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@Bobby__Lucky

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Yeh the diamond didn't work. Live and learn.

Yes but who would play a 442 diamond against a 343? I'm not claiming any superior knowledge but I think most people in football would either go like for like or go attacking 433, making the wing backs defend rather than outnumber our midfield positionally and then outnumber their midfield due to this.

I get you with the live and learn, but I think poch is better than this choice, it confuses me.
 

SPURSLIFE

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Really? So if Mike Ashley takes over that would improve things? The Golds?

What are you are saying is you want some Oil slaver oligarch to come in and use Spurs to white wash their crimes against humanity. At least have the guts to own that position ffs.
Who would want the Ashley's or the Golds what a stupid comparison. You need to take a look at yourself mate as you don't make a lot of sense.
 

Phomesy

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Yes but who would play a 442 diamond against a 343? I'm not claiming any superior knowledge but I think most people in football would either go like for like or go attacking 433, making the wing backs defend rather than outnumber our midfield positionally and then outnumber their midfield due to this.

I get you with the live and learn, but I think poch is better than this choice, it confuses me.

No I agree. At the start of this Match thread I noted we were playing a diamond with some dread. Poch is stubborn and when we took back the lead and some control he probably felt vindicated. That's Poch.
 

Phomesy

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Who would want the Ashley's or the Golds what a stupid comparison. You need to take a look at yourself mate as you don't make a lot of sense.

YOu didn't nominate who your preferred new owners are mate. Until you do I'd suggest calming your tone down a bit. It's easy to be outraged - positing actual workable solutions is trickier. (y)
 

Vwbottom

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Tactically wrong, and clearly shit off the pitch relegated our most inform centre back to the bench. When we went to three at the back why didn’t he come on? Honestly Pochseemed he was content with a draw and as a result the substitutions were to late and baffling. Will chalk it down to a bad day for Poch.
 

truebluespur

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I have a feeling there is perhaps still a little problem between Poch and Toby. Poch got a little ahead of himself, maybe even slightly arrogant, and thought, "...look how good we are, look at these rotations I can do now...". I think this had a bit to do with putting Toby in his place, even after all this time, he hasn't forgotten
 

THX2208

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YOu didn't nominate who your preferred new owners are mate. Until you do I'd suggest calming your tone down a bit. It's easy to be outraged - positing actual workable solutions is trickier. (y)

Have to agree but the poster is probably just a bit emotional after the loss as I'm sure we all where a little bit after the game today. Daniel Levy has completely revolutionised the infrastructure of our Football Club and he is by far the best operator in the game. Do people really want whats happened at Chelsea & City to happen to us? Its financial doping and I hope to God we are never part of it!

COYS
 

jolsnogross

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We should have played 4231 against their 343. That would've at least occupied their wing backs and left them with a pointless center half. Instead, their wing back murdered our full backs. I thought sissoko and Aurier were a joke first half. And Davies not much better. Our full backs should be targeted by opposition sides - they're a weak link and we often respond too slowly to that approach
 

UbeAstard

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His team mates lacked any real belief in Foyth's ability to do the job though didn't they? The defence was jittery and unsettled from the start. If that was obvious to most Spurs supporters watching the game what is Poch not seeing? Vertonghen is usually as cool as Paulo. Jan the man was a wreck today. As was Aurier who has previous but was enraged about something regarding Foyth. If Toby wasn't 100% what about Dier filling in at centre back? He's experienced and steady enough to have had the confidence of those around him.

I thought Spurs should win this game for all sorts of reasons prior to the kick off. Firstly we haven't won there for 8 years which is a disgrace in itself. Secondly Spurs have better players all over the pitch. Aubamayang and Lacazette are very good players but in every other position Spurs had better options. Poch invited the goons to attack Spurs down our right with his team selection. They did attack us, they got on top and Poch just watched. Vertonghen isn't fit, Foyth isn't ready and Aurier needs to be protected defensively to be effective going forward. It was obvious. It was shit. It was Poch's fault.

Nothing wrong with Foyth apart from young and inexperienced. He will learn, however I was shocked to see TA not in the team.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Still a bit stumped at not only how badly we played but how easily Arsenal out fought us today. Just didn't see it coming at all.

Anyway, it was a seriously tough week of fixtures and we got great results in the other games. Every cloud...
 
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werty

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Yes but who would play a 442 diamond against a 343? I'm not claiming any superior knowledge but I think most people in football would either go like for like or go attacking 433, making the wing backs defend rather than outnumber our midfield positionally and then outnumber their midfield due to this.

I get you with the live and learn, but I think poch is better than this choice, it confuses me.
We've often go with a diamond in big games through the years with him. It's worked some times (Man City (H) a few years ago, Liverpool (A) last year, Chelsea last week), but not more often than not. It's something he likes to do though so I don't see him stopping.
 

SpursDave88

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Still a bit stumped at not only how badly we played but how easily Arsenal out fought us today. Just didn't see it coming at all.

Still, it was a seriously tough week of fixtures and we got great results in the other games. Every cloud...


Worse that we didn't ring the changes at half time having gotten ourselves in front. Cowardly from the manager to be honest.
 

Sweetsman

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I have a feeling there is perhaps still a little problem between Poch and Toby. Poch got a little ahead of himself, maybe even slightly arrogant, and thought, "...look how good we are, look at these rotations I can do now...". I think this had a bit to do with putting Toby in his place, even after all this time, he hasn't forgotten
Or maybe, he has played a heck of a lot of minutes that included two sapping matches and his other senior centre back was coming back after a long lay off; that is, he didn't want to lose him before a run of very winnable games. We lost three points, that's all. At least, he's available to partner Foyth on Wednesday. Hopefully, KWP and Rose will be available.
 

Sweetsman

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Worse that we didn't ring the changes at half time having gotten ourselves in front. Cowardly from the manager to be honest.
There was no need to at half time. There's nothing cowardly about it, just wrong in hindsight. Gormless from you, to be honest.
 

yankspurs

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First day of hannukah and this shit had to lead off the 2nd worst day of my life. First this fucking game and now I find out the love of my life has a boyfriend when this heartbreak could have fucking been avoided had i said 5 fucking simple word 5 years ago, be there in 5 minutes. Im 26. Single. No one even remotely prospective. 100% all my fault but still. Thanks for leading this one off, lads. Appreciate the help, Spurs:(
 
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