Arsenal

[spurs mental]

Lol gooners crying about Kane mainly, don’t remember him screaming like that when tackled though...? ?‍

Gooners crying about diving but they had Pires and Reyes play for them in the last 20 years.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It makes it worse but I have always hated people pretending to be injured or screaming in pain. Make it clear you have been fouled then move on.

I've said for a while, anyone who goes down claiming to be injured & causing the game to be halted, should be made to stay off for 5 minutes.

That way, if the injury is genuine, it allows for treatment & for the player to ascertain whether he's able to carry on. And if it's not genuine, tough shit, you're off the pitch for 5 minutes for being a cheating **** & your team suffers as a result.

Would soon put a stop to the acting, in my opinion.

 

[Japhet]

The reality is sometimes players have to go down when they are fouled or they will not get the free kick or penalty. But there is no reason to scream in pain or pretend you're hurt.

So, what's the difference between that and simulation? They're pretending the contact is heavier than it is.

 

[dontcallme]

So, what's the difference between that and simulation? They're pretending the contact is heavier than it is.

Not sure I can be bothered to explain it.

 

[Japhet]

Not sure I can be bothered to explain it.

I wasn't asking actually, but thanks for your time anyway.

 

[dontcallme]

I wasn't asking actually, but thanks for your time anyway.

If you don’t understand that a foul is a foul regardless of if the contact is hard enough to put a guy onto the floor then that’s your problem.

 

[Japhet]

If you don’t understand that a foul is a foul regardless of if the contact is hard enough to put a guy onto the floor then that’s your problem.

I do understand what a foul is just like I understand what exaggerating minimal contact to con the Ref is.

 

[spursfan77]

Utter pricks. Twitter needs to shut these people down

 

[philll]

 

[spurs mental]

I've not looked but I'd put my house on there being comments such as

Another one for the trophy cabinet
What have they won in that time
Loads of room for that money in their trophy cabinet.

 

[Danny1]

Lacazette is the perfect player for Arsenal as the way he acts is exactly how the whole club & fan base act. I remember him scoring against us, the good goal top corner, and he walked off like a dog with two dicks. The fact is that he is a distinctly average footballer who has had a very average career so he shouldn't have this level of arrogance that he seems to have. Ok, you scored a good goal, enjoy it, but don't walk away like you are Thierry Henry in his prime.

As for Arteta, I heard a discussion on Talksport and the headline point was "Are there 3 managers in the league better than Arteta?". I first thought it was a joke discussion as I could think of 16 better managers, but they were deadly serious. So far he has shown to be a very average, tiki taka type manager who has no plan B. If Scott Parker was a young foreign manager instead of an English one I wonder if his stock wouldbe higher as I've witnessed Fulham play much better football than Arsenal have, on a fraction of their budget.

 

[Serpico]

Aye, if you haven't cracked their shin-pads clean in half you haven't done it properly.

You used to be able to put a winger into the stands and the ref would tell you "good tackle." Or barge into the keeper like a steam train if he had the ball in his hands and your team-mates would be celebrating the goal while you tried to remove your shoulder from his gaping chest wound without getting too much blood on your shirt.

I miss those days.

very funny and a little exaggerated. Times past can stay in the past.
Play the ball-simple-regardless what the player with the ball is choosing to do. The ref can not complain if the ball is played cleanly without contact on the player. Reguilon does it all the time, Lamella has his moments. If you believe a player needs to go all guns blazing to win a tackle, then your wrong. Just watch and win the ball and time it right . This comes with practice which modern players will not waste their precious time trying. A wet pitch gives you an extra yard on the tackle which defenders should be in there element.

 

[Serpico]

Fair enough, but the merest touch on an opponent before the ball is going to be a penalty. As Shaun Dyche said, he can't understand why a touch on the shoulder causes a players legs to buckle and collapse under them. Defenders are at a disadvantage all day long, and although it probably leads to more goals which is what fans want, I don't think most would want to see games decided by who is the best cheat. I certainly don't.

Don't touch the opponent . Watch the ball and play the ball cleanly-I don't believe its difficult. How many times do players fly in without processing the situation. The slight touch is normally brought on by the player wanting the foul and that needs to be punished. A defender can defend with tackling in their skill set, they just need to practice a little more.

