the other way around aswell, his opponents will be alot more acomplished in the premier league compared to russia. Overall i would be excited to see him in the team though, as long as people do not expect him to score 20+ goals it should be all good.

 

[Rumbaldo]

i think he will score less than 10 but that doesn't mean he wont be a success our midfield will be scoring alot more goals this season and if arshavin does join i fully expect he will be getting alot of those assists. but i look forward to being proven wrong.
A change of scenery maybe what he needs as a catalyst to improve that aspect of his game.

 

[DerrySpur]

I have read many ITKs/media reports recently saying we will let berba go but only when we seal the arshavin deal.As the days go by this is beginning to look as if it's true. If this is the case i would be worried, no doubt arshavin is a class act but he is not an out and out goalscorer like berba. I would have initially thought arshavin would be the replacement for keane.

If berba goes and arshavin comes in (which looks likely) then i still believe we need another out and out striker to ultimately replace berba and time is running out (we do not want another rasiak buy on deadline day). Even if this new signing is a back-up for our new found hero darren bent, as i believe we will play a 4-5-1 system this season ruling out the need for 3/4 out and out strikers. With the amount of games we will hopefully play this season, darren bent will not be able to play every game, esp if he is going to be played as a lone striker. Also there has to be cover for injury in this position.

Defence- happy if we get corluka
Midfield- most creativity we have had in years, therefore not overly worried about DM signing as many others on here (modric is more competitive and tough than most think)
Forwards- IF berba goes - arshavin plus another goalscoring striker ala diego milito
IF berba stays, then happy enough with arshavin as the keane replacement

ROLL ON SATURDAY

 

[si_yidarmy]

whos to say santos wont get more than ten?

Cannot believe the arrogance of half of you, thinking you know your strikers better than any manager or scout.

Any striker can score as many goals as they want, depending on defence they face etc. It is down to thier own personal view on a game. I am pritty sure with our creative midfield, and the likes of bent and santos linking, arshavin will have every chance of scoring more than 10.

In regards to berba only going if we have a definate replacement, there should be no other allternative. Pompey did the same thing with Defoe/Benjani. It works well financially too. We would be stupid to risk loosing ONE of our best players, and find out that our potential replacement falls through or fails a medical etc. Its common sense.

Everyone thought Postiga was going to be our saviour but he wasnt. This time we are slating arshavin before he has even set foot on english turf. His abilty is outstanding, we have seen in. There is a reason why RAMOS wants him, and a reason why St Petersberg have tried to block, we did the same with Carrick and more recently keane and berbatov. There is always a reason!

 

[Annabel]

Hmm, assuming we sign Arshavin... I'm not too worried if he 'only' gets 10.
With the lovely one touch fast paced skillful footy we're playing now I think a lot of our goals will come from midfield...


I'd estimate:
Arshavin 10 (alrighty)
Modric 6
Jenas 6
Dos santos 10
Bentley 8
Hudd 4
Bent 14
Bale 5
Lennon 5
Ohara 3

That's, uh, 71 goals.

Now if we conceed say, ooh let's be optimistic, 12 goals less than last year... that would be 71 for & 49 against.

That would be enough for 5th or 6th without really trying!

If you think I'm being too optimistic for our midfielders - remember even Kaboul got 4 for us last year!

 

[si_yidarmy]

well if arshavin does join i would back him to become the penalty taker

 

[doubledecker]

whos to say santos wont get more than ten?

Cannot believe the arrogance of half of you, thinking you know your strikers better than any manager or scout.

Any striker can score as many goals as they want, depending on defence they face etc. It is down to thier own personal view on a game. I am pritty sure with our creative midfield, and the likes of bent and santos linking, arshavin will have every chance of scoring more than 10.

In regards to berba only going if we have a definate replacement, there should be no other allternative. Pompey did the same thing with Defoe/Benjani. It works well financially too. We would be stupid to risk loosing ONE of our best players, and find out that our potential replacement falls through or fails a medical etc. Its common sense.

Everyone thought Postiga was going to be our saviour but he wasnt. This time we are slating arshavin before he has even set foot on english turf. His abilty is outstanding, we have seen in. There is a reason why RAMOS wants him, and a reason why St Petersberg have tried to block, we did the same with Carrick and more recently keane and berbatov. There is always a reason!

Nobody is slating Arshavin. If you actually read the thread the point is not that he should not be signed. The point is that as well as Arshavin we need a goalscorer ( which Arshavin for all his qualities is not )to replace the 3 we have lost and as an alternative to Bent.

 

[si_yidarmy]

Nobody is slating Arshavin. If you actually read the thread the point is not that he should not be signed. The point is that as well as Arshavin we need a goalscorer ( which Arshavin for all his qualities is not )to replace the 3 we have lost and as an alternative to Bent.

how do you know he would not work in the PL? We could say all that above about berba before he came, in fact about any striker surely? Not having a go just merely backing an opinion

 

[eViL]

FFS - Whether he's been in form or not Bent has ALWAYS scored goals in the Premier League when provided with service.

Some people are missing the fact we were SHIT in the League last season and Bent still banged in a few.

STOP PANICKING!

 

[Kendall]

we should really aggitate west ham and raid them for ashton!

Fat boy, bald headed ashton is not the answer

 

[Rumbaldo]

how do you know he would not work in the PL? We could say all that above about berba before he came, in fact about any striker surely? Not having a go just merely backing an opinion

people are basing their assumptions on the fact the most goals he has ever managed to score in 1 season is 10. so they are well within their rights to suggest he wont score more than 10.
Also no one has said he isn't going to work in the pl in fact him scoring 10 goals would mean he has equaled his best ever season (in goalscoring terms) which surely would make him a success?

As i said in my previous post i really hope he proves me wrong and bangs in 15, 20 hopefully 30+ goals (what can i say im an optimist:wink but to expect a player to perform better than he has ever performed before in a stronger league is setting the poor bloke up for a fall costing 100 squillion rubles is enough pressure.

 

[brakefluid]

OH FFS Roll on Saturday...........circles and more circles, we are just getting nowhere extremely fast.

To summarise all said above:

1. Arshavin is not an out and out striker....generally accepted
2. Bent is our main man....generally accepted too [shock, horror, considering some of the comments from last year
3. We need a back-up for Bent [And it shouldn't be Mido] generally accepted, but as usual, no idea who....
4. Midfield is going to contribute alot more goals this season....generally accepted


So all the above proves is that we are all right , phew can't believe I bothered to type of all that

 

[DC_Boy]

Nobody is slating Arshavin. If you actually read the thread the point is not that he should not be signed. The point is that as well as Arshavin we need a goalscorer ( which Arshavin for all his qualities is not )to replace the 3 we have lost and as an alternative to Bent.

agreed DD

relying on Bent alone would be a massive mistake

and a forward line led by AA & GDS in prem would be unsuccessful

 

[doubledecker]

agreed DD

relying on Bent alone would be a massive mistake

and a forward line led by AA & GDS in prem would be unsuccessful

Thanks DC Boy. My views and yours are the same. Some people I think just read the thread titles and not what is written.