Arsenal

[Rogmeister]

Surprisingly most of the arsenal fans are laughing at arteta as much as we are

All or Nothing - Mikel Arteta ( and Arsenal ) - Amazon Prime

Must be weird for him to have to give these speeches, knowing it is being recorded for everyone to see...have sympathy there. Most managers would be put off by that.

arsenal-mania.com

 

[slartibartfast]

They didn't mess about on the production costs for the arse doco, I think they might have used the Star Wars composer John Williams for the score.
Dramatic, I can't wait to see what music they use when they play us in the final episode, I'm guessing Bright eyes from Watership down with Arteta looking slightly tearful and throwing his water bottle around the changing rooms...

 

[Hotspur_Hero]

Hard to know whether this is a parody or not as there's so much shite out there.

However, this is when you realise these twitter personas have zero understanding of what data represents in football.

Just cause your pass accuracy is high doesn't make you a decisive or creative player.
I'm pretty sure that Vieira's high pass accuracy is reliant on 2 factors.

1. He played for Porto who dominate possession and have quality in that league.
2. He came on late in games where there is generally more space and it's easier to pass the ball as the opposition's pressing wears off.

At the risk of sounding like a know it all or arrogant, I have done several scouting courses and they always stress that you need to look around the context of all data.

Another one I often see is comparing CFs and one CF has 20+ goals and a high conversion success rate, therefore he is better than the others. But that player may have scored 8 penalties, which significantly skews the numbers. Instead, you have to focus on non-penalty goals and then compare the conversion rate from that, often that CF who seemed the best actually dropped down to 4th or 5th best. So he wasn't as prolific as he appeared.

I hate to defend deluded Arsenal fans or "advanced" metrics, but I think you (and other commenters) are missunderstanding the tweet. Basically the guy is saying that FV completes difficult passes that he statistically shouldn't at a high rate. FV's pass completion rate at (83%) is nothing to write home about, and as others have pointed out, that stat says nothing about how difficult the passes completed were. Pass completion says more about the player's position on the field and the style of the team they play for. The idea behind expected pass completion is that it takes into account the likelihood of completing the pass. (i.e. 83% >> 63%)). If the metric (comparing xPC vs PC) is actually useful, then really good passers would outperform their xPC/PC and poor passers would underperform their xPC/PC. It's the same line of logic as Son being a good finisher because his goal rate significantly exceeds his expected goal rate. Even if you do like these kinds of advanced metrics, these stats are useless out of context. I have no idea how other players stack up etc. I have no idea if this is a useful stat or not - I don't have strong feelings on these kinds of metrics.

 

[Tucker]

She don’t have to eat the chocolate! She can play with the toy inside!

 

[sly1]

I hate to defend deluded Arsenal fans or "advanced" metrics, but I think you (and other commenters) are missunderstanding the tweet. Basically the guy is saying that FV completes difficult passes that he statistically shouldn't at a high rate. FV's pass completion rate at (83%) is nothing to write home about, and as others have pointed out, that stat says nothing about how difficult the passes completed were. Pass completion says more about the player's position on the field and the style of the team they play for. The idea behind expected pass completion is that it takes into account the likelihood of completing the pass. (i.e. 83% >> 63%)). If the metric (comparing xPC vs PC) is actually useful, then really good passers would outperform their xPC/PC and poor passers would underperform their xPC/PC. It's the same line of logic as Son being a good finisher because his goal rate significantly exceeds his expected goal rate. Even if you do like these kinds of advanced metrics, these stats are useless out of context. I have no idea how other players stack up etc. I have no idea if this is a useful stat or not - I don't have strong feelings on these kinds of metrics.

Yes. This is correct. The real doubtful thing is whether xPC is a legitimate metric. It is hard enough to model xG, and I imagine that xPC is much harder again.

 

[easley91]

Didn't know that was a thing. Would love to watch that, got a mate who's a mad keen DH supporter. And anyone with a brain cell can't help but love Crouchino. Is it still on Prime?

Discovery+. It's really interesting seeing it from a non league perspective.

 

[cider spurs]

He strikes me as a number 2, a Bryan Kidd. He doesn't have the charisma to be a top manager imo.

Full stop. End post.

 

[Darth Vega]

@DodgyLasagne Would remove that before this thread gets locked again

 

[cwy21]

Can we just not mention it at all on here, especially with a name? The staff has been very clear

 

[Yiddo100]

@DodgyLasagne we need this thread for for when they get smashed by Palace so best to delete

 

[DodgyLasagne]

Sorry I’m not usually in this thread didn’t realize the protocol, deleted

 

[cider spurs]

My bets are mounting up that we're going to finish above them.

Kerfeckinching.

 

[mabolsa_ritchey]

This thread did well to last an hour before the inevitable lock again. Once again I bid you good day old friend.

 

[Yiddo100]

He didn’t know and has deleted swiftly, let’s move on

 

[dvdhopeful]

A thread on SC sensibly self-modded? Wtf, someone hand A&C his pipe and slippers.

 

[hugrr]

Fucking hell. He started his own applause.

And that’s his team talk? “We’ve lost three games on the bounce, but it’s been the best week of my career cause I’ve got a wife and three kids.”

The look on Aubameyang’s face says it all.

Reminds me of this classic leadership speech

 

[spurs mental]

They're playing Sevilla on Saturday.

Agent Coco, you know what to do.

 

[aliyid]

They're playing Sevilla on Saturday.

Agent Coco, you know what to do.

I hope he takes his Puskas award as they helped play a part

 

[Oscar22]

What a baffling speech, and that’s when he knew he was being filmed… I didn’t watch Arsenal Vs Norwich but I take it the player interviews afterwards referred to that rabble rousing did they?

“Yeah you know we’ve lost three on the bounce… and coming here today we knew we were playing the team that literally EVERYONE beats. We knew that Norwich have been so bad that the other day they played a training game and both sides lost… so the pressure was on.

Luckily we had this plucky little Lego fella turn up today and he told us about when he had surgery when he was two… and he was about to say something about the emergency services but erm… well he cut that short to mention he’s married, and that apparently he used to put out cones out for Man City, well err… they stopped letting him do the cones and that made him… erm… it made him sad…

erm… anyway… so he’s married now… and he seemed pretty chuffed with that if I’m honest, and he drew a little box… like a table thing… and it had a squiggle… and if I’m honest I wasn’t entirely sure what it was for because I was distracted by Ben Whites earrings… but when the manager walked out clapping himself I figured he was thinking about cones… and err his wife… so him having surgery when he was two.. that was erm… that was when I knew we could beat Norwich you see”

 

[Ray Ray]

The speech was weird in itself, but the diagrams/graphs for his family and feelings was just not necessary. Took him ages to write it which killed the flow.

Just strange.