 

[dudu]

That screaming was Lacazette. Screamed like a little girl, then got up 30 seconds later

He is one of, if not the biggest diver in the prem. Arsenal are just too shit for anyone to care

 

[pffft]

very funny and a little exaggerated. Times past can stay in the past.
Play the ball-simple-regardless what the player with the ball is choosing to do. The ref can not complain if the ball is played cleanly without contact on the player. Reguilon does it all the time, Lamella has his moments. If you believe a player needs to go all guns blazing to win a tackle, then your wrong. Just watch and win the ball and time it right . This comes with practice which modern players will not waste their precious time trying. A wet pitch gives you an extra yard on the tackle which defenders should be in there element.

Yeah, I obviously wasn't being entirely serious! My point is that football is a contact sport but sometimes it seems that contact of any kind is being punished, which is just wrong. An over-the-ball studs-up leg-breaker is a foul, a gentle touch on the arm while two players are running together isn't.

 

[soflapaul]

Don't touch the opponent . Watch the ball and play the ball cleanly-I don't believe its difficult. How many times do players fly in without processing the situation. The slight touch is normally brought on by the player wanting the foul and that needs to be punished. A defender can defend with tackling in their skill set, they just need to practice a little more.

You probably are a lightning quick type player if you don't believe it is difficult especially at the speed at which the modern game is played. The defenders should be allowed to defend with the full range of actions that are within the laws of the game. Sure practice helps but it may not be "a little more" and in some cases, it may never be enough. Does it make sense to handicap a defender against a quicker forward and expect him to outskill a Neymar or a Messi? That puts a premium on the beautiful tika taka but at the expense of the mental side of the game. As someone who grew up in the era pre shin pad splitting (we thought they were for wimps) and was the target of quite a few thugs, i appreciate that there should be no place in the game for that. (Ever see a coach try to stab an opposing player with a corner flag or a tire iron be brought out post game?) At the same time, being sent into the stands by a solid tackle causing a dispossession legally was something to be admired as it was an art form unto itself. As much as tika taka type play is enjoyable to watch, i don't want the sport to boil down to which club can afford the most expensive skill players which is what a "no contact" defending would ultimately lead to.

 

[TheRevolution]

I need that drug of them crashing out of Europe and getting pumped in the NLD in the space of a week, the meltdown would be glorious

 

[dudu]

He is one of, if not the biggest diver in the prem. Arsenal are just too shit for anyone to care

Here is one from last season Europa league - such an idiot pretending to be hurt a metre away from the ref.

Stephen Warnock labels Arsenal star Alexandre Lacazette as 'embarrasing'

Alexandre Lacazette pretended to have been headbutted to get a Vitoria player sent off on Thursday night, and Stephen Warnock has blasted the Arsenal ace.

tbrfootball.com

 

[Serpico]

You probably are a lightning quick type player if you don't believe it is difficult especially at the speed at which the modern game is played. The defenders should be allowed to defend with the full range of actions that are within the laws of the game. Sure practice helps but it may not be "a little more" and in some cases, it may never be enough. Does it make sense to handicap a defender against a quicker forward and expect him to outskill a Neymar or a Messi? That puts a premium on the beautiful tika taka but at the expense of the mental side of the game. As someone who grew up in the era pre shin pad splitting (we thought they were for wimps) and was the target of quite a few thugs, i appreciate that there should be no place in the game for that. (Ever see a coach try to stab an opposing player with a corner flag or a tire iron be brought out post game?) At the same time, being sent into the stands by a solid tackle causing a dispossession legally was something to be admired as it was an art form unto itself. As much as tika taka type play is enjoyable to watch, i don't want the sport to boil down to which club can afford the most expensive skill players which is what a "no contact" defending would ultimately lead to.

It really isn’t about speed- it’s timing. Once you commit, it needs to be spot on. This comes with practice. Players are either being discouraged with coaching or put off by being at a disadvantage with the way football is going. Toby Alderweireld can tackle.

 

[Shadydan]

Don't touch the opponent . Watch the ball and play the ball cleanly-I don't believe its difficult. How many times do players fly in without processing the situation. The slight touch is normally brought on by the player wanting the foul and that needs to be punished. A defender can defend with tackling in their skill set, they just need to practice a little more.

Practice lol

If professional footballers mistime tackles then that probably suggests that it is difficult.